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That Facebook page is a giant shizshow of made up guff and puerile nonsense btw so I'm not expecting any.
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
Well, I'm sure a facebook back called 'being liberterian' is a wholly reliable source of unbiased opinion and not at all some made-up far-right horsesh*t.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 14:30 - Nov 30 by SpruceMoose
More details please.
That Facebook page is a giant shizshow of made up guff and puerile nonsense btw so I'm not expecting any.
[Post edited 30 Nov 2018 14:34]
I love libertarians, always very keen on reducing government interference in people's lives, until those people happen to be women, foreign, LGBTQ, poor or not white.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 14:36 - Nov 30 by BlueBadger
I love libertarians, always very keen on reducing government interference in people's lives, until those people happen to be women, foreign, LGBTQ, poor or not white.
Indeed. Likewise, see Right wingers blasting the Left for their supposed love of identity politics, when it's the Right who seem to be obsessed with interfering in the lives of anyone who identifies as other than White, Male and Christian.
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 14:40 - Nov 30 by Marshalls_Mullet
I don't see why it should be an offence.
People can have valid views that are against mass immigration, and should be able to voice them.
The whole document, which isn't legally binding is essentially a code of conduct regarding hate crime regarding migrants. 'You can criticise mass immigration all you like, just don't be a d1ck about it' is basically what it's saying.
(From the FB page in question):
'FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION PURPOSES: Currently, there is a debate emerging about whether criticizing migration will become a crime under the Intergovernmental Conference to Adopt the Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration, set to be agreed in Morocco on December 10-11 2018. The document is not legally-binding, so it will have no direct legal effect, but governments that sign it are agreeing to endeavor to implement the proposal's commitments. In light of the emerging debate, it seems prudent to provide the text. With the text, one can draw their own conclusions - based on precedent and the text - about what it will likely entail in practice. What follows is the text the relevant part of the proposal (M): ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Objective 17: Eliminate all forms of discrimination and promote evidence-based public discourse to shape perceptions of migration 33. We commit to eliminate all forms of discrimination, condemn and counter expressions, acts and manifestations of racism, racial discrimination, violence, xenophobia and related intolerance against all migrants in conformity with international human rights law. We further commit to promote an open and evidence-based public discourse on migration and migrants in partnership with all parts of society, that generates a more realistic, humane and constructive perception in this regard. We also commit to protect freedom of expression in accordance with international law, recognizing that an open and free debate contributes to a comprehensive understanding of all aspects of migration. To realize this commitment, we will draw from the following actions: (a) Enact, implement or maintain legislation that penalizes hate crimes and aggravated hate crimes targeting migrants, and train law enforcement and other public officials to identify, prevent and respond to such crimes and other acts of violence that target migrants, as well as to provide medical, legal and psychosocial assistance for victims; (b) Empower migrants and communities to denounce any acts of incitement to violence directed towards migrants by informing them of available mechanisms for redress, and ensure that those who actively participate in the commission of a hate crime targeting migrants are held accountable, in accordance with national legislation, while upholding international human rights law, in particular the right to freedom of expression; (c) Promote independent, objective and quality reporting of media outlets, including Internet-based information, including by sensitizing and educating media professionals on migration-related issues and terminology, investing in ethical reporting standards and advertising, and stopping allocation of public funding or material support to media outlets that systematically promote intolerance, xenophobia, racism and other forms of discrimination towards migrants, in full respect for the freedom of the media; (d) Establish mechanisms to prevent, detect and respond to racial, ethnic and religious profiling of migrants by public authorities, as well as systematic instances of intolerance, xenophobia, racism and all other multiple and intersecting forms of discrimination, in partnership with national human rights institutions, including by tracking and publishing trend analyses, and ensuring access to effective complaint and redress mechanisms; (e) Provide migrants, especially migrant women, with access to national and regional complaint and redress mechanisms with a view to promoting accountability and addressing governmental actions related to discriminatory acts and manifestations carried out against migrants and their families; (f) Promote awareness-raising campaigns targeted at communities of origin, transit and destination in order to inform public perceptions regarding the positive contributions of safe, orderly and regular migration, based on evidence and facts, and to end racism, xenophobia and stigmatization against all migrants; (g) Engage migrants, political, religious and community leaders, as well as educators and service providers, to detect and prevent incidences of intolerance, racism, xenophobia and other forms of discrimination against migrants and diasporas, and support activities in local communities to promote mutual respect, including in the context of electoral campaigns.'
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 14:46 - Nov 30 by BlueBadger
The whole document, which isn't legally binding is essentially a code of conduct regarding hate crime regarding migrants. 'You can criticise mass immigration all you like, just don't be a d1ck about it' is basically what it's saying.
(From the FB page in question):
'FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION PURPOSES: Currently, there is a debate emerging about whether criticizing migration will become a crime under the Intergovernmental Conference to Adopt the Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration, set to be agreed in Morocco on December 10-11 2018. The document is not legally-binding, so it will have no direct legal effect, but governments that sign it are agreeing to endeavor to implement the proposal's commitments. In light of the emerging debate, it seems prudent to provide the text. With the text, one can draw their own conclusions - based on precedent and the text - about what it will likely entail in practice. What follows is the text the relevant part of the proposal (M): ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Objective 17: Eliminate all forms of discrimination and promote evidence-based public discourse to shape perceptions of migration 33. We commit to eliminate all forms of discrimination, condemn and counter expressions, acts and manifestations of racism, racial discrimination, violence, xenophobia and related intolerance against all migrants in conformity with international human rights law. We further commit to promote an open and evidence-based public discourse on migration and migrants in partnership with all parts of society, that generates a more realistic, humane and constructive perception in this regard. We also commit to protect freedom of expression in accordance with international law, recognizing that an open and free debate contributes to a comprehensive understanding of all aspects of migration. To realize this commitment, we will draw from the following actions: (a) Enact, implement or maintain legislation that penalizes hate crimes and aggravated hate crimes targeting migrants, and train law enforcement and other public officials to identify, prevent and respond to such crimes and other acts of violence that target migrants, as well as to provide medical, legal and psychosocial assistance for victims; (b) Empower migrants and communities to denounce any acts of incitement to violence directed towards migrants by informing them of available mechanisms for redress, and ensure that those who actively participate in the commission of a hate crime targeting migrants are held accountable, in accordance with national legislation, while upholding international human rights law, in particular the right to freedom of expression; (c) Promote independent, objective and quality reporting of media outlets, including Internet-based information, including by sensitizing and educating media professionals on migration-related issues and terminology, investing in ethical reporting standards and advertising, and stopping allocation of public funding or material support to media outlets that systematically promote intolerance, xenophobia, racism and other forms of discrimination towards migrants, in full respect for the freedom of the media; (d) Establish mechanisms to prevent, detect and respond to racial, ethnic and religious profiling of migrants by public authorities, as well as systematic instances of intolerance, xenophobia, racism and all other multiple and intersecting forms of discrimination, in partnership with national human rights institutions, including by tracking and publishing trend analyses, and ensuring access to effective complaint and redress mechanisms; (e) Provide migrants, especially migrant women, with access to national and regional complaint and redress mechanisms with a view to promoting accountability and addressing governmental actions related to discriminatory acts and manifestations carried out against migrants and their families; (f) Promote awareness-raising campaigns targeted at communities of origin, transit and destination in order to inform public perceptions regarding the positive contributions of safe, orderly and regular migration, based on evidence and facts, and to end racism, xenophobia and stigmatization against all migrants; (g) Engage migrants, political, religious and community leaders, as well as educators and service providers, to detect and prevent incidences of intolerance, racism, xenophobia and other forms of discrimination against migrants and diasporas, and support activities in local communities to promote mutual respect, including in the context of electoral campaigns.'
I'm not reading all that. It's easier to just whine about straight bananas being forced down my throat and the EU taking away our freedoms. And if I'm not respected for this course of action you'll be to blame when enough of the likes of me get together and collectively punch the country in the balls.
- Mr Ivor Smallone from Beccles.
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 14:46 - Nov 30 by BlueBadger
The whole document, which isn't legally binding is essentially a code of conduct regarding hate crime regarding migrants. 'You can criticise mass immigration all you like, just don't be a d1ck about it' is basically what it's saying.
(From the FB page in question):
'FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION PURPOSES: Currently, there is a debate emerging about whether criticizing migration will become a crime under the Intergovernmental Conference to Adopt the Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration, set to be agreed in Morocco on December 10-11 2018. The document is not legally-binding, so it will have no direct legal effect, but governments that sign it are agreeing to endeavor to implement the proposal's commitments. In light of the emerging debate, it seems prudent to provide the text. With the text, one can draw their own conclusions - based on precedent and the text - about what it will likely entail in practice. What follows is the text the relevant part of the proposal (M): ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Objective 17: Eliminate all forms of discrimination and promote evidence-based public discourse to shape perceptions of migration 33. We commit to eliminate all forms of discrimination, condemn and counter expressions, acts and manifestations of racism, racial discrimination, violence, xenophobia and related intolerance against all migrants in conformity with international human rights law. We further commit to promote an open and evidence-based public discourse on migration and migrants in partnership with all parts of society, that generates a more realistic, humane and constructive perception in this regard. We also commit to protect freedom of expression in accordance with international law, recognizing that an open and free debate contributes to a comprehensive understanding of all aspects of migration. To realize this commitment, we will draw from the following actions: (a) Enact, implement or maintain legislation that penalizes hate crimes and aggravated hate crimes targeting migrants, and train law enforcement and other public officials to identify, prevent and respond to such crimes and other acts of violence that target migrants, as well as to provide medical, legal and psychosocial assistance for victims; (b) Empower migrants and communities to denounce any acts of incitement to violence directed towards migrants by informing them of available mechanisms for redress, and ensure that those who actively participate in the commission of a hate crime targeting migrants are held accountable, in accordance with national legislation, while upholding international human rights law, in particular the right to freedom of expression; (c) Promote independent, objective and quality reporting of media outlets, including Internet-based information, including by sensitizing and educating media professionals on migration-related issues and terminology, investing in ethical reporting standards and advertising, and stopping allocation of public funding or material support to media outlets that systematically promote intolerance, xenophobia, racism and other forms of discrimination towards migrants, in full respect for the freedom of the media; (d) Establish mechanisms to prevent, detect and respond to racial, ethnic and religious profiling of migrants by public authorities, as well as systematic instances of intolerance, xenophobia, racism and all other multiple and intersecting forms of discrimination, in partnership with national human rights institutions, including by tracking and publishing trend analyses, and ensuring access to effective complaint and redress mechanisms; (e) Provide migrants, especially migrant women, with access to national and regional complaint and redress mechanisms with a view to promoting accountability and addressing governmental actions related to discriminatory acts and manifestations carried out against migrants and their families; (f) Promote awareness-raising campaigns targeted at communities of origin, transit and destination in order to inform public perceptions regarding the positive contributions of safe, orderly and regular migration, based on evidence and facts, and to end racism, xenophobia and stigmatization against all migrants; (g) Engage migrants, political, religious and community leaders, as well as educators and service providers, to detect and prevent incidences of intolerance, racism, xenophobia and other forms of discrimination against migrants and diasporas, and support activities in local communities to promote mutual respect, including in the context of electoral campaigns.'
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 14:57 - Nov 30 by Marshalls_Mullet
That sounds more sensible.
Much of the negativity around the EU that the tabloid press has been farting out for decades boils down gross misrepresentations of unspectacular regulations.
Look into the details and most folk would probably say 'Huh, that's pretty sensible actually'.
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 15:00 - Nov 30 by BlueBadger
It's almost like the OP was panicking over some untrue scaremongering b0llocks out out by a bunch of hard right liars.
Or playing to the Benters and Pickles crowd for those delicious moans of 'I make you right'.
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 15:05 - Nov 30 by SpruceMoose
Or playing to the Benters and Pickles crowd for those delicious moans of 'I make you right'.
I suspect that the OP, having nothing to troll about in his username's pet subject at the moment is now going to go down the old TB-tribute act route of 'say something rightwing and easily debunked and then run away' tactic instead.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 15:05 - Nov 30 by Currie10
Don't say that to the left, christ alive do not say that to the left.
oh we should have a world without borders! John Lennon was right man! Why bother work in our 3rd world khazi of a country to make it better and build a stronger economy when we can just immigrate to western countries and pretending to be refugees. Come on, Gary Lineker, JK Rowling, Lilly Allen said they would put us up...
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 15:34 - Nov 30 by Jonnosdreadlocks
oh we should have a world without borders! John Lennon was right man! Why bother work in our 3rd world khazi of a country to make it better and build a stronger economy when we can just immigrate to western countries and pretending to be refugees. Come on, Gary Lineker, JK Rowling, Lilly Allen said they would put us up...
I've heard wet farts make more sense than you.
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 15:34 - Nov 30 by Jonnosdreadlocks
oh we should have a world without borders! John Lennon was right man! Why bother work in our 3rd world khazi of a country to make it better and build a stronger economy when we can just immigrate to western countries and pretending to be refugees. Come on, Gary Lineker, JK Rowling, Lilly Allen said they would put us up...
I presume as you're in favour of making poor countries better to reduce your risk of having your day ruined by seeing a brown person in the street, you'll be calling for increases to the foreign aid budget?
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 14:51 - Nov 30 by SpruceMoose
I'm not reading all that. It's easier to just whine about straight bananas being forced down my throat and the EU taking away our freedoms. And if I'm not respected for this course of action you'll be to blame when enough of the likes of me get together and collectively punch the country in the balls.
- Mr Ivor Smallone from Beccles.
Yep, here they all come, getting themselves wound up about something that isn't happening and wasn't proposed. And it's lefties who are over-sensitve snowflakes taking offence at the slightest excuse.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 15:39 - Nov 30 by Benters2
You fancy me dont you be honest?
Well Benters, I think that's just wishful thinking on your behalf. You can call me 'Hun' and give me as many x's as you like, but I'm just not that into you, soz.
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 15:16 - Nov 30 by BlueBadger
I suspect that the OP, having nothing to troll about in his username's pet subject at the moment is now going to go down the old TB-tribute act route of 'say something rightwing and easily debunked and then run away' tactic instead.
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Oh do pipe down Nurse ffs.
There must be a patient who needs their temp taken shirley?
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Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 15:41 - Nov 30 by Benters2
Oh do pipe down Nurse ffs.
There must be a patient who needs their temp taken shirley?
Surely there's a bush that needs trimming? Off you pop, Forest.
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 15:20 - Nov 30 by BlueBadger
...because they'll point out that the OP is talking b0llocks and really there's nothing to be scared of?
(Either in the document or about foreigners).
No they'll just insert long word and repeat it over, over and over again.
If you want to have any voice about immigration it makes you a right wing neo nazi facist somehow. Cannot really make it up, but that's the left for you.
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Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 15:49 - Nov 30 with 2110 views
Should anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence.. on 15:48 - Nov 30 by Currie10
No they'll just insert long word and repeat it over, over and over again.
If you want to have any voice about immigration it makes you a right wing neo nazi facist somehow. Cannot really make it up, but that's the left for you.
You could try actually reading the posts before you guff off, you know. This is the short version thus far:
1) The EU has agreed that anti-immigration sentiments be a criminal offence, as well as aiming to bring in laws shutting down media outlets that oppose mass immigration.
2) No they haven't.
3) What they're basically saying is 'You can criticise mass immigration all you like, just don't be a d1ck about it'.
4) Jonno and Currie have a meltdown.
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