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Corbyn officially backs Brexit 22:27 - Dec 21 with 39704 viewsElderGrizzly

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/21/jeremy-corbyn-labour-policy-lea

Making him utterly unelectable for an even bigger section of the UK population than before
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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:37 - Dec 21 with 6616 viewsFtnfwest

Didn’t he officially back it in the last labour manifesto?
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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:38 - Dec 21 with 6614 viewsJ2BLUE

Didn't he recently promise to back a referendum if he couldn't force a general election? Another lie. Shambles.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:45 - Dec 21 with 6602 viewsgtsb

As a floating voter, who has voted labour before and there must be lots like me, I cannot understand why the Labour party stick with this unelectable man. We have one of the worse governments in modern times yet this fool and his party will not win an election. You do the maths.
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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:46 - Dec 21 with 6588 viewsJ2BLUE

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:45 - Dec 21 by gtsb

As a floating voter, who has voted labour before and there must be lots like me, I cannot understand why the Labour party stick with this unelectable man. We have one of the worse governments in modern times yet this fool and his party will not win an election. You do the maths.


The people who choose the leader are deluded enough to think he can win.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:51 - Dec 21 with 6565 viewsclive_baker

Stupid man.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:52 - Dec 21 with 6563 viewsBrixtonBlue

Not quite "officially backs Brexit".

"As to what stance Labour would take if a referendum were held, Corbyn said, “it would be a matter for the party to decide what the policy would be; but my proposal at this moment is that we go forward, trying to get a customs union with the EU, in which we would be able to be proper trading partners.”

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:54 - Dec 21 with 6556 viewsBrixtonBlue

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:46 - Dec 21 by J2BLUE

The people who choose the leader are deluded enough to think he can win.


He can win and will win. I've been saying it all along. And I don't find anything objectionable in that article.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:55 - Dec 21 with 6539 viewsJ2BLUE

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:54 - Dec 21 by BrixtonBlue

He can win and will win. I've been saying it all along. And I don't find anything objectionable in that article.


Will win? Why do you think that?

The polls say otherwise and we now know May will be replaced. Corbyn will have to beat a fresh Tory candidate like Javid. Can't see it.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:56 - Dec 21 with 6532 viewsElderGrizzly

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:37 - Dec 21 by Ftnfwest

Didn’t he officially back it in the last labour manifesto?


He did, but at the recent conference he put all options back on the table.

Reading this, the Union paymasters won as McCluskey told him to back Brexit, the members lost.
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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:58 - Dec 21 with 6527 viewsElderGrizzly

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:52 - Dec 21 by BrixtonBlue

Not quite "officially backs Brexit".

"As to what stance Labour would take if a referendum were held, Corbyn said, “it would be a matter for the party to decide what the policy would be; but my proposal at this moment is that we go forward, trying to get a customs union with the EU, in which we would be able to be proper trading partners.”


Yes it is. That’s his response to the Tories tabling a 2nd vote. This reads as quite categorical, that he won’t call one if he was PM.
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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:02 - Dec 21 with 6511 viewsBrixtonBlue

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:55 - Dec 21 by J2BLUE

Will win? Why do you think that?

The polls say otherwise and we now know May will be replaced. Corbyn will have to beat a fresh Tory candidate like Javid. Can't see it.


The polls?! Have you learn't nothing about the polls in recent years?

Do we know May will be replaced?

Even if she is, I have faith that the people of this country can't possibly vote for the Tories AGAIN. I mean, what will it take to say enough is enough?

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:04 - Dec 21 with 6496 viewsSpruceMoose

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:52 - Dec 21 by BrixtonBlue

Not quite "officially backs Brexit".

"As to what stance Labour would take if a referendum were held, Corbyn said, “it would be a matter for the party to decide what the policy would be; but my proposal at this moment is that we go forward, trying to get a customs union with the EU, in which we would be able to be proper trading partners.”


You don't think this stance might alienate the Glastonbury crowd?

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:04 - Dec 21 with 6492 viewslowhouseblue

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:02 - Dec 21 by BrixtonBlue

The polls?! Have you learn't nothing about the polls in recent years?

Do we know May will be replaced?

Even if she is, I have faith that the people of this country can't possibly vote for the Tories AGAIN. I mean, what will it take to say enough is enough?


what it will take is a credible opposition.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:05 - Dec 21 with 6490 viewsJ2BLUE

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:02 - Dec 21 by BrixtonBlue

The polls?! Have you learn't nothing about the polls in recent years?

Do we know May will be replaced?

Even if she is, I have faith that the people of this country can't possibly vote for the Tories AGAIN. I mean, what will it take to say enough is enough?


I've learnt not to trust polls when one of the options is considered racist or stupid. If anything the Tories should be lagging in the polls with people ashamed to admit they would vote for them? Corbyn is behind massively if he doesn't support remaining in the EU. Something like 20 points.

Your last paragraph shows how weak the opposition is. Remember I voted Labour at the last election. I was a Corbyn fan. It doesn't give me any pleasure to say I now think he's not up for it and needs to go.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:05 - Dec 21 with 6493 viewsm14_blue

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:54 - Dec 21 by BrixtonBlue

He can win and will win. I've been saying it all along. And I don't find anything objectionable in that article.


I really don’t think he can.

I am exactly the sort of person Labour need to win over if they are to succeed in an election and I have never felt further away from wanting to do so.
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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:07 - Dec 21 with 6481 viewsBrixtonBlue

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 22:58 - Dec 21 by ElderGrizzly

Yes it is. That’s his response to the Tories tabling a 2nd vote. This reads as quite categorical, that he won’t call one if he was PM.


It reads as he says it to me. Which is at this time he wants to get a better deal... but the party might decide on a second vote.

No need to dress it up as anything else. Just go with what he actually said.

You went for a clickbait headline but it's not quite what he actually said.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:13 - Dec 21 with 6450 viewsSpruceMoose

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:05 - Dec 21 by m14_blue

I really don’t think he can.

I am exactly the sort of person Labour need to win over if they are to succeed in an election and I have never felt further away from wanting to do so.


I've no skin in the game now other than to want the best outcomes for my UK based family, but if I was still in the UK I couldn't bring myself to vote for Labour any longer. That's coming from someone who has voted for them consistently in the past.

I don't believe all the apocalyptic forecasts about what would happen if JC was to be PM, I don't believe he's a terrorist symapthiser, a mysoginist, an anti semite or a racist, but I do find him to be utterly uninspiring, incredibly weasely and for too long has been too willing to play both sides of the field.

He was never Pro EU, and while I can respect that stance because of his political beliefs as a socialist, I can't respect that he has been happy to let the younger voters driving his popularity believe he's in line with what they want.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:15 - Dec 21 with 6442 viewsSpruceMoose

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:07 - Dec 21 by BrixtonBlue

It reads as he says it to me. Which is at this time he wants to get a better deal... but the party might decide on a second vote.

No need to dress it up as anything else. Just go with what he actually said.

You went for a clickbait headline but it's not quite what he actually said.


Like I said, he wants one thing, but also wants all those votes from the people who want the opposite thing.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:24 - Dec 21 with 6416 viewsBrixtonBlue

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:04 - Dec 21 by SpruceMoose

You don't think this stance might alienate the Glastonbury crowd?


I'm pro-Europe and it doesn't alienate me. People vote on lots of reasons, not just one.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:24 - Dec 21 with 6415 viewsBrixtonBlue

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:04 - Dec 21 by lowhouseblue

what it will take is a credible opposition.


We have a credible opposition.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:26 - Dec 21 with 6411 viewsJ2BLUE

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:24 - Dec 21 by BrixtonBlue

We have a credible opposition.


Where?

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:26 - Dec 21 with 6409 viewsBrixtonBlue

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:05 - Dec 21 by J2BLUE

I've learnt not to trust polls when one of the options is considered racist or stupid. If anything the Tories should be lagging in the polls with people ashamed to admit they would vote for them? Corbyn is behind massively if he doesn't support remaining in the EU. Something like 20 points.

Your last paragraph shows how weak the opposition is. Remember I voted Labour at the last election. I was a Corbyn fan. It doesn't give me any pleasure to say I now think he's not up for it and needs to go.


What has he done that's made you change your mind?

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:27 - Dec 21 with 6402 viewsBrixtonBlue

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:05 - Dec 21 by m14_blue

I really don’t think he can.

I am exactly the sort of person Labour need to win over if they are to succeed in an election and I have never felt further away from wanting to do so.


That's fine, but you are one person.

I seem to be a dying breed on here but I'm still backing Corbyn.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:29 - Dec 21 with 6390 viewsBrixtonBlue

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:26 - Dec 21 by J2BLUE

Where?


It's called the Labour Party.

I'm leaving this thread now to watch a film. Enjoy your anti-Corbyn echo chamber.

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Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:32 - Dec 21 with 6382 viewsJ2BLUE

Corbyn officially backs Brexit on 23:26 - Dec 21 by BrixtonBlue

What has he done that's made you change your mind?


Where do I start?

He is a weak leader. The majority of his own party don't support him. No clear position on Brexit for ages. Antisemitism. Poor opposition. Six tests for Brexit which are impossible to meet but Corbyn claims he can do. Demanding general elections when Labour has virtually no credibility left. Top Labour party members divided, Corbyn/Starmer etc. Links to questionable groups. Etc. Etc.

I wanted him to succeed, I really did.

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