| I voted remain 22:18 - Sep 20 with 18990 views | clive_baker |
But now I’m getting to the point where I think feck them all. Macron’s annoyed me. Crash out with no deal and pick up the pieces after I say. |  |
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| I voted remain on 22:20 - Sep 20 with 8436 views | Blueorder |
We might be picking up the pieces for a very long time indeed. |  | | |
| I voted remain on 22:21 - Sep 20 with 8431 views | mos |
That’s a very pathetic way of doing things. |  |
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| I voted remain on 22:24 - Sep 20 with 8421 views | Vic |
Exactly! It is just this sort of statement that lay behind my ‘leave’ vote. I resent other leaders tell8ng us what we must do. Let him concentrate on sorting out his countries own mess and not tell us what we should do. |  |
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| I voted remain on 22:24 - Sep 20 with 8417 views | J2BLUE |
If you voted remain why are you getting offended on behalf of Boris, Gove, Rees-Mogg etc? |  |
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| I voted remain on 22:27 - Sep 20 with 8410 views | factual_blue |
| I voted remain on 22:24 - Sep 20 by Vic |
Exactly! It is just this sort of statement that lay behind my ‘leave’ vote. I resent other leaders tell8ng us what we must do. Let him concentrate on sorting out his countries own mess and not tell us what we should do. |
It's a good job the British Empire never devoted any effort to telling others how to run their affairs, and then sending a gunship to emphasise the point.
Oh.... |  |
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| I voted remain on 22:32 - Sep 20 with 8388 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
But he's a cuddly ex Rotschild banker, I mean centrist! |  |
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| I voted remain on 22:33 - Sep 20 with 8376 views | Ftnfwest |
| I voted remain on 22:27 - Sep 20 by factual_blue |
It's a good job the British Empire never devoted any effort to telling others how to run their affairs, and then sending a gunship to emphasise the point.
Oh.... |
Or the German one...mmm |  | | |
| I voted remain on 22:34 - Sep 20 with 8378 views | clive_baker |
| I voted remain on 22:24 - Sep 20 by J2BLUE |
If you voted remain why are you getting offended on behalf of Boris, Gove, Rees-Mogg etc? |
I’m not offended on anyone’s behalf, I’m just bored of it all. I wanted in, more people wanted out, get on with it now I say. | |
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| I voted remain on 00:12 - Sep 21 with 8260 views | BlueBadger |
Then you're nearly as big an idiot as those who were taken in by Boris and his gang. |  |
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| I voted remain on 00:14 - Sep 21 with 8253 views | SpruceMoose |
I don't believe you. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| I voted remain on 00:23 - Sep 21 with 8240 views | BlueBadger |
| I voted remain on 22:24 - Sep 20 by Vic |
Exactly! It is just this sort of statement that lay behind my ‘leave’ vote. I resent other leaders tell8ng us what we must do. Let him concentrate on sorting out his countries own mess and not tell us what we should do. |
So, what's your view on Nigel Farage addressing political rallies of not-at-all nazis in Germany, say? | |
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| I voted remain on 00:50 - Sep 21 with 8215 views | jeera |
| I voted remain on 22:27 - Sep 20 by factual_blue |
It's a good job the British Empire never devoted any effort to telling others how to run their affairs, and then sending a gunship to emphasise the point.
Oh.... |
To be fair we always emphasise this, but tend to overlook how the French, Spanish, Portugese, Italians and Dutch all did the same.
The concept of mercantilism was hardly unique to the British. |  |
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| I voted remain on 01:09 - Sep 21 with 8199 views | Ryorry |
Can't agree with your last sentence, but despite being a firm "remainer", his comment tonight (as quoted by Facters) annoyed me too - and you can therefore understand a bit more why some "leavers" voted as they did. |  |
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| I voted remain on 01:10 - Sep 21 with 8188 views | SpruceMoose |
| I voted remain on 01:09 - Sep 21 by Ryorry |
Can't agree with your last sentence, but despite being a firm "remainer", his comment tonight (as quoted by Facters) annoyed me too - and you can therefore understand a bit more why some "leavers" voted as they did. |
I suppose he can be right, and we can be annoyed, and both be kind of correct! | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| I voted remain on 01:15 - Sep 21 with 8180 views | Ryorry |
| I voted remain on 01:10 - Sep 21 by SpruceMoose |
I suppose he can be right, and we can be annoyed, and both be kind of correct! |
Well, sort of. Which comments all round just go to show how wonderfully suited to a simple "yes" or "no" referendum the whole shooting match was!
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| I voted remain on 01:18 - Sep 21 with 8160 views | SpruceMoose |
| I voted remain on 01:15 - Sep 21 by Ryorry |
Well, sort of. Which comments all round just go to show how wonderfully suited to a simple "yes" or "no" referendum the whole shooting match was!
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Blurgh. Stop the world I want to be German. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| I voted remain on 08:09 - Sep 21 with 7948 views | bournemouthblue |
| I voted remain on 22:21 - Sep 20 by mos |
That’s a very pathetic way of doing things. |
The Brexmaniacs like Mogg will relish that
The problem I have with the no deal and the people who want it in parliament is they are unlikely to feel any pain from it. In fact there are some very wealthy individuals set to make a lot of money from the turbulence it will bring. |  |
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| I voted remain on 08:17 - Sep 21 with 7924 views | SomethingBlue |
The problem is that Macron is absolutely right. Hard words for anyone to hear - but impossible to argue with. |  |
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| I voted remain on 08:19 - Sep 21 with 7932 views | RegencyBlue |
It's the EU's usual modus operandi.
The result of a democratic vote which they dont like is constantly attacked and pressure put on to 'think again'.
In short democracy is OK as long as the plebs vote the way they are supposed to! |  | | |
| I voted remain on 08:24 - Sep 21 with 7905 views | Bluefish |
I find the half wits quite amusing when they get annoyed at experts, prominent figures and the media only reporting on the negatives and the danger. Maybe just maybe it is because that is the reality |  |
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| I voted remain on 08:32 - Sep 21 with 7883 views | uefacup81 |
| I voted remain on 08:19 - Sep 21 by RegencyBlue |
It's the EU's usual modus operandi.
The result of a democratic vote which they dont like is constantly attacked and pressure put on to 'think again'.
In short democracy is OK as long as the plebs vote the way they are supposed to! |
See also: Ireland and the Lisbon Treaty.
Part of the problem is that the UK's negotiation has been utterly woeful. Anyone with even the most basic understanding of negotiation knows that you lead with your 'moon-on-a-stick' demands, and allow yourself to be argued down to something you're still rather happy with.
May has led with a very weak set of demands, and has been argued down from there.
So much of the EU's attitude is (in my eyes, at least) damage limitation. If they allow the UK to negotiate any sort of favourable deal whatsoever, it'll strengthen anti-EU movements in many more EU countries by showing that it is possible to successfully leave the EU. More than anything else, their aim is to make an example of the UK 'pour encourager les autres'... |  |
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| I voted remain on 08:34 - Sep 21 with 7875 views | SomethingBlue |
| I voted remain on 08:19 - Sep 21 by RegencyBlue |
It's the EU's usual modus operandi.
The result of a democratic vote which they dont like is constantly attacked and pressure put on to 'think again'.
In short democracy is OK as long as the plebs vote the way they are supposed to! |
It's your pals Rees-Mogg and Johnson who hate the "plebs", not the EU. That's the biggest tragedy of this entire sad affair. [Post edited 21 Sep 2018 8:35]
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| I voted remain on 08:38 - Sep 21 with 7857 views | No9 |
| I voted remain on 22:24 - Sep 20 by Vic |
Exactly! It is just this sort of statement that lay behind my ‘leave’ vote. I resent other leaders tell8ng us what we must do. Let him concentrate on sorting out his countries own mess and not tell us what we should do. |
You resent others telling others what to do?
has it occured t you that is just what the tories are trying to do in Europe? | | | |
| I voted remain on 08:42 - Sep 21 with 7840 views | uefacup81 |
| I voted remain on 08:34 - Sep 21 by SomethingBlue |
It's your pals Rees-Mogg and Johnson who hate the "plebs", not the EU. That's the biggest tragedy of this entire sad affair. [Post edited 21 Sep 2018 8:35]
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Or maybe it's more a case of the EU having no time for anyone who disagrees with them and their way of doing things.
If you look at Ireland and the Lisbon Treaty; following the original 'no' vote, the EU ploughed money into Eire and made damned sure that every project with even the tiniest amount of EU funding had a massive sign highlighting the fact that the EU was paying for it.
How is this sort of thing any different to the actions of the USSR in sub-Saharan Africa and South America in the 1970s/80s, or the current actions of China around the world, by funding infrastructure projects in order to win countries over to their way of thinking? | |
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| I voted remain on 08:46 - Sep 21 with 7821 views | No9 |
| I voted remain on 08:42 - Sep 21 by uefacup81 |
Or maybe it's more a case of the EU having no time for anyone who disagrees with them and their way of doing things.
If you look at Ireland and the Lisbon Treaty; following the original 'no' vote, the EU ploughed money into Eire and made damned sure that every project with even the tiniest amount of EU funding had a massive sign highlighting the fact that the EU was paying for it.
How is this sort of thing any different to the actions of the USSR in sub-Saharan Africa and South America in the 1970s/80s, or the current actions of China around the world, by funding infrastructure projects in order to win countries over to their way of thinking? |
You don't see it was the reality of the loss of EU support for the Irish infrastructure and the considerable sums of international money coming into support the Irish economy as being relevant - because all that would have cease & Ireland would have returned to being potato growers? | | | |
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