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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:18 - Jan 9 with 2828 viewsbluelagos

It gets better


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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:18 - Jan 9 with 2823 viewswkj

This is going to get tasty, no longer will leavers vs remainers be a thing, it will be leavers vs different sort of leavers vs other types of leavers vs remainers

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:19 - Jan 9 with 2814 viewsSteve_M

Perhaps. Don't forget though that is the default option on 29 March, something significant has to change for that not to happen.

That we now know that Article 50 can be rescinded right until the last minute should mean it won't happen but, given the incompetence of the leadership of both main parties, it might very well do so.

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:22 - Jan 9 with 2782 viewsHerbivore

It's quite incredible really. Sovereignty is meant to be a key thing for Brexiteers except it seems when that sovereignty might stop them getting their own way. Why anyone would object to parliament being able to stop Brexit getting kicked down the road and leaving us tumbling out by default is beyond me. MPs shouldn't be advocating for a catastrophe.

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:23 - Jan 9 with 2782 viewsStokieBlue

To be fair though, whilst it's an outcome myself and many will like, the accusations against Bercow by the Tories are pretty fair.

He’s gone against protocol and clerk advice (it seems) in order to allow something he agrees with. Duncan-Smith pointed out he didn’t allow this when he asked for it many times in the past so it does all look a little impartial.

Happy with the result but I also think Bercow might have overstayed his welcome. His handling of the JC stuff the other week was strange as well.

SB

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:24 - Jan 9 with 2780 viewsbluelagos

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:22 - Jan 9 by Herbivore

It's quite incredible really. Sovereignty is meant to be a key thing for Brexiteers except it seems when that sovereignty might stop them getting their own way. Why anyone would object to parliament being able to stop Brexit getting kicked down the road and leaving us tumbling out by default is beyond me. MPs shouldn't be advocating for a catastrophe.


They are actually complaining at being given more powers. And in the next few minutes will be voting against being given more powers...

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:28 - Jan 9 with 2737 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

That programme died when they introduced the new concept of Box 23.






Oh I see..

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:28 - Jan 9 with 2740 viewsbontcho

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:22 - Jan 9 by Herbivore

It's quite incredible really. Sovereignty is meant to be a key thing for Brexiteers except it seems when that sovereignty might stop them getting their own way. Why anyone would object to parliament being able to stop Brexit getting kicked down the road and leaving us tumbling out by default is beyond me. MPs shouldn't be advocating for a catastrophe.


It's almost as if they want the catastrophe isn't it! One can only wonder why.....

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:29 - Jan 9 with 2724 viewsGlasgowBlue

I don't want us leaving with no deal (tbh I don't want us to leave the EU for reasons I gave recently) but the vote last night was meaningless.

No deal is the default position on March 29 unless the commons have a majority for either a) May's deal b) any other type of deal c) a second referendum.

There isn't a majority in the house for any of the above so all of this fcuking about sees us crash out with no deal.

As for Chuka's tweet. It is unprecedented for a Speaker to select a motion so the MP's complaining have a valid point. Just because you don't agree with their position on Brexit doesn't make their point any less valid.

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:30 - Jan 9 with 2714 viewsbluelagos

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:24 - Jan 9 by bluelagos

They are actually complaining at being given more powers. And in the next few minutes will be voting against being given more powers...


There we have it. Vote won. The Govt will have to present a Plan B in 3 days rather than wind the clock down to a "No deal". (if it loses next week)

Parliament asserting it's authority over the government.

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:32 - Jan 9 with 2681 viewsGlasgowBlue

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:30 - Jan 9 by bluelagos

There we have it. Vote won. The Govt will have to present a Plan B in 3 days rather than wind the clock down to a "No deal". (if it loses next week)

Parliament asserting it's authority over the government.


You seem to be under the impression that the government desires a no deal. They don't.

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:32 - Jan 9 with 2691 viewsSteve_M

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:23 - Jan 9 by StokieBlue

To be fair though, whilst it's an outcome myself and many will like, the accusations against Bercow by the Tories are pretty fair.

He’s gone against protocol and clerk advice (it seems) in order to allow something he agrees with. Duncan-Smith pointed out he didn’t allow this when he asked for it many times in the past so it does all look a little impartial.

Happy with the result but I also think Bercow might have overstayed his welcome. His handling of the JC stuff the other week was strange as well.

SB


Although:


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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:32 - Jan 9 with 2666 viewsHerbivore

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:30 - Jan 9 by bluelagos

There we have it. Vote won. The Govt will have to present a Plan B in 3 days rather than wind the clock down to a "No deal". (if it loses next week)

Parliament asserting it's authority over the government.


It's unusual to see a government defeated so regularly and still remain in power. These are extraordinary times in every way.

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:33 - Jan 9 with 2663 viewsSpruceMoose

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:32 - Jan 9 by Steve_M

Although:



Careful, you'll be accused of whatabouttery soon.

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:33 - Jan 9 with 2666 viewsJ2BLUE

No deal was always going to die.

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:33 - Jan 9 with 2674 viewschicoazul

But No Deal is the default regardless of what MPs want, since they voted to activate Article 50.

Words are a medium that reduces reality to abstraction for transmission to our reason, and in their power to corrode reality inevitably lurks the danger that the words will be corroded too. It might be more appropriate, in fact, to liken their action to excessive stomach fluids that digest and gradually eat away the stomach itself.

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:34 - Jan 9 with 2669 viewsXYZ

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:30 - Jan 9 by bluelagos

There we have it. Vote won. The Govt will have to present a Plan B in 3 days rather than wind the clock down to a "No deal". (if it loses next week)

Parliament asserting it's authority over the government.


Taking back control, I think it could be referred to.
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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:35 - Jan 9 with 2654 viewsGlasgowBlue

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:32 - Jan 9 by Steve_M

Although:



When leavers put the threat of a punishment budget, falling house prices, higher unemployment, a 2016/17 recession etc as a counter argument to the Brexit Bus, people such as your good self object to the "the other side are doing it as well" argument.

You have just done that.
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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:35 - Jan 9 with 2657 viewswkj

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:32 - Jan 9 by Herbivore

It's unusual to see a government defeated so regularly and still remain in power. These are extraordinary times in every way.


Is it not the case that the Monarchy can step in if that happens and request them to attempt to re-form a government? I know the monarchy isn't allowed to push their own agenda into it, but i swear i read that can intervene if a government is unable to govern effectively, such as the case seems to be here.

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:35 - Jan 9 with 2655 viewsSwansea_Blue

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:18 - Jan 9 by wkj

This is going to get tasty, no longer will leavers vs remainers be a thing, it will be leavers vs different sort of leavers vs other types of leavers vs remainers


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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:36 - Jan 9 with 2643 viewsGlasgowBlue

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:32 - Jan 9 by Herbivore

It's unusual to see a government defeated so regularly and still remain in power. These are extraordinary times in every way.


So why doesn't the leader of the opposition move a motion of confidence in the government then?

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:37 - Jan 9 with 2631 viewsSpruceMoose

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:35 - Jan 9 by GlasgowBlue

When leavers put the threat of a punishment budget, falling house prices, higher unemployment, a 2016/17 recession etc as a counter argument to the Brexit Bus, people such as your good self object to the "the other side are doing it as well" argument.

You have just done that.
[Post edited 9 Jan 14:35]


Called it!

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:38 - Jan 9 with 2624 viewsSpruceMoose

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:36 - Jan 9 by GlasgowBlue

So why doesn't the leader of the opposition move a motion of confidence in the government then?


Because he's a useless, charmless, scheming twonk?

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:39 - Jan 9 with 2612 viewsStokieBlue

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:32 - Jan 9 by Steve_M

Although:



I don’t think we want to go down the route of many wrongs make a right.

It’s also far more complex than that. If this is now an accepted precedence then any back bencher can amend motions at any time possibly tying parliament up in total knots. Perhaps that is the way it should be but it shouldn’t have been decided by a single person a whim going against what all speakers previously had done.

It’s a good result for the country but I think it will have knock-on effects.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:40 - Jan 9 with 2596 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

Think we're seeing the death of No deal... on 14:33 - Jan 9 by J2BLUE

No deal was always going to die.


Noel Edmonds didn’t think so..

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