| Raab absolutely typifies.... 12:08 - Nov 18 with 7874 views | Herbivore |
....both the arrogance and ignorance that characterises Tory Brexiteers. Not only did he not realise that the Dover-Calais crossing is vital to the UK economy, today he has come out and said that what was lacking in negotiations was simply political will, suggesting that if we'd just tried a bit harder we'd have walked away with a cracking bespoke deal that delivers on the Brexit pipedream. Then there's this chestnut:
"I do think there is a point at which - we probably should have done it before - were we just to say 'I'm sorry this is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, we cannot accept those dictated terms'."
It seems he never has and still doesn't grasp what a complex thing Brexit is. The fact that many Brexiteers think May simply hasn't tried hard enough, whilst totally failing to offer anything themselves when given the chance, is quite staggering. They still don't get it. They still believe in the pipedream even when they've been intimately involved in the process and had to run away because it got too hard.
The whole thing is a total, total shambles. |  |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:23 - Nov 18 with 2991 views | J2BLUE |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:22 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
Well, you sort of have been for all your political life until Corbyn became leader and you've now decided to have very high standards. |
Did you really just suggest he's been a fan of racists? |  |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:24 - Nov 18 with 2986 views | Herbivore |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:23 - Nov 18 by GlasgowBlue |
Well that is complete and utter bollox from you as usual. |
I make him right. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:25 - Nov 18 with 2984 views | J2BLUE |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:24 - Nov 18 by Herbivore |
I make him right. |
We're stunned. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:26 - Nov 18 with 2978 views | Darth_Koont |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:23 - Nov 18 by J2BLUE |
Did you really just suggest he's been a fan of racists? |
Sure did. If you're going to pass judgement on Corbyn as a racist and a liar then you'd expect to have the same level thrown back, wouldn't you?
Anything else is utter, opportunistic hypocrisy. |  |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:26 - Nov 18 with 2980 views | Guthrum |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 12:36 - Nov 18 by floridaboy |
One of the broadsheets this morning has suggested that if baffoon Johnson or one of his cronies get to the PM job that Mogg will be named chancellor.
Oh Dear!!!!! |
Given that the European Research Group has proven themselves unable to count to 48, that would not be a promising development. |  |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:28 - Nov 18 with 2962 views | Darth_Koont |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:23 - Nov 18 by GlasgowBlue |
Well that is complete and utter bollox from you as usual. |
It really isn't, is it? | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:29 - Nov 18 with 2953 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:26 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
Sure did. If you're going to pass judgement on Corbyn as a racist and a liar then you'd expect to have the same level thrown back, wouldn't you?
Anything else is utter, opportunistic hypocrisy. |
I'm basing my judgment on the things he has said and done, coupled with the views of people like Sir Trevor Phillips, former head of the race relations board.
What have I said and done to suggest I am a fan of racists? |  |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:31 - Nov 18 with 2938 views | Darth_Koont |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:29 - Nov 18 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm basing my judgment on the things he has said and done, coupled with the views of people like Sir Trevor Phillips, former head of the race relations board.
What have I said and done to suggest I am a fan of racists? |
I'm not getting into this with you. You know what I think. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:32 - Nov 18 with 2935 views | J2BLUE |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:26 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
Sure did. If you're going to pass judgement on Corbyn as a racist and a liar then you'd expect to have the same level thrown back, wouldn't you?
Anything else is utter, opportunistic hypocrisy. |
If you can give some examples of the racists yes. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:33 - Nov 18 with 2928 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:31 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
I'm not getting into this with you. You know what I think. |
If you are going to accuse me of being a fan of racists then I suggest you do get into this or shut the fcuk up and apologise. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:40 - Nov 18 with 2900 views | Darth_Koont |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:32 - Nov 18 by J2BLUE |
If you can give some examples of the racists yes. |
I'd rather not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_UK_Conservative_Party
But I'm sure GB was a fierce campaigner on the inside. And has also never approved of a dishonest campaign in the name of politics or been highly selective with his information or words when making his case. So I wholeheartedly apologise and withdraw my accusation. I have no idea why I could even think that. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:43 - Nov 18 with 2883 views | Darth_Koont |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:33 - Nov 18 by GlasgowBlue |
If you are going to accuse me of being a fan of racists then I suggest you do get into this or shut the fcuk up and apologise. |
Oh dear. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:49 - Nov 18 with 2843 views | J2BLUE |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:40 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
I'd rather not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_UK_Conservative_Party
But I'm sure GB was a fierce campaigner on the inside. And has also never approved of a dishonest campaign in the name of politics or been highly selective with his information or words when making his case. So I wholeheartedly apologise and withdraw my accusation. I have no idea why I could even think that. |
In the past whenever I have said something about someone on here and then not been able to provide a specific example i've made a point of withdrawing the comment. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:59 - Nov 18 with 2814 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:43 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
Oh dear. |
You claimed that I used to be a fan of racists. I'm still waiting for an example.
You could always discretely edit out what you posted. People would probably think more of you as a man if you did. [Post edited 18 Nov 2018 14:59]
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 15:04 - Nov 18 with 2804 views | Darth_Koont |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:49 - Nov 18 by J2BLUE |
In the past whenever I have said something about someone on here and then not been able to provide a specific example i've made a point of withdrawing the comment. |
That link is full of specific examples. There are clearly many more too if anyone wants to dig them all up and drown the board in evidence.
But is GB any more "a fan of racists" any more than Corbyn is a racist because of the organisation and some of the people both have associated themselves with? In response to his posts on the subject I'm just trying to see what standard applies here — or whether he thinks there's a different one for him.
He is a dishonest and shady poster though — but probably corrupted by his love of the game of politics and his obsession with Corbyn. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 15:06 - Nov 18 with 2792 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 15:04 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
That link is full of specific examples. There are clearly many more too if anyone wants to dig them all up and drown the board in evidence.
But is GB any more "a fan of racists" any more than Corbyn is a racist because of the organisation and some of the people both have associated themselves with? In response to his posts on the subject I'm just trying to see what standard applies here — or whether he thinks there's a different one for him.
He is a dishonest and shady poster though — but probably corrupted by his love of the game of politics and his obsession with Corbyn. |
Doubling down on your ridiculous suggestion only makes you look like a bigger fool. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 15:12 - Nov 18 with 2777 views | Darth_Koont |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:59 - Nov 18 by GlasgowBlue |
You claimed that I used to be a fan of racists. I'm still waiting for an example.
You could always discretely edit out what you posted. People would probably think more of you as a man if you did. [Post edited 18 Nov 2018 14:59]
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If you didn't play out your usual histrionics and dealt with a point two people made immediately when calling out your hypocrisy, then people would think more of you.
And they'd certainly have to read a lot less pointless posturing and moral outrage. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 15:19 - Nov 18 with 2752 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 15:12 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
If you didn't play out your usual histrionics and dealt with a point two people made immediately when calling out your hypocrisy, then people would think more of you.
And they'd certainly have to read a lot less pointless posturing and moral outrage. |
Still waiting for the examples.
Your words come across as somebody who is, a-hem, rather tired and emotional. I'll leave to to your afternoon companion. [Post edited 18 Nov 2018 15:25]
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 15:25 - Nov 18 with 2742 views | Darth_Koont |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 15:19 - Nov 18 by GlasgowBlue |
Still waiting for the examples.
Your words come across as somebody who is, a-hem, rather tired and emotional. I'll leave to to your afternoon companion. [Post edited 18 Nov 2018 15:25]
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I just gave them in the first link I could be bothered to find. You've been a fan of the Tories during all of that.
I'll leave that with you to argue the toss, willfully miss the point and get all teary. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 15:59 - Nov 18 with 2682 views | factual_blue |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 12:15 - Nov 18 by m14_blue |
Brexiteers are beginning to realise what an absolute disaster they’ve unleashed on the country and are now trying to distance themselves from the fallout by blaming the remainer May and suggesting that if only they’d been in charge the unicorns would be here by now.
Charlatans and cowards.
Credit (for now) to Gove who at least is sticking around to try and make it work. [Post edited 18 Nov 2018 12:15]
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gove has merely calculated he'll have more appeal to tory MPs if he appears loyal to the current leader. |  |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 16:01 - Nov 18 with 2672 views | mrshallisfit |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 12:09 - Nov 18 by J2BLUE |
I like Raab. Future leader. |
Do you really? You must be pretty easy to please. |  | | |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 16:02 - Nov 18 with 2670 views | Herbivore |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 15:19 - Nov 18 by GlasgowBlue |
Still waiting for the examples.
Your words come across as somebody who is, a-hem, rather tired and emotional. I'll leave to to your afternoon companion. [Post edited 18 Nov 2018 15:25]
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Oh dear. | |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 16:15 - Nov 18 with 2640 views | No9 |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 12:09 - Nov 18 by J2BLUE |
I like Raab. Future leader. |
I recommend you read some of the stuff Mr Raab has commited to paper then ask yourself if he really is the sort of person you could support. | | | |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 17:05 - Nov 18 with 2591 views | Binner |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 12:52 - Nov 18 by Lord_Lucan |
Corbyn has been anti EU since the year dot. |
That does not necessarily make him pro-Brexit. |  |
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| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 17:13 - Nov 18 with 2575 views | No9 |
| Raab absolutely typifies.... on 14:40 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont |
I'd rather not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_UK_Conservative_Party
But I'm sure GB was a fierce campaigner on the inside. And has also never approved of a dishonest campaign in the name of politics or been highly selective with his information or words when making his case. So I wholeheartedly apologise and withdraw my accusation. I have no idea why I could even think that. |
There are a lot of examples of racism in the tory party that we are not allowed to discuss | | | |
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