Veganuary 19:17 - Dec 28 with 2029 views | BlueNote | Professional footballer Declan Rudd promoting the benefits of being vegan
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Veganuary on 20:46 - Dec 28 with 1966 views | J2BLUE | Thought about it. Decided against it. | |
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Veganuary on 21:01 - Dec 28 with 1942 views | Swansea_Blue | If he ate meat he'd be playing for Real Madrid now! Good for him. The 'not enough proteign' myth has been busted for a while now. If done properly (and that's the important bit) it seems that a vegan lifestyle has significant benefits. It could be a great tool in fighting heart disease and obesity, two of our biggest killers and NHS strains, if only people could get over their prejudices. | |
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Veganuary on 21:02 - Dec 28 with 1943 views | Oldsmoker | Sorry, but I'm not interested. Usually, I get told that its No Smoking day so why am I rolling one up or I should be growing a moustache so why am I clean shaven. I get accused of not caring and they're right - I don't give a sh*t. | |
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Veganuary on 21:10 - Dec 28 with 1929 views | StirlingArcher | I had to google him... and not for me | | | |
Veganuary on 21:12 - Dec 28 with 1924 views | J2BLUE |
Veganuary on 21:01 - Dec 28 by Swansea_Blue | If he ate meat he'd be playing for Real Madrid now! Good for him. The 'not enough proteign' myth has been busted for a while now. If done properly (and that's the important bit) it seems that a vegan lifestyle has significant benefits. It could be a great tool in fighting heart disease and obesity, two of our biggest killers and NHS strains, if only people could get over their prejudices. |
Possibly. Some anecdotal evidence to show there is a sweet spot for veganism and health issues creep in after a few years. Hard to say whether it is healthy long term. It depends what it's compared with. The standard western diet tends to be unhealthy. Would a vegan diet with plenty of wholegrains, fruit, veg, nuts etc be more or less healthy than the same diet with a few servings of high quality animal products each week? Hard to say. | |
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Veganuary on 09:20 - Dec 29 with 1818 views | Ryorry |
Veganuary on 21:12 - Dec 28 by J2BLUE | Possibly. Some anecdotal evidence to show there is a sweet spot for veganism and health issues creep in after a few years. Hard to say whether it is healthy long term. It depends what it's compared with. The standard western diet tends to be unhealthy. Would a vegan diet with plenty of wholegrains, fruit, veg, nuts etc be more or less healthy than the same diet with a few servings of high quality animal products each week? Hard to say. |
Quite. When I was in hosp a few years back with all sorts of problems (gastric tract & had recently had numerous strokes) the doc asked what sort of diet I was on, told him vegetarian as I had been for a few years at the time. He said "oh that's OK, as long as it's not anything extreme such as vegan". Think the jury's still out - are there any countries/cultures where a vegan diet's been the norm for whole lifetimes & could be put to to full clinical testing? | |
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Veganuary on 09:22 - Dec 29 with 1813 views | Ryorry |
Veganuary on 21:01 - Dec 28 by Swansea_Blue | If he ate meat he'd be playing for Real Madrid now! Good for him. The 'not enough proteign' myth has been busted for a while now. If done properly (and that's the important bit) it seems that a vegan lifestyle has significant benefits. It could be a great tool in fighting heart disease and obesity, two of our biggest killers and NHS strains, if only people could get over their prejudices. |
You don't have to be vegan to have a healthy diet and lifestyle which "fight heart disease and obesity"! | |
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Veganuary on 09:31 - Dec 29 with 1801 views | Swansea_Blue |
Veganuary on 09:20 - Dec 29 by Ryorry | Quite. When I was in hosp a few years back with all sorts of problems (gastric tract & had recently had numerous strokes) the doc asked what sort of diet I was on, told him vegetarian as I had been for a few years at the time. He said "oh that's OK, as long as it's not anything extreme such as vegan". Think the jury's still out - are there any countries/cultures where a vegan diet's been the norm for whole lifetimes & could be put to to full clinical testing? |
I don’t think the jury’s out at all - there’s published evidence and plenty of anecdotal evidence from long-term vegans. It’s the same as J2’s argument though - it has to be a good version of the diet. Of course it’s possible to have a poor vegan diet. If vegans are eating nitrient-poor processed crap it’s not going to do them any favours. J2’s point about veganism being seen as healthy relative to the broadly accepted western diet is a fair one too, for the same reasons. There’s lots people could do to improve their diets where meat is a part of them. | |
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Veganuary on 10:21 - Dec 29 with 1767 views | eireblue |
Veganuary on 09:20 - Dec 29 by Ryorry | Quite. When I was in hosp a few years back with all sorts of problems (gastric tract & had recently had numerous strokes) the doc asked what sort of diet I was on, told him vegetarian as I had been for a few years at the time. He said "oh that's OK, as long as it's not anything extreme such as vegan". Think the jury's still out - are there any countries/cultures where a vegan diet's been the norm for whole lifetimes & could be put to to full clinical testing? |
My previous doctors comment on knowing I was a vegan was, “you will probably out live us all”. Sadly, in her case, I did. Doctors can also have a bias. | | | |
Veganuary on 10:31 - Dec 29 with 1754 views | Ryorry |
Veganuary on 09:31 - Dec 29 by Swansea_Blue | I don’t think the jury’s out at all - there’s published evidence and plenty of anecdotal evidence from long-term vegans. It’s the same as J2’s argument though - it has to be a good version of the diet. Of course it’s possible to have a poor vegan diet. If vegans are eating nitrient-poor processed crap it’s not going to do them any favours. J2’s point about veganism being seen as healthy relative to the broadly accepted western diet is a fair one too, for the same reasons. There’s lots people could do to improve their diets where meat is a part of them. |
Any clinical studies on whole lifetimes? | |
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Veganuary on 10:36 - Dec 29 with 1742 views | Swansea_Blue |
Veganuary on 09:22 - Dec 29 by Ryorry | You don't have to be vegan to have a healthy diet and lifestyle which "fight heart disease and obesity"! |
Agreed. I wasn’t implying it was the only way, just a useful tool. | |
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Veganuary on 10:38 - Dec 29 with 1739 views | Swansea_Blue |
Veganuary on 10:31 - Dec 29 by Ryorry | Any clinical studies on whole lifetimes? |
I doubt it; the vegans would all outlive the researchers No idea - probably not as I imagine it’s pretty hard to secure funding for whole life studies. | |
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Veganuary on 10:52 - Dec 29 with 1722 views | BlueNote |
Veganuary on 09:22 - Dec 29 by Ryorry | You don't have to be vegan to have a healthy diet and lifestyle which "fight heart disease and obesity"! |
No, but a healthy vegan lifestyle means you are less likely to be obese or suffer heart disease. But more importantly, you won't be contributing to the needless suffering of animals. I believe you feel better about yourself if you are compassionate. Veganism is such a positive choice. | | | |
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