| May survives (n/t) 21:01 - Dec 12 with 4751 views | itfcjoe |
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| May survives (n/t) on 21:48 - Dec 12 with 1446 views | jimmyvet |
| May survives (n/t) on 21:33 - Dec 12 by stig4532 |
Over 160 Tory MPs are on the Government payroll (having a direct role in government policy) so 117 'independent' MPs is a substantial number, irrespective of my first point.
TM has proven she cannot command a majority in the House, therefore she should resign |
A bit like when I think over 170 versus 40 Labour MPS voted No confidence for the great leader did he resign? I don’t think so May wins by a huge majority and you think she should resign no wonder Diane Abbott has such support amongst the hard left and their strange arithmetic!! |  | | |
| May survives (n/t) on 21:49 - Dec 12 with 1442 views | BloomBlue |
| May survives (n/t) on 21:33 - Dec 12 by stig4532 |
Over 160 Tory MPs are on the Government payroll (having a direct role in government policy) so 117 'independent' MPs is a substantial number, irrespective of my first point.
TM has proven she cannot command a majority in the House, therefore she should resign |
Isn't that a good thing for democracy? |  | | |
| May survives (n/t) on 21:56 - Dec 12 with 1420 views | stig4532 |
| May survives (n/t) on 21:48 - Dec 12 by jimmyvet |
A bit like when I think over 170 versus 40 Labour MPS voted No confidence for the great leader did he resign? I don’t think so May wins by a huge majority and you think she should resign no wonder Diane Abbott has such support amongst the hard left and their strange arithmetic!! |
Corbyn won because the members backed him. Tory rules are different.
And I'm not even left wing? |  | | |
| May survives (n/t) on 21:58 - Dec 12 with 1411 views | m14_blue |
| May survives (n/t) on 21:33 - Dec 12 by stig4532 |
Over 160 Tory MPs are on the Government payroll (having a direct role in government policy) so 117 'independent' MPs is a substantial number, irrespective of my first point.
TM has proven she cannot command a majority in the House, therefore she should resign |
Oh dear, clinging to JRM’s desperate reasoning.
It was a secret ballot. | | | |
| May survives (n/t) on 22:25 - Dec 12 with 1366 views | BloomBlue |
| May survives (n/t) on 21:45 - Dec 12 by Guthrum |
Obviously we only have what MPs who were in the Committee Room have revealed. However most seem to agree that she pledged to stand down before the next scheduled General Election, but refused to say she would go if one happened earlier. |
Well that's probably because as it stand she'll be the one calling the next general election. | | | |
| May survives (n/t) on 22:52 - Dec 12 with 1343 views | jimmyvet |
| May survives (n/t) on 21:56 - Dec 12 by stig4532 |
Corbyn won because the members backed him. Tory rules are different.
And I'm not even left wing? |
Yes but 172 of his colleagues who have the displeasure of working with him and his team daily realise how hopeless he is and want him out clearly or have they all changed their mind? Just find it strange May wins a vote with a thumping majority and she should resign Corbyn loses a vote with a thumping majority and you believe that’s fine, the politics of madness and Diane Abbott! | | | |
| May survives (n/t) on 23:14 - Dec 12 with 1321 views | XYZ |
| May survives (n/t) on 22:52 - Dec 12 by jimmyvet |
Yes but 172 of his colleagues who have the displeasure of working with him and his team daily realise how hopeless he is and want him out clearly or have they all changed their mind? Just find it strange May wins a vote with a thumping majority and she should resign Corbyn loses a vote with a thumping majority and you believe that’s fine, the politics of madness and Diane Abbott! |
It's about following rules - applying laws.
The vote against Corbyn was of no consequence under Labour Part rules - it was an opinion poll.
The vote against May was part of the Tory Party constitution - i.e. "real".
When was this vote against Corbyn by the way? | | | |
| May survives (n/t) on 07:53 - Dec 13 with 1245 views | GlasgowBlue |
| May survives (n/t) on 23:14 - Dec 12 by XYZ |
It's about following rules - applying laws.
The vote against Corbyn was of no consequence under Labour Part rules - it was an opinion poll.
The vote against May was part of the Tory Party constitution - i.e. "real".
When was this vote against Corbyn by the way? |
Of course a no confidence vote in the Labour Party has consequences. Under both Labour and Tory party rules, a vote of no confidence triggers a leadership election. The only difference is that in the Tory party the incumbent does not automatically go onto the ballot to face the members whereas Labour ruled in 2016 that he or she does.
Of course the Corbyn case was unprecedented, as normally any party leader with a shred of dignity resigns when they have lost the confidence of their parliamentary colleagues. |  |
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| May survives (n/t) on 08:23 - Dec 13 with 1221 views | StokieBlue |
| May survives (n/t) on 07:53 - Dec 13 by GlasgowBlue |
Of course a no confidence vote in the Labour Party has consequences. Under both Labour and Tory party rules, a vote of no confidence triggers a leadership election. The only difference is that in the Tory party the incumbent does not automatically go onto the ballot to face the members whereas Labour ruled in 2016 that he or she does.
Of course the Corbyn case was unprecedented, as normally any party leader with a shred of dignity resigns when they have lost the confidence of their parliamentary colleagues. |
McDonnell was just called out on this exactly point on Radio 5.
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| May survives (n/t) on 08:27 - Dec 13 with 1215 views | GlasgowBlue |
| May survives (n/t) on 08:23 - Dec 13 by StokieBlue |
McDonnell was just called out on this exactly point on Radio 5.
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And they are rightly being called out over their hypocrisy.
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| May survives (n/t) on 08:35 - Dec 13 with 1202 views | chicoazul |
| May survives (n/t) on 08:27 - Dec 13 by GlasgowBlue |
And they are rightly being called out over their hypocrisy.
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Haha that's great.
As I said the other day, it's all very funny watching the ERG wingnuts twisting themselves in linguistic knots trying to justify how on the one hand May winning pretty narrowly means she should go while Leave winning pretty narrowly means we should leave. |  |
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| May survives (n/t) on 09:10 - Dec 13 with 1178 views | factual_blue |
| May survives (n/t) on 21:11 - Dec 12 by Reuser_is_God |
The great escape.
A good omen for ITFC? |
How many prisoners actually escaped in The Great Escape?
Of the 76 men who escaped, 3 made it home to the UK. 23 were recaptured and sent back to Sagan. Hitler personally ordered the execution of the other 50 men. The commandant of Stalag Luft III, Lindeiner, was court-martialed by the Gestapo for not preventing the escape. |  |
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