| Brexit for simpletons. 18:38 - Nov 25 with 6054 views | Burwell_Blue |
I have zero interest in politics as no one party will ever provide what I need, stuff like the death penalty, having people on the dole actually working for it, stuff like that.
So consequently I don’t understand fully the whole Brexit thing. Can someone a little more intelligent in this subject please tell me why can we not just say, We, the UK are out. Close our borders and deal with whom ever we want to, when we want to and how we want to.
Why do we *need* a deal? |  | | |  |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:40 - Nov 25 with 3165 views | WD19 |
Dealing with whomever we want tends to involve a deal. We want to deal with the EU 27 countries. |  | | |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:41 - Nov 25 with 3158 views | Burwell_Blue |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:40 - Nov 25 by WD19 |
Dealing with whomever we want tends to involve a deal. We want to deal with the EU 27 countries. |
Why though? Say we make eggs, can we not just open them up to the highest bidder for eggs? | | | |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:43 - Nov 25 with 3141 views | J2BLUE |
What if someone on the dole has been paying their taxes and national insurance for 40 years? |  |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:43 - Nov 25 with 3145 views | WD19 |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:41 - Nov 25 by Burwell_Blue |
Why though? Say we make eggs, can we not just open them up to the highest bidder for eggs? |
Of course, but what if the highest bidders are from within the EU27 and they have collectively agreed they won't buy our eggs? Seems like it might be a good idea to do a deal with that trading bloc so we have a better chance of shifting our eggs.....no!? | | | |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:45 - Nov 25 with 3127 views | No9 |
It would be OK if you are happy living by candle light & a would go back to the horse & cart. |  | | |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:45 - Nov 25 with 3128 views | factual_blue |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:43 - Nov 25 by WD19 |
Of course, but what if the highest bidders are from within the EU27 and they have collectively agreed they won't buy our eggs? Seems like it might be a good idea to do a deal with that trading bloc so we have a better chance of shifting our eggs.....no!? |
If they see what J2 does to eggs, they'd run a mile. |  |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:48 - Nov 25 with 3120 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
Did you vote in the referendum ? |  |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:49 - Nov 25 with 3109 views | factual_blue |
What are your needs? | |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:56 - Nov 25 with 3087 views | noggin |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:49 - Nov 25 by factual_blue |
What are your needs? |
The death penalty for remainers. |  |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:00 - Nov 25 with 3090 views | factual_blue |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:56 - Nov 25 by noggin |
The death penalty for remainers. |
So Burwell Blue is Cardinal Jakob Reek-Snob then? | |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:04 - Nov 25 with 3073 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Exactly why the referendum was such a bad idea!
You don't understand the 'brexit thingy... but I assume you voted to leave? |  |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:05 - Nov 25 with 3069 views | Herbivore |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:48 - Nov 25 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
Did you vote in the referendum ? |
If so I wonder which way he voted. |  |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:05 - Nov 25 with 3068 views | XYZ |
I don't know about that.
I reckon you're just over the average UK intelligence. Just outside the top 48.1% I'd guess. | | | |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:07 - Nov 25 with 3055 views | Burwell_Blue |
No I didn’t vote. In fact, I’ve never voted. | | | |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:07 - Nov 25 with 3055 views | Binner |
Why do you *need* the death penalty? |  |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:08 - Nov 25 with 3051 views | Burwell_Blue |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:07 - Nov 25 by Binner |
Why do you *need* the death penalty? |
It’s something I’m in favour of, not everyone would agree I’m sure but it provides a little backdrop as to my political leanings. | | | |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:09 - Nov 25 with 3046 views | Burwell_Blue |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 18:43 - Nov 25 by J2BLUE |
What if someone on the dole has been paying their taxes and national insurance for 40 years? |
Well then they would want to find a job ASAP or find themselves helping their local community with a litter picker? What do you suggest? | | | |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:11 - Nov 25 with 3044 views | Trequartista |
If there is a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, this will contravene the Belfast Agreement which appeased the IRA. So potentially the Troubles could return. |  |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:12 - Nov 25 with 3029 views | Burwell_Blue |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:11 - Nov 25 by Trequartista |
If there is a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, this will contravene the Belfast Agreement which appeased the IRA. So potentially the Troubles could return. |
Hand NI back to Ireland? What are the pros and cons there? | | | |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:14 - Nov 25 with 3012 views | noggin |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:12 - Nov 25 by Burwell_Blue |
Hand NI back to Ireland? What are the pros and cons there? |
What, and go against the democratic will of the people. Radical idea. | |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:15 - Nov 25 with 3017 views | Funge |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:11 - Nov 25 by Trequartista |
If there is a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, this will contravene the Belfast Agreement which appeased the IRA. So potentially the Troubles could return. |
Nothing 'potential' about it. |  | | |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:17 - Nov 25 with 3006 views | Jonnosdreadlocks |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:12 - Nov 25 by Burwell_Blue |
Hand NI back to Ireland? What are the pros and cons there? |
Under International Law, all the people of NI have the right to be UK passport holders and or ROI passport holders hence NI has this ' special' case that the ROI and EU have exploited in the negotiations. Just like it doesn't have mainstream UK parties standing there and its legal to own a licenced hand gun there although not in the rest of the UK. |  |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:20 - Nov 25 with 2984 views | noggin |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:17 - Nov 25 by Jonnosdreadlocks |
Under International Law, all the people of NI have the right to be UK passport holders and or ROI passport holders hence NI has this ' special' case that the ROI and EU have exploited in the negotiations. Just like it doesn't have mainstream UK parties standing there and its legal to own a licenced hand gun there although not in the rest of the UK. |
What do you mean by "international law"? | |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:35 - Nov 25 with 2945 views | Guthrum |
| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:12 - Nov 25 by Burwell_Blue |
Hand NI back to Ireland? What are the pros and cons there? |
Technically, it's not 'handing back', given the Six Counties opted not to join the Irish Free State when it separated from the UK in 1921. Ulster was not part of a genuine united Ireland before the English arrived (despite what some of the High Kings liked to proclaim).
So it would be unilaterally handing over to a foreign country a province which has consistently shown a majority in favour of remaining in the UK. That's assuming the Irish would have them (Unionists and all).
Pros - there's a chance we may lose a difficult situation.
Cons - endless negotiations over who pays for what, civil war in a neighbouring country, a Loyalist bombing campaign in mainland UK, Scotland attempting to secede, international scorn, diminished diplomatic influence. |  |
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| Brexit for simpletons. on 19:39 - Nov 25 with 2936 views | Guthrum |
We close our borders, trade grinds to a halt (clogged by red tape, if nothing else), lots of UK businesses go bust.
Plus, who else do we start dealing with, rather than our current largest trading partner, the rest of the EU? So we'd still need a deal, similar to what the government are struggling to achieve now. With conditions - for example Norway pays into the EU and has to accept free movement of people (including workers). | |
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