| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. 06:12 - Dec 14 with 39018 views | Benters2 |
Thats the way to do it..the locals came out of their house's and clapped the Policemen.
Fantastic news. [Post edited 14 Dec 2018 6:14]
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:19 - Dec 14 with 2876 views | 26_Paz |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 10:40 - Dec 14 by bluelagos |
The rights and wrongs of using torture to gain information that could save other lives is a whole new ethical debate.
But I'll put it like this, if by taking a terrorist alive, there is a 1% chance of preventing another serious attack (through legal interrogation) why would anyone sensible prefer to see them dead? |
Agree its better to capture them although I would advocate the beating the sh!t out of them approach to getting them to talk (if they are guilty beyond all doubt). |  |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:21 - Dec 14 with 2863 views | SpruceMoose |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:19 - Dec 14 by 26_Paz |
Agree its better to capture them although I would advocate the beating the sh!t out of them approach to getting them to talk (if they are guilty beyond all doubt). |
You don't get valid info from torture. They just tell you whatever they think you want to hear to get you to stop hurting them.
Not only that, but stress can negatively impact detail recall. All in all, you can't trust anything that you get as a result from torture.
An interesting read - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-interrogated-brain/201603/why-tortur [Post edited 14 Dec 2018 14:25]
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:27 - Dec 14 with 2839 views | Herbivore |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:21 - Dec 14 by SpruceMoose |
You don't get valid info from torture. They just tell you whatever they think you want to hear to get you to stop hurting them.
Not only that, but stress can negatively impact detail recall. All in all, you can't trust anything that you get as a result from torture.
An interesting read - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-interrogated-brain/201603/why-tortur [Post edited 14 Dec 2018 14:25]
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I don't think he's especially motivated by the idea of getting useful info out of it. |  |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:28 - Dec 14 with 2843 views | m14_blue |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:19 - Dec 14 by 26_Paz |
Agree its better to capture them although I would advocate the beating the sh!t out of them approach to getting them to talk (if they are guilty beyond all doubt). |
Torture has no place in a civilised society.
We should leave that sort of thing to IS and the like. | | | |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:30 - Dec 14 with 2833 views | SpruceMoose |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:27 - Dec 14 by Herbivore |
I don't think he's especially motivated by the idea of getting useful info out of it. |
Well if what we are talking about is vengeance then let's call it that.
I would worry for the long term mental welfare of the torturer too. How many people who are all for the torture would be willing to actually carry it out, or even able to? | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:32 - Dec 14 with 2823 views | Herbivore |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:28 - Dec 14 by m14_blue |
Torture has no place in a civilised society.
We should leave that sort of thing to IS and the like. |
I do find it ironic that those who are most vocal about wanting to protect are country from Islams usually have more in common with the values of IS than they do with the values of their own civilised society. [Post edited 14 Dec 2018 14:35]
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:33 - Dec 14 with 2815 views | Herbivore |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:30 - Dec 14 by SpruceMoose |
Well if what we are talking about is vengeance then let's call it that.
I would worry for the long term mental welfare of the torturer too. How many people who are all for the torture would be willing to actually carry it out, or even able to? |
I could do it if it was Bono or Boris Johnson in line to be tortured. I think I'd struggle otherwise. | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:34 - Dec 14 with 2817 views | SpruceMoose |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:32 - Dec 14 by Herbivore |
I do find it ironic that those who are most vocal about wanting to protect are country from Islams usually have more in common with the values of IS than they do with the values of their own civilised society. [Post edited 14 Dec 2018 14:35]
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Yes that is strange. Similarly, those who often claim to be most proud of their country are the very people that the rest of the country are most ashamed of. | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:36 - Dec 14 with 2811 views | SpruceMoose |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:33 - Dec 14 by Herbivore |
I could do it if it was Bono or Boris Johnson in line to be tortured. I think I'd struggle otherwise. |
I reckon you could have a good bash on JRM if you put your mind to it. | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:38 - Dec 14 with 2806 views | Herbivore |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:34 - Dec 14 by SpruceMoose |
Yes that is strange. Similarly, those who often claim to be most proud of their country are the very people that the rest of the country are most ashamed of. |
True. They also have no genuine pride in their country, just look at Benters lauding the French and doing the UK down. If he loves France so much he should go and live there. Oh wait, he can't because he voted Brexit and we'll no longer have the right to live and work there. | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:39 - Dec 14 with 2803 views | Herbivore |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:36 - Dec 14 by SpruceMoose |
I reckon you could have a good bash on JRM if you put your mind to it. |
I mean, he probably believes in torture so that kind of makes it okay. | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:41 - Dec 14 with 2800 views | SpruceMoose |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:38 - Dec 14 by Herbivore |
True. They also have no genuine pride in their country, just look at Benters lauding the French and doing the UK down. If he loves France so much he should go and live there. Oh wait, he can't because he voted Brexit and we'll no longer have the right to live and work there. |
Should have a little bit more respect for our UK police force if you ask me, especially considering all of the cuts they've suffered during the Conservative's time in power.
Let's be honest though, the only reason this thread was started is because some blokes just can't help getting a stiffy when a brown bloke gets killed. | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:53 - Dec 14 with 2783 views | J2BLUE |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:28 - Dec 14 by m14_blue |
Torture has no place in a civilised society.
We should leave that sort of thing to IS and the like. |
If torture actually worked I would disagree. |  |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:55 - Dec 14 with 2773 views | SpruceMoose |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:53 - Dec 14 by J2BLUE |
If torture actually worked I would disagree. |
We'd be no better than them. | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:57 - Dec 14 with 2773 views | 26_Paz |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:53 - Dec 14 by J2BLUE |
If torture actually worked I would disagree. |
Get whatever information out of them we can, however we can, then hang them. Simple. They are traitors and should be treated as such. | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:58 - Dec 14 with 2768 views | footers |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:57 - Dec 14 by 26_Paz |
Get whatever information out of them we can, however we can, then hang them. Simple. They are traitors and should be treated as such. |
Is the Caliphate sunny this time of year? |  |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:59 - Dec 14 with 2764 views | J2BLUE |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:57 - Dec 14 by 26_Paz |
Get whatever information out of them we can, however we can, then hang them. Simple. They are traitors and should be treated as such. |
Torture doesn't work and the death penalty isn't a deterrent. | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 15:00 - Dec 14 with 2759 views | 26_Paz |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:58 - Dec 14 by footers |
Is the Caliphate sunny this time of year? |
Need to be tough on them ... maybe then we wouldn't see so many terrorist attacks | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 15:00 - Dec 14 with 2754 views | SpruceMoose |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:57 - Dec 14 by 26_Paz |
Get whatever information out of them we can, however we can, then hang them. Simple. They are traitors and should be treated as such. |
I presume you'd be happy to volunteer to carry all that out yourself? Seems like a lot to ask of someone else. | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 15:02 - Dec 14 with 2751 views | 26_Paz |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 15:00 - Dec 14 by SpruceMoose |
I presume you'd be happy to volunteer to carry all that out yourself? Seems like a lot to ask of someone else. |
Wouldn't want to do it myself ... sure we could train up some special forces veterans who are more used to that kind of thing. Would obviously need to monitor their mental health and look after them etc | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 15:03 - Dec 14 with 2748 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
It's almost like they barely have enough resources to stay above water.
By the way, perhaps you don't realise the sheer variety of crimes that count towards those statistics.
'My wheelie bin has gone missing' - theft.
'It looks like someone pulled on my car door handle over night' - vehicle interference.
'Someone has broken into my garden shed over the last 6 weeks' - burglary.
Do you expect the 'useless' police force to thoroughly investigate and catch the culprit for all of the probably hundreds of thousands of crimes that are recorded every year along these lines?
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 15:03 - Dec 14 with 2743 views | SpruceMoose |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 15:00 - Dec 14 by 26_Paz |
Need to be tough on them ... maybe then we wouldn't see so many terrorist attacks |
Um...you think the source of terrorist attacks is the UK not being tough enough with Middle Eastern countries and people from those regions? | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 15:04 - Dec 14 with 2735 views | J2BLUE |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 14:58 - Dec 14 by footers |
Is the Caliphate sunny this time of year? |
No its Shiite | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 15:04 - Dec 14 with 2734 views | SpruceMoose |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 15:02 - Dec 14 by 26_Paz |
Wouldn't want to do it myself ... sure we could train up some special forces veterans who are more used to that kind of thing. Would obviously need to monitor their mental health and look after them etc |
I'd prefer to not have murder squads in the UK myself. | |
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| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 15:05 - Dec 14 with 2731 views | 26_Paz |
| The Strasbourg market gunman has been killed by Police. on 15:03 - Dec 14 by SpruceMoose |
Um...you think the source of terrorist attacks is the UK not being tough enough with Middle Eastern countries and people from those regions? |
Obviously there are loads of reasons. I think a tougher approach to dealing with home grown terrorists would reduce the number of attacks | |
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