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This is good. 08:18 - Dec 17 with 831 viewsWeekender

http://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2018/12/as-brexit-realities-bite-brexite

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This is good. on 08:44 - Dec 17 with 790 viewsbluelagos

I read a report earlier that property asking prices in the South East are now 10k down in just 3 months.

Land Rover shedding jobs too.

Why anyone still thinks this is a good idea when lie after lie have been shown up...
[Post edited 17 Dec 2018 9:17]

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This is good. on 08:48 - Dec 17 with 786 viewsSteve_M

Grey has been consistently good at summarising the mess of Brexit.

And, as referenced at the end there, Ivan Roger's speech last week was very good at capturing the fallacies of pretty much everyone involved in this debate:

https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2018/12/13/full-speech-sir-ivan-rogers-on-brexit/

Rawnsley is good on the political situation this weekend too:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/16/failed-by-both-major-parti

That Labour remain less electable than the utter sh1tshow of a government is utterly tragic. Predictably so but tragic nevertheless.

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This is good. on 09:03 - Dec 17 with 761 viewsNo9

This is good. on 08:44 - Dec 17 by bluelagos

I read a report earlier that property asking prices in the South East are now 10k down in just 3 months.

Land Rover shedding jobs too.

Why anyone still thinks this is a good idea when lie after lie have been shown up...
[Post edited 17 Dec 2018 9:17]


& there are a whole number of businesses across the spectrum notifying of a serious downturn including online retailers like Asos
A healthcare Co on the brink, car sales down significantly, Superdry, restaurants, pubs closing at an alarming rate
Mike Ashleys comemnts on Debenhams won't give any Cristmas cheer
Retailers estimate 85k jobs on the line at the moment

& as the rest of the world potentially going into recession this isn't a good time to be screwing the country.

How do we stop these idiot politicians?
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This is good. on 09:47 - Dec 17 with 712 viewsShropshireBluenago09

The housing market fluctuates constantly and 10k I the South Eat is peanuts

Gus Uhlenbeek

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This is good. on 10:04 - Dec 17 with 695 viewsNo9

This is good. on 08:48 - Dec 17 by Steve_M

Grey has been consistently good at summarising the mess of Brexit.

And, as referenced at the end there, Ivan Roger's speech last week was very good at capturing the fallacies of pretty much everyone involved in this debate:

https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2018/12/13/full-speech-sir-ivan-rogers-on-brexit/

Rawnsley is good on the political situation this weekend too:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/16/failed-by-both-major-parti

That Labour remain less electable than the utter sh1tshow of a government is utterly tragic. Predictably so but tragic nevertheless.


The fixed term parliament makes it difficult to challenge the governemtn = it was brought in to protect minority governments wasn't it?

For any party to call a vote of no confidence now would fail and be more likely to bring about the hard brexit no-one wanted

The tories are now split 3 ways, labour - do they want a new leader to find a new way?
As the lib-dems have become the only party (+ greens) campaining to stay & they are not increasing in popularity what is the answer?

Cameron stitched this up nice & neatly for the 'ruling party' didn't he?
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This is good. on 13:32 - Dec 17 with 639 viewsFreddies_Ears

The OP link is a very, very good analysis and explanation. Spot on. It's really a matter of taking a step back and considering issues through other people's eyes!
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This is good. on 13:48 - Dec 17 with 626 viewsDarth_Koont

This is good. on 13:32 - Dec 17 by Freddies_Ears

The OP link is a very, very good analysis and explanation. Spot on. It's really a matter of taking a step back and considering issues through other people's eyes!


Agreed. But looking at it through May, Davis et al's eyes you come to the conclusion that they were either unaware of the reality and therefore incompetent, they were aware of the reality and lied for personal and political gain or, as is most likely, they're a bunch of incompetent liars.

I just hope that there's enough awakening going on as we get closer to the deadline so that the appetite for a no-deal is all but gone and we can even have a vote to remain and step back from the brink.

I also can't believe anyone would contemplate another 5-10 years of this mess as we get tied up in trade negotiations around the world. No-one voted for that back in 2016 even if they were a rabid outer.
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Nice and concise on 13:52 - Dec 17 with 621 viewsDyland

"... since the outset the government has approached the negotiations as if it is for the EU to come up with ways of delivering what the UK wants. The long months in which Britain failed to table proposals is evidence of this, and of something even more problematic: that the UK couldn’t, and still cannot, agree what it wants. Instead, all Britain has really done is stated the things it doesn’t want and left it to the EU to fashion a deal consistent with that – May’s deal - which is now being rejected as it is not what Britain wants!"

It's utterly farcical, whichever way you voted.

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