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Hurst on Dozzell.... 14:36 - Sep 13 with 10267 views

Hurst talking about Dozzell. Says he's not in contention for first team at this stage but is improving.

"I want to be clear that I think he's a very, very good player. But I think he's been held up on a pedestal that isn't quite right given the number of games he's played."
— Andy Warren (@AndyWarren_) September 13, 2018

Very well said. When he starts ripping it up for the U23’s give him his chance...

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:38 - Sep 13 with 4305 views

skyblue23

I have to agree with what Hurst has said there. I also think Dozzell could be a very good player but I'm not quite sure why he is talked about as if he's our saviour. I hope one day he is..

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:38 - Sep 13 with 4308 views

ITFC_Forever

He's spot on.

Andre has played half a dozen games or so, not quite sure why some fans seem to think he's going to be the solution to everything.

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:40 - Sep 13 with 4278 views

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:41 - Sep 13 with 4258 views

FrimleyBlue

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:38 - Sep 13 by ITFC_Forever
He's spot on. Andre has played half a dozen games or so, not quite sure why some fans seem to think he's going to be the solution to everything.

No one has said he's a solution, but there is no reason why he can't be part of the squad and come on with 15 to go.

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:42 - Sep 13 with 4247 views

BlueBadger

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:41 - Sep 13 by FrimleyBlue
No one has said he's a solution, but there is no reason why he can't be part of the squad and come on with 15 to go.

...if you ignore the nasty long-term injury which the club's experts have said he needs more rehabilitation on.

[Post edited 13 Sep 2018 15:46]

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:43 - Sep 13 with 4235 views

JakeITFC

I’d ask why Dozzell has to rip it up for the U23s but Chalobah and Edun are deemed to be ready to start for our first team.

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:44 - Sep 13 with 4209 views

FrimleyBlue

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:42 - Sep 13 by BlueBadger
...if you ignore the nasty long-term injury which the club's experts have said he needs more rehabilitation on. [Post edited 13 Sep 2018 15:46]

So you missed the bit just now when he said that's not what's stopping him.......

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TheTrueBlue1878

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:43 - Sep 13 by JakeITFC
I’d ask why Dozzell has to rip it up for the U23s but Chalobah and Edun are deemed to be ready to start for our first team.

Add Graham.

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Would you be happy with Paul Lambert?

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:45 - Sep 13 with 4195 views

FrimleyBlue

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:43 - Sep 13 by JakeITFC
I’d ask why Dozzell has to rip it up for the U23s but Chalobah and Edun are deemed to be ready to start for our first team.

Coz they come from prem cubs innit

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:45 - Sep 13 with 4204 views

skyblue23

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:41 - Sep 13 by FrimleyBlue
No one has said he's a solution, but there is no reason why he can't be part of the squad and come on with 15 to go.

It depends on the game and how it's playing out. Hurst isn't going to put him on the bench and guarantee him 15 minutes every game to keep the fans happy. If he believes other players are in front of him fitness wise or football wise he is going to pick the player he believes will benefit the team. I think people are too involved in the Dozzell name rather than the current ability/fitness.

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:45 - Sep 13 with 4202 views

ITFCBlues

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:43 - Sep 13 by JakeITFC
I’d ask why Dozzell has to rip it up for the U23s but Chalobah and Edun are deemed to be ready to start for our first team.

Maybe he feels they’re better players than Dozzell?

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Has our squad been improved this summer?

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:49 - Sep 13 with 4140 views

FrimleyBlue

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:45 - Sep 13 by ITFCBlues
Maybe he feels they’re better players than Dozzell?

Both who won't be here next season.

So if we're rebuilding, why not rebuild with your own players..........

Granted, if Dozzell aint fit enough for 90 minutes fine. But get him involved.

Otherwise, next summer we lose all our midfield and back ups. and the process starts again.

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:51 - Sep 13 with 4116 views

skyblue23

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:49 - Sep 13 by FrimleyBlue
Both who won't be here next season. So if we're rebuilding, why not rebuild with your own players.......... Granted, if Dozzell aint fit enough for 90 minutes fine. But get him involved. Otherwise, next summer we lose all our midfield and back ups. and the process starts again.

But Hurst needs to win games this season, especially now. So why would he pick a player he feels isn't as good as Edun or Chalobah ready for next season when he needs a win now?

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:53 - Sep 13 with 4104 views

SpruceMoose

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:49 - Sep 13 by FrimleyBlue
Both who won't be here next season. So if we're rebuilding, why not rebuild with your own players.......... Granted, if Dozzell aint fit enough for 90 minutes fine. But get him involved. Otherwise, next summer we lose all our midfield and back ups. and the process starts again.

I have never known anyone to post on here, until you came along, to seize upon anything remotely negative with such tumultuous joy.

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:53 - Sep 13 with 4098 views

pointofblue

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:49 - Sep 13 by FrimleyBlue
Both who won't be here next season. So if we're rebuilding, why not rebuild with your own players.......... Granted, if Dozzell aint fit enough for 90 minutes fine. But get him involved. Otherwise, next summer we lose all our midfield and back ups. and the process starts again.

We’re selling Skuse, Huws, Nolan, Downes, Nydam and Dozzell next summer? At least we can prepare ourselves I suppose.

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:55 - Sep 13 with 4081 views

Reuser_is_God

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:43 - Sep 13 by JakeITFC
I’d ask why Dozzell has to rip it up for the U23s but Chalobah and Edun are deemed to be ready to start for our first team.

Chalobah & Edun aren’t recovering from an ACL.

Not too difficult to work that one out.

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FrimleyBlue

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:51 - Sep 13 by skyblue23
But Hurst needs to win games this season, especially now. So why would he pick a player he feels isn't as good as Edun or Chalobah ready for next season when he needs a win now?

But i'm not saying he should be starting, the two mentioned have been in the starting lineup.

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:58 - Sep 13 with 4021 views

ITFCBlues

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:49 - Sep 13 by FrimleyBlue
Both who won't be here next season. So if we're rebuilding, why not rebuild with your own players.......... Granted, if Dozzell aint fit enough for 90 minutes fine. But get him involved. Otherwise, next summer we lose all our midfield and back ups. and the process starts again.

Is Dozzell good enough is the question? Again as PH has slides to, he’s put on a pedastal when he’s played a handful of games and is now returning from a year out.

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Has our squad been improved this summer?

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:59 - Sep 13 with 4016 views

pointofblue

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:55 - Sep 13 by Reuser_is_God
Chalobah & Edun aren’t recovering from an ACL. Not too difficult to work that one out.

They’re both very different players to Dozzell too.

To me both Chalobah and Edun are reserves, comes eating various positions in the squad when required. Unfortunately, due to circumstances, they’ve been called in to do a job straight away but if/when the likes of Huws and Bishop are fit they will drop out of the starting XI. In the meantime Woolfenden and Nydam are getting experience elsewhere whilst Dozzell continues to recover from injury.

I do have my concerns about Downes’ development though - he’s too good to drop down to Non-League, which is only loan option now.

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:59 - Sep 13 with 3999 views

FrimleyBlue

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:53 - Sep 13 by pointofblue
We’re selling Skuse, Huws, Nolan, Downes, Nydam and Dozzell next summer? At least we can prepare ourselves I suppose.

Wouldn't surprise me to see 4 of those gone in the summer no, along with the loanees.

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:59 - Sep 13 with 4005 views

BlueBadger

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:44 - Sep 13 by FrimleyBlue
So you missed the bit just now when he said that's not what's stopping him.......

You'd have to be pretty thick and/or desperate to make some kind of half-arsed point to not be aware of that fact and why it might be reason for caution though, given how often it's been discussed in pressers lately.

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 15:00 - Sep 13 with 3974 views

BlueBadger

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:53 - Sep 13 by SpruceMoose
I have never known anyone to post on here, until you came along, to seize upon anything remotely negative with such tumultuous joy.

Were you here last season?

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 15:04 - Sep 13 with 3919 views

FrimleyBlue

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:59 - Sep 13 by BlueBadger
You'd have to be pretty thick and/or desperate to make some kind of half-arsed point to not be aware of that fact and why it might be reason for caution though, given how often it's been discussed in pressers lately.

Not really, he was finally asked directly what was going on with him and he finally provided a proper answer, admitting the injury isn't the concern, but once again it's the Hurst fitness measurement which he doesn't match and he can't play to suit Hurst, how about use him in a different way then. Off the bench, get the ball, create.

Same as Rowe, people saying Dozzell needs to rip it up at u23 level... Everyone's been raving about Rowe, yet not in contention again due to fitness measurement.

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 15:06 - Sep 13 with 3905 views

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 14:53 - Sep 13 by SpruceMoose
I have never known anyone to post on here, until you came along, to seize upon anything remotely negative with such tumultuous joy.

Surely you remember Nerdy?

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Hurst on Dozzell.... on 15:08 - Sep 13 with 3871 views

BlueBadger

Hurst on Dozzell.... on 15:04 - Sep 13 by FrimleyBlue

What's he's said today doesn't magically negate all he's said previously about his injury rehab, you know.

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