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If we do leave then it will be with a Norway deal and we will apply to rejoin within ten to 15 years.
I feel pretty much as you do but I am slowly modifying my position. It does seem like we really are going to be out. Of course it will be half out as opposed to our current position of half in and the idea that we would be free from the influence of 500m person economy on our doorstep is ludicrous. But I do now think we will be out with No Deal.
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
I look forward to you detailing the difference between Brexit and virtual-Brexit.
I'm happy to be served up humble Brexit pie at the end of March 2019, but at the moment I can only see Brexit egg being wiped off lots of people's faces.
I wouldn't put it past the government to increase tensions with Russia to such a level that a National Unity Government is called and Brexit postponed. I'm not saying that will happen, just that it's more likely than Brexit happening.
But let's not get too carried away on what may or not happen. Let's just see.
Precisely. I even know Spanish and French business owners who have changed their plans from putting their European head quarters in London to Paris instead. What a great way to centralise EU power. The EU leaders love Theresa May. If we were serious about breaking away from the EU, we wouldn't still be cutting our armed forces. What's the point of greater independence only to have a more integrated EU military?
I thought defence was one area where we'd still be co-operating?
I feel pretty much as you do but I am slowly modifying my position. It does seem like we really are going to be out. Of course it will be half out as opposed to our current position of half in and the idea that we would be free from the influence of 500m person economy on our doorstep is ludicrous. But I do now think we will be out with No Deal.
May doesn't have the balls to walk with no deal.
If she did then last night was the time to say "fcuk you £40billion settlement. We are out".
The leaders of the 27 smaller nations would have pressured Junker and Tusk to come back with a compromise.
I look forward to you detailing the difference between Brexit and virtual-Brexit.
I'm happy to be served up humble Brexit pie at the end of March 2019, but at the moment I can only see Brexit egg being wiped off lots of people's faces.
I wouldn't put it past the government to increase tensions with Russia to such a level that a National Unity Government is called and Brexit postponed. I'm not saying that will happen, just that it's more likely than Brexit happening.
But let's not get too carried away on what may or not happen. Let's just see.
"I wouldn't put it past the government to increase tensions with Russia to such a level that a National Unity Government is called and Brexit postponed. I'm not saying that will happen, just that it's more likely than Brexit happening. "
I look forward to you detailing the difference between Brexit and virtual-Brexit.
I'm happy to be served up humble Brexit pie at the end of March 2019, but at the moment I can only see Brexit egg being wiped off lots of people's faces.
I wouldn't put it past the government to increase tensions with Russia to such a level that a National Unity Government is called and Brexit postponed. I'm not saying that will happen, just that it's more likely than Brexit happening.
But let's not get too carried away on what may or not happen. Let's just see.
so you haven't really got a killer point, just a hunch. Fair enough - you could be right i spose.
Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
I look forward to you detailing the difference between Brexit and virtual-Brexit.
I'm happy to be served up humble Brexit pie at the end of March 2019, but at the moment I can only see Brexit egg being wiped off lots of people's faces.
I wouldn't put it past the government to increase tensions with Russia to such a level that a National Unity Government is called and Brexit postponed. I'm not saying that will happen, just that it's more likely than Brexit happening.
But let's not get too carried away on what may or not happen. Let's just see.
There is no chance that a government of national unity will be called so long as Corbyn is Labour leader.
That's an somewhat understandable but ultimately stupid way of looking at the situation, IMO.
Tbf it is understandable - there was a political commentator on R5l late last night saying exactly that - ie because a concise summary of the pros and cons of Brexit has never been made, the whole thing has droned on everywhere, all the time, resulting in it becoming just such background noise that people have stopped listening and want it over and done with, regardless of what "it" may be.
I look forward to you detailing the difference between Brexit and virtual-Brexit.
I'm happy to be served up humble Brexit pie at the end of March 2019, but at the moment I can only see Brexit egg being wiped off lots of people's faces.
I wouldn't put it past the government to increase tensions with Russia to such a level that a National Unity Government is called and Brexit postponed. I'm not saying that will happen, just that it's more likely than Brexit happening.
But let's not get too carried away on what may or not happen. Let's just see.
So we have gone from "nothing has happened to move the UK away from EU control" to "lets see what happens"
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
If she did then last night was the time to say "fcuk you £40billion settlement. We are out".
The leaders of the 27 smaller nations would have pressured Junker and Tusk to come back with a compromise.
Dont we owe them the money regardless of deal or no deal?
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
Dont we owe them the money regardless of deal or no deal?
No. It's part of the negotiations to reaching a deal. No deal then it's off the table. With the UK being only one of three net contributors the EU would be fcuked.
No. It's part of the negotiations to reaching a deal. No deal then it's off the table. With the UK being only one of three net contributors the EU would be fcuked.
But legally..? I confess I have no idea really. And i would imagine that if we didnt pay they would punish us on trade, capital movement etc
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
But legally..? I confess I have no idea really. And i would imagine that if we didnt pay they would punish us on trade, capital movement etc
"And the Government would not pay the terms of the financial settlement, as agreed with the EU as part of the Withdrawal Agreement. There’s no deal without the whole deal".
That's the vote, us remainers need to embrace it and take it on the chin. It was a democratic process and we can't keep going back & forth 'til we get a result/decision that we like. That's not democracy.
We can all stand on the cliff tops at Dover and shake our collective fist at the rest of the Europe whilst becoming insular & non appreciative of other nations struggles from afar. It's no longer our issue.
Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing.
I look forward to you detailing the difference between Brexit and virtual-Brexit.
I'm happy to be served up humble Brexit pie at the end of March 2019, but at the moment I can only see Brexit egg being wiped off lots of people's faces.
I wouldn't put it past the government to increase tensions with Russia to such a level that a National Unity Government is called and Brexit postponed. I'm not saying that will happen, just that it's more likely than Brexit happening.
But let's not get too carried away on what may or not happen. Let's just see.
Good old Russia, squeaky clean and picked on horribly by all those mean and nasty Western countries.
"And the Government would not pay the terms of the financial settlement, as agreed with the EU as part of the Withdrawal Agreement. There’s no deal without the whole deal".
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