| I see The Maximum Leader on 07:58 - Aug 14 with 2963 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 23:31 - Aug 13 by StokieBlue |
It was some other people near him that did it.
Classic TWTD.
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Let he who has never accidentally been in a wreath-laying ceremony for terrorists cast the first stone |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 08:44 - Aug 14 with 2920 views | ZedRodgers |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 07:41 - Aug 14 by GlasgowBlue |
So that’s clarity this. Corbyn Admits he was there for the commemoration of the Black September terrorists ( he corrects the date from 1991 in the Morning Star article to 1992), but claims he 'wasn't actually involved in the wreath laying, even though there are numerous photographs of him carrying the wreath,
What exactly is it you are defending? |
No.
He was visiting to pay respect to the 60 civillians who were killed by Israeli bombing in Tunis in 1985. This was attended by the Tunisian prime minister and various other political figures. It wasn’t some kind of fringe event. Paying tribute to terrorists who killed innocent people is not why he was there.
The morning star article says “wreaths were laid at the graves of those who died that day and on the graves of others killed by Mossad agents in Paris”. In no way does this suggest that the wreath Corbyn is pictured with was laid at the grave of a terrorist. From those photos it’s clear that the graves of the terrorists were behind Corbyn when he was laying the wreath for the victims of the bombing.
Would you not lay flowers at the grave of somebody that died that meant something to you in case there was a murderer buried in the same graveyard? |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 08:47 - Aug 14 with 2919 views | ElderGrizzly |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 23:38 - Aug 13 by Darth_Koont |
Wait a minute. You're a LibDem aren't you?
With all due respect, your party got exactly what it deserved in 2015 for selling out and failing in its role when in power! You helped sow the seed by propping up this whole, damaged mess. |
If you did your research rather than simply trot out the media spin, you’ll see we held them back if anything. But the being a junior partner in a relationship means you can only have minimal influence and pick your battles
Which party is propping up this Govt on Brexit again? |  | | |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:01 - Aug 14 with 2901 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 07:58 - Aug 14 by GlasgowBlue |
Let he who has never accidentally been in a wreath-laying ceremony for terrorists cast the first stone |
Look they're all at it here! Sorry forgot States don't do terrorism.....
......never knowingly uncontroversial! Let the down votes reign in......(Iraq, South Africa......etc ) |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:10 - Aug 14 with 2882 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 08:44 - Aug 14 by ZedRodgers |
No.
He was visiting to pay respect to the 60 civillians who were killed by Israeli bombing in Tunis in 1985. This was attended by the Tunisian prime minister and various other political figures. It wasn’t some kind of fringe event. Paying tribute to terrorists who killed innocent people is not why he was there.
The morning star article says “wreaths were laid at the graves of those who died that day and on the graves of others killed by Mossad agents in Paris”. In no way does this suggest that the wreath Corbyn is pictured with was laid at the grave of a terrorist. From those photos it’s clear that the graves of the terrorists were behind Corbyn when he was laying the wreath for the victims of the bombing.
Would you not lay flowers at the grave of somebody that died that meant something to you in case there was a murderer buried in the same graveyard? |
The 1992 refers to Atef Bseiso, a Black September operative assassinated in 1992 because of involvement in Munich. | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:14 - Aug 14 with 2886 views | ZedRodgers |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 08:47 - Aug 14 by ElderGrizzly |
If you did your research rather than simply trot out the media spin, you’ll see we held them back if anything. But the being a junior partner in a relationship means you can only have minimal influence and pick your battles
Which party is propping up this Govt on Brexit again? |
Voted with the government to cut 5000 nurses and spend 3m on 'reorganising' the NHS.
Voted with the government to close 550+ Sure Start centres.
Voted with the government to give a tax cut to millionaires and raise taxes of ordinary people.
Voted with the government to cut police by 15000.
Continuously voted for austerity policies which saw a drop of £1500 in wages and 1m young people unemployed.
Voted to increase VAT to 20% after spending the election campaigning in opposition to it.
Voted against the 'mansion tax' after Clegg had literally said "The Mansion Tax is right, it makes sense and the Liberal Democrats will continue to make the case for it. We're going to stick to our guns" before the election.
Abandoned constitutional reform promises.
Promised 'special advisers' should be funded by the party, not the tax-payer. Did nothing to act on this in gov, with Clegg spending the duration with 16 tax-payer funded 'special advisers' himself.
And obviously there's that tuition fee thing. But yes, you take the moral high ground over Brexit. That's a nice and easy one for you isn't it? | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:15 - Aug 14 with 2883 views | ZedRodgers |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:10 - Aug 14 by GlasgowBlue |
The 1992 refers to Atef Bseiso, a Black September operative assassinated in 1992 because of involvement in Munich. |
Is that a response to what I said? It didn't seem like it. | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:43 - Aug 14 with 2850 views | StokieBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 08:47 - Aug 14 by ElderGrizzly |
If you did your research rather than simply trot out the media spin, you’ll see we held them back if anything. But the being a junior partner in a relationship means you can only have minimal influence and pick your battles
Which party is propping up this Govt on Brexit again? |
I agree with that.
However need to be careful on the last bit given the two main Lib Dems didn't bother turning up for the closest of all brexit votes the other week.
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:51 - Aug 14 with 2838 views | StokieBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:01 - Aug 14 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Look they're all at it here! Sorry forgot States don't do terrorism.....
......never knowingly uncontroversial! Let the down votes reign in......(Iraq, South Africa......etc ) |
No down-vote from me, it's just a very silly postulated equivalence as you well know :).
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:56 - Aug 14 with 2836 views | Darth_Koont |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 07:41 - Aug 14 by GlasgowBlue |
So that’s clarity this. Corbyn Admits he was there for the commemoration of the Black September terrorists ( he corrects the date from 1991 in the Morning Star article to 1992), but claims he 'wasn't actually involved in the wreath laying, even though there are numerous photographs of him carrying the wreath,
What exactly is it you are defending? |
"Corbyn admits he was there for the commemoration of the Black September terrorists"
No, he didn't. Repeating it won't make it true just like me saying that "Cameron welcomed the man who funded the Munich Massacre to Number 10" is factually more truthful but doesn't actually represent the truth.
You do understand all this of course. |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:59 - Aug 14 with 2821 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:56 - Aug 14 by Darth_Koont |
"Corbyn admits he was there for the commemoration of the Black September terrorists"
No, he didn't. Repeating it won't make it true just like me saying that "Cameron welcomed the man who funded the Munich Massacre to Number 10" is factually more truthful but doesn't actually represent the truth.
You do understand all this of course. |
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/13/jeremy-corbyn-not-involved-muni
"Jeremy Corbyn has said he was present but not involved at a wreath-laying for individuals behind the group that carried out the Munich Olympic massacre, a partial admission that has led to a row with Israel’s prime minister". | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 10:02 - Aug 14 with 2819 views | ElderGrizzly |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:14 - Aug 14 by ZedRodgers |
Voted with the government to cut 5000 nurses and spend 3m on 'reorganising' the NHS.
Voted with the government to close 550+ Sure Start centres.
Voted with the government to give a tax cut to millionaires and raise taxes of ordinary people.
Voted with the government to cut police by 15000.
Continuously voted for austerity policies which saw a drop of £1500 in wages and 1m young people unemployed.
Voted to increase VAT to 20% after spending the election campaigning in opposition to it.
Voted against the 'mansion tax' after Clegg had literally said "The Mansion Tax is right, it makes sense and the Liberal Democrats will continue to make the case for it. We're going to stick to our guns" before the election.
Abandoned constitutional reform promises.
Promised 'special advisers' should be funded by the party, not the tax-payer. Did nothing to act on this in gov, with Clegg spending the duration with 16 tax-payer funded 'special advisers' himself.
And obviously there's that tuition fee thing. But yes, you take the moral high ground over Brexit. That's a nice and easy one for you isn't it? |
It's rather relevant and will overshadow those things in terms of damage to the country, even if they all were true.
Of course you leave out the increasing minimum tax threshold to £10k or other policies that hugely benefited the country and the lower/middle classes too.
I can hear you flicking through the Momentum handbook to find the next set of random but incorrect facts. How is Rachel?
You need to up your meme game to be full Corbyn surely? All this text won't resonate well. [Post edited 14 Aug 2018 10:06]
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 10:04 - Aug 14 with 2816 views | ElderGrizzly |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:43 - Aug 14 by StokieBlue |
I agree with that.
However need to be careful on the last bit given the two main Lib Dems didn't bother turning up for the closest of all brexit votes the other week.
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I know, that was pretty woeful. Still, we thought with Labour propping up the Tories so much it wasn't ever going to be that close.
Corbyn was running out of front benchers to sack if they didn't abstain so rather unexpected | | | |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 10:15 - Aug 14 with 2786 views | Darth_Koont |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 08:47 - Aug 14 by ElderGrizzly |
If you did your research rather than simply trot out the media spin, you’ll see we held them back if anything. But the being a junior partner in a relationship means you can only have minimal influence and pick your battles
Which party is propping up this Govt on Brexit again? |
Holding them back? Hmmm. I think you could have at least dug your heels in a few times. For instance, allowing a necessary voting reform to be pitched to the public under the purposefully awkward and unsatisfying AV format was an enormous mistake.
You had your chance (on this and in other areas) and you blew it through a lack of principles. Your tactic was patently to do what lowhouse is always preaching about which is show you can be trusted by conservatives and the media and then somehow become a stronger party. But it doesn't work like that - it reeks of weakness. | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 10:31 - Aug 14 with 2764 views | ZedRodgers |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 10:02 - Aug 14 by ElderGrizzly |
It's rather relevant and will overshadow those things in terms of damage to the country, even if they all were true.
Of course you leave out the increasing minimum tax threshold to £10k or other policies that hugely benefited the country and the lower/middle classes too.
I can hear you flicking through the Momentum handbook to find the next set of random but incorrect facts. How is Rachel?
You need to up your meme game to be full Corbyn surely? All this text won't resonate well. [Post edited 14 Aug 2018 10:06]
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Incorrect facts? Rachel who?
If you think the mistakes made by the Lib Dems are some kind of Momentum fabrication or are out-weighted by the good things they done in coalition gov then you really are in the minority (even for a Lib Dem). | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 10:41 - Aug 14 with 2736 views | ZedRodgers |
What exactly are you having difficulty understanding here?
I see you're happy to ignore the points being put to you while you uncritically regurgitate the "he was present" rhetoric. I'll try again one last time:
He was visiting to pay respect to the 60 civillians who were killed by Israeli bombing in Tunis in 1985. This was attended by the Tunisian prime minister and various other political figures. It wasn’t some kind of fringe event. Paying tribute to terrorists who killed innocent people is not why he was there.
The morning star article says “wreaths were laid at the graves of those who died that day and on the graves of others killed by Mossad agents in Paris”. In no way does this suggest that the wreath Corbyn is pictured with was laid at the grave of a terrorist. From those photos it’s clear that the graves of the terrorists were behind Corbyn when he was laying the wreath for the victims of the bombing.
Would you not lay flowers at the grave of somebody that died that meant something to you in case there was a murderer buried in the same graveyard? | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 10:43 - Aug 14 with 2733 views | ElderGrizzly |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 10:31 - Aug 14 by ZedRodgers |
Incorrect facts? Rachel who?
If you think the mistakes made by the Lib Dems are some kind of Momentum fabrication or are out-weighted by the good things they done in coalition gov then you really are in the minority (even for a Lib Dem). |
Ah so you've admitted you are Momentum then. Excellent.
I think i'd be in the majority to say the damage that will be done by Brexit and an 'opposition' that is supporting it will far outweigh anything we have apparently done. It will certainly ensure the current leadership of the HMO will stay exactly that. Opposition.
Poor Zed too. Maybe we can book him for a guest slot on here
https://www.mandy.com/actor/profile/zed-rodgers-1 | | | |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 10:49 - Aug 14 with 2722 views | Darth_Koont |
Again with the willful and disingenuous inaccuracy.
Even if he himself actually put a wreath on the grave of senior PLO officials, the implied link to somehow commemorating and honouring the Munich massacre doesn't hold up to any serious scrutiny.
I've given the example that took me 5 minutes to make up re: Cameron meeting Abbas at Number 10 but I wouldn't seriously make that connection in real terms.
"Cameron welcomes man who funded Munich massacre to Number 10" Can you see the problem here? It's an utterly disingenuous implication. | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 11:05 - Aug 14 with 2689 views | BrixtonBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 00:12 - Aug 14 by BrixtonBlue |
Corbyn has also condemned Russian military policy.
So yeah, it is almost as if people see what they want depending on what they believe in! |
Down arrowing a fact that I have already proven to you lowhouse? No real surprise I guess. |  |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 11:07 - Aug 14 with 2681 views | imsureazzure |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 08:44 - Aug 14 by ZedRodgers |
No.
He was visiting to pay respect to the 60 civillians who were killed by Israeli bombing in Tunis in 1985. This was attended by the Tunisian prime minister and various other political figures. It wasn’t some kind of fringe event. Paying tribute to terrorists who killed innocent people is not why he was there.
The morning star article says “wreaths were laid at the graves of those who died that day and on the graves of others killed by Mossad agents in Paris”. In no way does this suggest that the wreath Corbyn is pictured with was laid at the grave of a terrorist. From those photos it’s clear that the graves of the terrorists were behind Corbyn when he was laying the wreath for the victims of the bombing.
Would you not lay flowers at the grave of somebody that died that meant something to you in case there was a murderer buried in the same graveyard? |
You will get the push as the momentum plant, you really are cr@p at this. |  | | |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 11:08 - Aug 14 with 2677 views | BrixtonBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 00:45 - Aug 14 by BrixtonBlue |
Game, set and match I feel. |
A downarrow SB, but no comment or link to disprove it?
You appear to have been hoisted by your own petard! | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 11:09 - Aug 14 with 2673 views | ZedRodgers |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 10:43 - Aug 14 by ElderGrizzly |
Ah so you've admitted you are Momentum then. Excellent.
I think i'd be in the majority to say the damage that will be done by Brexit and an 'opposition' that is supporting it will far outweigh anything we have apparently done. It will certainly ensure the current leadership of the HMO will stay exactly that. Opposition.
Poor Zed too. Maybe we can book him for a guest slot on here
https://www.mandy.com/actor/profile/zed-rodgers-1 |
For the record, no I'm not. What did I say that was an admission? That's more unclear than Corbyn's 'admission' that he laid a wreath for terrorists.
Thanks for sharing my Mandy profile. If you do want to book me for anything, I specialise in short films / tv but also have a background in theatre.
My new book is available on Amazon if you're so interested in my life away from ITFC:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gromes-Top-Hat-Day/dp/1999582772 | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 11:11 - Aug 14 with 2659 views | ZedRodgers |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 11:07 - Aug 14 by imsureazzure |
You will get the push as the momentum plant, you really are cr@p at this. |
Have Momentum members been planted on TWTD before have they?
I didn't realise they led such a thorough operation. | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 11:12 - Aug 14 with 2657 views | BrixtonBlue |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 09:10 - Aug 14 by GlasgowBlue |
The 1992 refers to Atef Bseiso, a Black September operative assassinated in 1992 because of involvement in Munich. |
This isn't going well for you Glassers, Zed has utterly destroyed you.
There is no evidence of Corbyn laying a wreath to commemorate terrorists, but I'm sure you'll add it to your 'no smoke without fire' list of lies.
I was in Brixton at the time of the Brixton riots and I have a TV that I have no receipt for. In your world I'd be locked up now. | |
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| I see The Maximum Leader on 11:13 - Aug 14 with 2651 views | Darth_Koont |
| I see The Maximum Leader on 11:07 - Aug 14 by imsureazzure |
You will get the push as the momentum plant, you really are cr@p at this. |
He's actually a lot better than most. Posters or Momentum plants.
People just don't like what he's saying. | |
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