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What's wrong with this picture? 14:28 - Oct 3 with 4269 viewsKeaneish

Posted this in another thread but there's a tonne of stuff here for debate and scrutiny...

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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:29 - Oct 3 with 3635 viewsFrimleyBlue

which way we shooting?

Need more info, are they passing the ball or are we in that frame?
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Waka waka eh eh
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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:32 - Oct 3 with 3607 viewsartsbossbeard

What's wrong with this picture? on 14:29 - Oct 3 by FrimleyBlue

which way we shooting?

Need more info, are they passing the ball or are we in that frame?
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Which way are Boro shooting would be more apt.

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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:33 - Oct 3 with 3597 viewsBtreeBlueBlood

the high press didn't work

the get out ball has now left 3 players watching the game.
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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:33 - Oct 3 with 3595 viewsRobTheMonk

Was this the first half where Skuse went ball chasing crazy and no one knew what to do?
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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:37 - Oct 3 with 3562 viewsRobTheMonk

What's wrong with this picture? on 14:33 - Oct 3 by BtreeBlueBlood

the high press didn't work

the get out ball has now left 3 players watching the game.


I think Skuse might be near their goalkeeper along with jackson so make that 5 players out the game lol.
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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:39 - Oct 3 with 3544 viewsFrimleyBlue

What's wrong with this picture? on 14:37 - Oct 3 by RobTheMonk

I think Skuse might be near their goalkeeper along with jackson so make that 5 players out the game lol.


wow. just wow

Waka waka eh eh
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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:41 - Oct 3 with 3546 viewsitfcjoe

You need the frame before - Skuse has gone and Nolan rather than drop to Besic goes as well - it's amateur stuff

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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:51 - Oct 3 with 3466 viewsDanTheMan

What's wrong with this picture? on 14:41 - Oct 3 by itfcjoe

You need the frame before - Skuse has gone and Nolan rather than drop to Besic goes as well - it's amateur stuff


Yeah but we've got to find a way to blame Skuse for everything.

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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:51 - Oct 3 with 3481 viewsitfcjoe

Skuse is level with Nolan, and goes rightly so



At this point it is 3 v 2 - Chalobah has to go to the ball or that man is 1 vs 1, Nolan has to drop to Besic, instead he goes for wrong man and leaves besic totally open.



If he drops to Besic, ball goes to 22 who has to do something special to get away and allows us time to regroup

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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:55 - Oct 3 with 3436 viewsTractorCam

What's wrong with this picture? on 14:51 - Oct 3 by itfcjoe

Skuse is level with Nolan, and goes rightly so



At this point it is 3 v 2 - Chalobah has to go to the ball or that man is 1 vs 1, Nolan has to drop to Besic, instead he goes for wrong man and leaves besic totally open.



If he drops to Besic, ball goes to 22 who has to do something special to get away and allows us time to regroup


Basic for Besic.

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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:55 - Oct 3 with 3435 viewsKeaneish

What's wrong with this picture? on 14:41 - Oct 3 by itfcjoe

You need the frame before - Skuse has gone and Nolan rather than drop to Besic goes as well - it's amateur stuff


Big time. It's all over the place...

- Skuse loses shape, presses and no-one supports
- Graham doesn't tuck round
- Chalobah gets sucked to the ball
- Chalobah could drop deep but is then 2-1 letting them run at him
- Chalobah could split them but is then isolated
- Nolan doesn't drop to cover Skuse on Besic or support Skuse, no-man's land
- Defensive line is nowhere in sight and way too deep

In their defence, if we've been told to press and press high all overt he park, why aren't we doing it as a unit? So fragmented it beggars belief...

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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:58 - Oct 3 with 3413 viewsitfcjoe

What's wrong with this picture? on 14:55 - Oct 3 by Keaneish

Big time. It's all over the place...

- Skuse loses shape, presses and no-one supports
- Graham doesn't tuck round
- Chalobah gets sucked to the ball
- Chalobah could drop deep but is then 2-1 letting them run at him
- Chalobah could split them but is then isolated
- Nolan doesn't drop to cover Skuse on Besic or support Skuse, no-man's land
- Defensive line is nowhere in sight and way too deep

In their defence, if we've been told to press and press high all overt he park, why aren't we doing it as a unit? So fragmented it beggars belief...


I think the press is ok until Nolan loses the line, Jackson probably needed to drop in once Skuse went past him but it worries me that Nolan gets it so wrong when he is a player that was part of the high press last year that brought hurst his success.

It is absolute basics

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What's wrong with this picture? on 14:58 - Oct 3 with 3412 viewsBrightonBlue

What's wrong with this picture? on 14:55 - Oct 3 by Keaneish

Big time. It's all over the place...

- Skuse loses shape, presses and no-one supports
- Graham doesn't tuck round
- Chalobah gets sucked to the ball
- Chalobah could drop deep but is then 2-1 letting them run at him
- Chalobah could split them but is then isolated
- Nolan doesn't drop to cover Skuse on Besic or support Skuse, no-man's land
- Defensive line is nowhere in sight and way too deep

In their defence, if we've been told to press and press high all overt he park, why aren't we doing it as a unit? So fragmented it beggars belief...


Yep posted this earlier:

putting aside the Hurst in/out chat..... by BrightonBlue 3 Oct 2018 9:33
The big issue for me is lack of understanding and interchange in midfield. Take the first goal last night. Skuse presses and ventures forward, Nolan then doesn’t cover the man left in the middle and drifts away which allows Boro space and time to drive forward. We aren’t playing as a unit.



The big issue for me is lack of understanding and interchange in midfield. Take the first goal last night. Skuse presses and ventures forward, Nolan then doesn’t cover the man left in the middle and drifts away which allows Boro space and time to drive forward. We aren’t playing as a unit.
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What's wrong with this picture? on 15:03 - Oct 3 with 3374 viewsLankHenners

What's wrong with this picture? on 14:51 - Oct 3 by DanTheMan

Yeah but we've got to find a way to blame Skuse for everything.


Careful, the OP will block you for that sort of comment.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
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What's wrong with this picture? on 15:10 - Oct 3 with 3337 viewstextbackup

What's wrong with this picture? on 14:55 - Oct 3 by Keaneish

Big time. It's all over the place...

- Skuse loses shape, presses and no-one supports
- Graham doesn't tuck round
- Chalobah gets sucked to the ball
- Chalobah could drop deep but is then 2-1 letting them run at him
- Chalobah could split them but is then isolated
- Nolan doesn't drop to cover Skuse on Besic or support Skuse, no-man's land
- Defensive line is nowhere in sight and way too deep

In their defence, if we've been told to press and press high all overt he park, why aren't we doing it as a unit? So fragmented it beggars belief...


So midfield fail...
now let’s look at the defence, the man shots and runs onto his own shot, and is unchallenged because Knudsen hasn’t tucked in as is worried about his man by the touchline! Just let the guy run through JK, it’s fine...

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What's wrong with this picture? on 15:11 - Oct 3 with 3326 viewsitfcjoe

What's wrong with this picture? on 15:10 - Oct 3 by textbackup

So midfield fail...
now let’s look at the defence, the man shots and runs onto his own shot, and is unchallenged because Knudsen hasn’t tucked in as is worried about his man by the touchline! Just let the guy run through JK, it’s fine...


Problem is surely both nsiala and Chambers go to block the shot - one should go

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What's wrong with this picture? on 15:14 - Oct 3 with 3308 viewstextbackup

What's wrong with this picture? on 15:11 - Oct 3 by itfcjoe

Problem is surely both nsiala and Chambers go to block the shot - one should go


Both are an issue, as a FB JK is watching them go, should instantly tuck in. That is basic stuff

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What's wrong with this picture? on 15:24 - Oct 3 with 3261 viewsitfcjoe

What's wrong with this picture? on 15:14 - Oct 3 by textbackup

Both are an issue, as a FB JK is watching them go, should instantly tuck in. That is basic stuff


A lot of basic errors - almost like the players are totally devoid of confidence.

Amazes me some took positives from last night - we gave away 2 rubbish goals and then Boro just shut the game out with ease

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What's wrong with this picture? on 15:29 - Oct 3 with 3227 viewstextbackup

What's wrong with this picture? on 15:24 - Oct 3 by itfcjoe

A lot of basic errors - almost like the players are totally devoid of confidence.

Amazes me some took positives from last night - we gave away 2 rubbish goals and then Boro just shut the game out with ease


Exactly, boro switched off on 25mins and didn’t get out of 1st gear.
They knew we’d not pick them apart or even create a chance

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What's wrong with this picture? on 15:33 - Oct 3 with 3214 viewsitfcjoe

What's wrong with this picture? on 15:29 - Oct 3 by textbackup

Exactly, boro switched off on 25mins and didn’t get out of 1st gear.
They knew we’d not pick them apart or even create a chance


They turned it on for 5-10 minutes in the second half and created 3 better chances than we had all game - Ayala header off the line, Hugill miscued header, Hugill shot just wide, Friend cutting in and smashing shot across.

God we are sh*t

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What's wrong with this picture? on 15:35 - Oct 3 with 3200 viewsartsbossbeard

What's wrong with this picture? on 14:51 - Oct 3 by itfcjoe

Skuse is level with Nolan, and goes rightly so



At this point it is 3 v 2 - Chalobah has to go to the ball or that man is 1 vs 1, Nolan has to drop to Besic, instead he goes for wrong man and leaves besic totally open.



If he drops to Besic, ball goes to 22 who has to do something special to get away and allows us time to regroup


Through my footy coaching with the lads, we use the phrase 'deal with the now not the future' which gets shortened to 'deal with the now'.

Effectively, we're simply asking the lads to deal with the striker bearing down on goal and forget about the lad outside for the time being. It's entry level coaching stuff but if someone switches off...

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What's wrong with this picture? on 15:36 - Oct 3 with 3196 viewsKeaneish

What's wrong with this picture? on 15:24 - Oct 3 by itfcjoe

A lot of basic errors - almost like the players are totally devoid of confidence.

Amazes me some took positives from last night - we gave away 2 rubbish goals and then Boro just shut the game out with ease


As a philosophy and an approach i like what Hurst is trying to install here and the patches where you see it working, its really decent to watch. However, when the basics aren't done properly, its atrocious.

The positive is that basics are easy to fix. The negative is that we're 11 games in and we're making them, frequently. Time to go back to a 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2 for me. Back to basics for a bit starting Saturday to get some points on the board.

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What's wrong with this picture? on 15:37 - Oct 3 with 3188 viewsbackwaywhen

What's wrong with this picture? on 14:33 - Oct 3 by RobTheMonk

Was this the first half where Skuse went ball chasing crazy and no one knew what to do?


Skuse at least tried to support Jackson ...no other player could be bothered !!!!
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What's wrong with this picture? on 15:42 - Oct 3 with 3172 viewsReuser_is_God

Pressing properly is literally the easiest thing in football.

1 player closes the guy on the ball down
Other players support this by shutting off options of a short pass
Player on the ball either gets dispossessed/plays a team into trouble/hoofs it long

All 3 of those options for the player on the ball result in giving you a chance to turn possession.

Pressing isn’t 3 men all trying to get the ball back, you’ll get cut open as we did last night.

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What's wrong with this picture? on 15:43 - Oct 3 with 3165 viewsRobTheMonk

What's wrong with this picture? on 15:37 - Oct 3 by backwaywhen

Skuse at least tried to support Jackson ...no other player could be bothered !!!!


I'm fine with Skuse ball chasing as long as others know what to do which evidently they had no clue haha!
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