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Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom 20:49 - Oct 15 with 4527 viewsgordon

Might be about to pull the plug on Theresa May with a co-ordinated ultimatum, then resignation tomorrow.

The Conservative party have played an absolute blinder from Dave's decision to throw a referendum without considering that he might lose, through to Theresa's continued mutually inconsistent promises, fudges and 'we'll iron that out at the next meeting' approach.
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Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 22:41 - Oct 15 with 1259 viewsBOjK

Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 21:00 - Oct 15 by GlasgowBlue

This is my take on it for what it's worth

If you want the softest possible Brexit, vote Labour.... by GlasgowBlue 27 Sep 2018 17:14
My thoughts for what they are worth.

There won't be an election unless May makes Chequers a vote of confidence. She may chose to do that in order to frighten those on the left who want an even softer Brexit, and those on the right who want one which is harder, in order to back the deal but I doubt she will do this as she doesn't have the numbers.

Chequers will be voted down, Corbyn will put forward a motion of no confidence in the government and the rebels from each wing or the Tory party will vote to save the government. The DUP, faced with a former IRA sympathisers like John McDonnell, Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott taking control of 10 Downing Street, the Treasury, the Home Office, the Ministry of Defence, MI6 and MI6 will also back the government and the Tory administration will survive.

May will gamble, as John Major did over the same issue in 1994 (?), and resign as leader of the Conservative party whilst staying in the role of Prime Minister. Boris will decide whether or not he has enough support in the parliamentary party to make the final two candidates which then go to the members to vote. He will know, frustratingly for him, that if he makes the final two he will probably win the leadership and become Prime Minister by Christmas, but will conclude that he simply doesn't have the support from his Parliamentary colleagues so will bottle standing against her.

Unless a stalking horse puts his or her head above the parapet May will remain unchallenged and continue as leader safe in the knowledge that there cannot be another challenge for a calendar year.

As I say, these are my own thoughts. I also predicted that the Tories would win a 100+ majority at the election so what do I know?



The rules for the leadership of the Tory party and the fixed term parliament act change a lot.

May can’t make Chequers a vote of confidence, it doesn’t work like that any more. She could threaten to resign as PM, but the Tories would carry on in power.

It also isn’t obvious May can stand down and fight for the leadership again. What she could do is ask her allies to put the letters in to force a vote or confidence in her. Win that and she’s unassailable for a year

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Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 22:44 - Oct 15 with 1249 viewsBOjK

Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 21:25 - Oct 15 by sparks

The issue here is not May or Boris or anyone else.

The proposition of Brexit appears impossible to achieve without some as yet unimagined solution about the irish border.

It really wasnt highlighted at the time of the referendum. But its a virtual impossibility.


It seems so. I read something excellent on the Irish border about a week before the referendum, basically predicting where we are now.

I could find no holes in the argument out forward, but assumed there would have to be a way forward. It appears I was mistaken

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Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 23:04 - Oct 15 with 1224 viewsfactual_blue

Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 21:15 - Oct 15 by Keno

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Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 10:21 - Oct 16 with 1152 viewsNo9

None of those threatening to resign would be a loss, even to a gevernment as bad as this one.
In fact bringing in some talent, not normally a tory trait would probably help.
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Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 16:55 - Oct 16 with 1114 viewsSwansea_Blue

Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 10:21 - Oct 16 by No9

None of those threatening to resign would be a loss, even to a gevernment as bad as this one.
In fact bringing in some talent, not normally a tory trait would probably help.


Irrelevant anyway, as it hasn't happened. Same as usual: lots of bluster but no balls to carry through the threats.

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Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 19:46 - Oct 16 with 1081 viewsgordon

Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 16:55 - Oct 16 by Swansea_Blue

Irrelevant anyway, as it hasn't happened. Same as usual: lots of bluster but no balls to carry through the threats.


Pathetic. At a quite fundamental level most of the Cabinet just haven't got a clue what's going on so are unable to either publicly support or criticise the Governments plans.
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Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 12:06 - Oct 17 with 1022 viewsNo9

Penny Mordaunt, Esther McVey and Andrea Leadsom on 22:41 - Oct 15 by BOjK

The rules for the leadership of the Tory party and the fixed term parliament act change a lot.

May can’t make Chequers a vote of confidence, it doesn’t work like that any more. She could threaten to resign as PM, but the Tories would carry on in power.

It also isn’t obvious May can stand down and fight for the leadership again. What she could do is ask her allies to put the letters in to force a vote or confidence in her. Win that and she’s unassailable for a year


As you point out the changes cameron made make it very difficult for any opposition to oust the sitting government. My observations on Mr Camerons conduct from the time he became leader of the tories is that he engineered the situation we now find ourselves in. I don't for one moment think he was bright enough to do that alone but the establishment would have the nous.

That apart I don't relly think the brexiteers would bring down the government their objective was leaked by Mr Gove = they can change anything the current PM does after the next election which they are confident they will win.
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