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Haven’t there been something like 42 different winners though!?
Surely a better question would be, which no-mark teams from the top 2 divisions have somehow never managed to win it?
Yes, I should imagine the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton, Watford and Palace are currently hanging their heads in shame at being such 'no marks'.
And is that 6 are in the top nine places in the third tier that is the odd thing, coupled with the fact that five of them were fairly recently in the PL.
Tho most of those were many decades ago, apart from Portsmouth's second in 2008. Going back in time: Coventry in 1987, Sunderland's most recent in 1973, Luton lost in 1959, Blackpool won in 1953, Charlton in 1947 and Barnsley in 1912.
Like Ipswich, many of those teams have been victims of the changes in football, falling from grace in the last 20 years.
Tho most of those were many decades ago, apart from Portsmouth's second in 2008. Going back in time: Coventry in 1987, Sunderland's most recent in 1973, Luton lost in 1959, Blackpool won in 1953, Charlton in 1947 and Barnsley in 1912.
Like Ipswich, many of those teams have been victims of the changes in football, falling from grace in the last 20 years.
Scarily, Coventry are the team that remind me most of ourselves.
They were the previous club to hold the honour of being the longest continuous members of this division. How long have they been in League 1 now? Have they even diced with relegation from there more than promotion or have they just been a consistent League 1 side?
Scarily, Coventry are the team that remind me most of ourselves.
They were the previous club to hold the honour of being the longest continuous members of this division. How long have they been in League 1 now? Have they even diced with relegation from there more than promotion or have they just been a consistent League 1 side?
Five seasons in League One, then relegated and spent 2017-18 in League Two before winning promotion via the play-offs.
Yes, I should imagine the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton, Watford and Palace are currently hanging their heads in shame at being such 'no marks'.
And is that 6 are in the top nine places in the third tier that is the odd thing, coupled with the fact that five of them were fairly recently in the PL.
add leicester city to that list
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Five seasons in League One, then relegated and spent 2017-18 in League Two before winning promotion via the play-offs.
At least, if they are our benchmark, we can expect not to fall right of the league altogether. That is a comforting thought!
Seriously, we need to turn this around. I really hope Lambert can pull some masterstrokes in the transfer market this window and on the pitch for the rest of the season.
Tho most of those were many decades ago, apart from Portsmouth's second in 2008. Going back in time: Coventry in 1987, Sunderland's most recent in 1973, Luton lost in 1959, Blackpool won in 1953, Charlton in 1947 and Barnsley in 1912.
Like Ipswich, many of those teams have been victims of the changes in football, falling from grace in the last 20 years.
Or in reality victims of dreadful club management.
Trying to hide behind some defence of how football has changed is absurd.
For every Portsmouth there's a Southampton, for every Sunderland there's a Newcastle. For Coventry read Leicester. For Blackpool look at Burnley.
Or in reality victims of dreadful club management.
Trying to hide behind some defence of how football has changed is absurd.
For every Portsmouth there's a Southampton, for every Sunderland there's a Newcastle. For Coventry read Leicester. For Blackpool look at Burnley.
We are the architects of our own woes.
How much money have Southampton, Newcastle, Leicester and even Burnley spent on their way (back) up? So much of it is a competition based on big spending nowadays.
Charlton and Barnsley's woes are very similar to our own.
Even Portsmouth and Blackpool's most recent excursions to the top were propelled by considerable funding (and ruined by evaporation of the same).
If good club management only consists of providing a big budget, it just becomes a lottery on the disposable wealth of the owner. Almost no chance for a team which is careful with money, simply attracting an unexpectedly skilful manager and growing good players.
Or in reality victims of dreadful club management.
Trying to hide behind some defence of how football has changed is absurd.
For every Portsmouth there's a Southampton, for every Sunderland there's a Newcastle. For Coventry read Leicester. For Blackpool look at Burnley.
We are the architects of our own woes.
To further labour the point, it's instructive that the Cobbold family, who presided over Ipswich's finest era, could not have afforded to finance the club even to Marcus Evans levels on the profits of a modest provincial brewery and farming. Traditional owners of that sort have vanished from the upper tiers of English football.
Is that poor club management, or the ruination of an entire sport?
To further labour the point, it's instructive that the Cobbold family, who presided over Ipswich's finest era, could not have afforded to finance the club even to Marcus Evans levels on the profits of a modest provincial brewery and farming. Traditional owners of that sort have vanished from the upper tiers of English football.
Is that poor club management, or the ruination of an entire sport?
The sport has not been 'ruined'.
Sheepshanks over stretched the club, leaving us with a debt that was passed on to someone whose stewardship has been little but shocking in it's competence.
We got it wrong, as others did and others didn't. It is as simple as that.
Always helps if you have multiple debts written off or cheat FFP.
Like 'plucky ol' Leicester'? ...... Admin leaving all those debtors behind, to emerge debt free and in a shiny new ground before finally & unbelievably winning the Premier League.
Scarily, Coventry are the team that remind me most of ourselves.
They were the previous club to hold the honour of being the longest continuous members of this division. How long have they been in League 1 now? Have they even diced with relegation from there more than promotion or have they just been a consistent League 1 side?
Promoted from league 2 last season, the first time since 1969/70 they had finished in the top 6 of their division (they finished 6th with a +1 better goal difference than the team in 7th)
Sheepshanks over stretched the club, leaving us with a debt that was passed on to someone whose stewardship has been little but shocking in it's competence.
We got it wrong, as others did and others didn't. It is as simple as that.
So our sugar daddy did not put in so much over as long a period as some others, such as the owners of Leicester, Cardiff, etc.
Mistakes (like the appointment of a Roy Keane) can stymie a club's promotion hopes, but with sufficient funds they can power through those errors. That is the common denominator in most of the Prem clubs you mention and failure or refusal to do so is in the League One lot.
So our sugar daddy did not put in so much over as long a period as some others, such as the owners of Leicester, Cardiff, etc.
Mistakes (like the appointment of a Roy Keane) can stymie a club's promotion hopes, but with sufficient funds they can power through those errors. That is the common denominator in most of the Prem clubs you mention and failure or refusal to do so is in the League One lot.
Has not Evans said in the past something along the lines that he bought the club on the basis that Sheepshanks told him that it would only take a few million to get us promoted?
Like many a fool before him he seems to have thought he could actually make money from a football club. Once he realised otherwise he basically neglected the club to the point where it was so weakened a few months of Hursts managership has done for us.
Even among many clueless club owners Evans incompetence is breathtaking. He really should have sold up years ago when he might have got a few quid for us.
Scarily, Coventry are the team that remind me most of ourselves.
They were the previous club to hold the honour of being the longest continuous members of this division. How long have they been in League 1 now? Have they even diced with relegation from there more than promotion or have they just been a consistent League 1 side?
Where's our criminally negligent, faceless corporate consortium that cost us playing at PR once and look like they're going to do it again?
Sheepshanks over stretched the club, leaving us with a debt that was passed on to someone whose stewardship has been little but shocking in it's competence.
We got it wrong, as others did and others didn't. It is as simple as that.
So true, we tried to buy success by over spending, basically he spunked the clubs long term future for short-term failure.
Other clubs did it and recovered others failed, we failed.
Has not Evans said in the past something along the lines that he bought the club on the basis that Sheepshanks told him that it would only take a few million to get us promoted?
Like many a fool before him he seems to have thought he could actually make money from a football club. Once he realised otherwise he basically neglected the club to the point where it was so weakened a few months of Hursts managership has done for us.
Even among many clueless club owners Evans incompetence is breathtaking. He really should have sold up years ago when he might have got a few quid for us.
I'd love Evans to sell us to someone who is more happy to splash the cash but the likelihood of that happening is slim.
Best we can hope for is one of these rich Asian consortiums coming in to rescue a faltering club with a decent history but as we know from other clubs that doesn't always work well
My hobbies include being quiet during trips, clapping with songs, and diabetes.
I'd love Evans to sell us to someone who is more happy to splash the cash but the likelihood of that happening is slim.
Best we can hope for is one of these rich Asian consortiums coming in to rescue a faltering club with a decent history but as we know from other clubs that doesn't always work well
Very true but we know what we have now isn’t working so here’s hoping!
If Evans wants to sell, and at this point I cannot see why he wouldn’t, given the car crash he has created, doing so now will be far harder than a few years ago when we still had some credibility left!
Having said that a new owner really is the only way out of this mess in my opinion.
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