| Put up or shut up 19:42 - Jan 15 with 6568 views | GlasgowBlue |
Basically what May has told Corbyn.
Losing by 230 she should really resign. |  |
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| Put up or shut up on 21:31 - Jan 15 with 2242 views | gtsb |
| Put up or shut up on 21:27 - Jan 15 by grimboy |
Better ,than strikes in the public services every week and I mean more than now under the Tories ,borrowing money hand over foot and plunging the uk into even further debt. |
Have you seen the latest debt figure? |  | | |
| Put up or shut up on 21:32 - Jan 15 with 2235 views | BloomBlue |
| Put up or shut up on 21:31 - Jan 15 by gtsb |
Have you seen the latest debt figure? |
He did say even more in debt than we are now |  | | |
| Put up or shut up on 21:34 - Jan 15 with 2231 views | jaykay |
| Put up or shut up on 21:19 - Jan 15 by grimboy |
Anything is better than a labour government. |
yep we need a strong and stable government
oh wait |  |
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| Put up or shut up on 21:35 - Jan 15 with 2226 views | wkj |
| Put up or shut up on 21:27 - Jan 15 by grimboy |
Better ,than strikes in the public services every week and I mean more than now under the Tories ,borrowing money hand over foot and plunging the uk into even further debt. |
No insult intended, but you really need to do some research if you honestly feel a dictatorship would in any way be close to favourable to live in, let alone eutopian. |  |
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| Put up or shut up on 21:36 - Jan 15 with 2223 views | grimboy |
| Put up or shut up on 21:31 - Jan 15 by gtsb |
Have you seen the latest debt figure? |
Do you know what debt the Tories inherited from the Labour government? |  | | |
| Put up or shut up on 21:38 - Jan 15 with 2212 views | No9 |
| Put up or shut up on 21:36 - Jan 15 by grimboy |
Do you know what debt the Tories inherited from the Labour government? |
you can look on the governemnt web sie but from memory it was £0.8 Trn
it's now more than double that and may rise further with all the money they are currently spending |  | | |
| Put up or shut up on 21:39 - Jan 15 with 2212 views | gtsb |
| Put up or shut up on 21:36 - Jan 15 by grimboy |
Do you know what debt the Tories inherited from the Labour government? |
Have you ever heard of the saying "Two wrongs don't make a right". [Post edited 15 Jan 2019 21:39]
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| Put up or shut up on 21:39 - Jan 15 with 2213 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Put up or shut up on 21:13 - Jan 15 by wkj |
I'm not really looking to trawl and fact check, and I can assure you this isn't some trap im laying to have a pop - I am genuinely interest in your reflection. |
That was my view at the time. She gambled and lost. Any chance of her getting a Brexit deal through ended in June 2017. | |
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| Put up or shut up on 21:41 - Jan 15 with 2195 views | PositivelyPortman |
| Put up or shut up on 20:53 - Jan 15 by grimboy |
No one in their right mind would ever vote Corbyn in as PM surely the blokes hasn’t got a clue. |
They will, just you wait. |  |
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| Put up or shut up on 21:57 - Jan 15 with 2176 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Put up or shut up on 21:27 - Jan 15 by grimboy |
Better ,than strikes in the public services every week and I mean more than now under the Tories ,borrowing money hand over foot and plunging the uk into even further debt. |
Funny how there are strikes now under a Tory Government.
We will never get back to the sort of situation of the pre-Thatcher union stranglehold. To suggest that as the reason for not having a Labour government is akin to saying we don't want the extreme right wing policies of some past Tory government so don't vote for the current Tory party. As dreadful as they are, it would be wrong to suggest they are that. |  |
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| Put up or shut up on 22:22 - Jan 15 with 2157 views | grimboy |
| Put up or shut up on 21:38 - Jan 15 by No9 |
you can look on the governemnt web sie but from memory it was £0.8 Trn
it's now more than double that and may rise further with all the money they are currently spending |
Apparently Major got it down but by 2008 to 2015 the Labour Party had doubled the national debt . | | | |
| Put up or shut up on 22:26 - Jan 15 with 2147 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Put up or shut up on 22:22 - Jan 15 by grimboy |
Apparently Major got it down but by 2008 to 2015 the Labour Party had doubled the national debt . |
So the Labour party increased debt for 5 years of not being in power. Impressive. | |
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| Put up or shut up on 22:28 - Jan 15 with 2142 views | syntaxerror |
| Put up or shut up on 22:22 - Jan 15 by grimboy |
Apparently Major got it down but by 2008 to 2015 the Labour Party had doubled the national debt . |
The labour party was in power in 2015? |  | | |
| Put up or shut up on 22:32 - Jan 15 with 2131 views | grimboy |
| Put up or shut up on 22:26 - Jan 15 by Nthsuffolkblue |
So the Labour party increased debt for 5 years of not being in power. Impressive. |
No my mistake got the years muddled up 1998 labour to 2010 I think.but they still doubled the national debt. | | | |
| Put up or shut up on 22:33 - Jan 15 with 2130 views | lowhouseblue |
| Put up or shut up on 20:47 - Jan 15 by m14_blue |
The whole lot of them are an absolute shower.
Labour have chosen a time of national crisis to play party political games whilst tories on either side of the fence have refused to compromise or act like actual adults at all.
Of course the deal isn’t perfect but there are so many differing views that no one faction was ever going to get exactly what they want.
It’s time for them all to sit down like grown ups and actually work out a compromise rather than throwing their collective toys out of the pram and regurgitating sound bites and platitudes without offering any viable alternatives. |
this is the least able, competent or barely adequate generation of politicians imaginable. there is not even a hint of leadership amongst the lot of them. |  |
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| Put up or shut up on 22:35 - Jan 15 with 2122 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Put up or shut up on 22:32 - Jan 15 by grimboy |
No my mistake got the years muddled up 1998 labour to 2010 I think.but they still doubled the national debt. |
No you didn't get the dates wrong.
The debt came down under Labour and is spiralling out of control under the coalition, the Tory and the current Government. Currently over £2 Trillion! | |
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| Put up or shut up on 11:35 - Jan 16 with 2037 views | ZedRodgers |
| Put up or shut up on 20:49 - Jan 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Re your second paragraph. Last month Jacob Rees Mogg and co ensured that she was safe as Tory leader for another year by forcing a vote of confidence in her and tomorrow Jezza comes riding to her rescue to ensure that her government is in power for another four years. [Post edited 15 Jan 2019 20:55]
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I think you'll find that in reality the people riding to her rescue are the 117 Conservatives that last month decided they had no confidence in her as leader, but now have confidence in the government's leadership.
Amber Rudd this morning: "Nothing, nothing would be worse than a Corbyn government."
This is the same Amber Rudd that boasts a slim constituency majority of 356. |  |
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| Put up or shut up on 11:53 - Jan 16 with 2020 views | lowhouseblue |
| Put up or shut up on 11:35 - Jan 16 by ZedRodgers |
I think you'll find that in reality the people riding to her rescue are the 117 Conservatives that last month decided they had no confidence in her as leader, but now have confidence in the government's leadership.
Amber Rudd this morning: "Nothing, nothing would be worse than a Corbyn government."
This is the same Amber Rudd that boasts a slim constituency majority of 356. |
and the alternative is the idiot corbyn who a majority of his mps would dump in an instant if only they could. even people like mcdonnell would if they thought they could get away with it. | |
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| Put up or shut up on 11:58 - Jan 16 with 2009 views | ZedRodgers |
| Put up or shut up on 11:53 - Jan 16 by lowhouseblue |
and the alternative is the idiot corbyn who a majority of his mps would dump in an instant if only they could. even people like mcdonnell would if they thought they could get away with it. |
And he was in the IRA and hummus | |
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| Put up or shut up on 12:01 - Jan 16 with 2000 views | lowhouseblue |
| Put up or shut up on 11:58 - Jan 16 by ZedRodgers |
And he was in the IRA and hummus |
was it organic hummus? did he make it himself? but yes his support for the ira does show how unfit he is to be in office. [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 12:02]
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| Put up or shut up on 12:02 - Jan 16 with 1990 views | ZedRodgers |
| Put up or shut up on 12:01 - Jan 16 by lowhouseblue |
was it organic hummus? did he make it himself? but yes his support for the ira does show how unfit he is to be in office. [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 12:02]
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Great banter. | |
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| Put up or shut up on 12:06 - Jan 16 with 1977 views | lowhouseblue |
| Put up or shut up on 12:02 - Jan 16 by ZedRodgers |
Great banter. |
no, it's just very depressing. no opposition, no leadership, incompetence on both sides. i'm surprised even you can be bothered with it to be honest. surely at some point you have to be embarrassed by how 3rd rate they are? | |
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| Put up or shut up on 12:10 - Jan 16 with 1967 views | m14_blue |
| Put up or shut up on 11:58 - Jan 16 by ZedRodgers |
And he was in the IRA and hummus |
Ignoring all the personality nonsense, do you really think Corbyn is any good? | | | |
| Put up or shut up on 12:27 - Jan 16 with 1946 views | ZedRodgers |
| Put up or shut up on 12:06 - Jan 16 by lowhouseblue |
no, it's just very depressing. no opposition, no leadership, incompetence on both sides. i'm surprised even you can be bothered with it to be honest. surely at some point you have to be embarrassed by how 3rd rate they are? |
The Government have just suffered the biggest defeat in HoC ever recorded in the history of our democracy in the only substantial policy they have been working towards in over 2 years.
The Government have been held in contempt of parliament for the first time and defeated on a finance bill for the first time in 40+ years.
Opposition forced Gov to publish legal advice, legal assessments and financial assessments + forced them to have a meaningful vote on the withdrawal agreement and to have a vote on triggering Article 50 in the first place.
It seems to me that the opposition are doing their job.
36 MPs bothered to turn up to the People's Vote demonstration this morning organised and backed by just by 71 Labour MPs. The next battle Labour will face will be from MPs within their own party trying to force the focus to move from a general election to a people's vote. This disingenuous approach from less than a third of the party defies basic HoC maths and will only aid the government's time-wasting blackmail tactics.
Corbyn will not cave in naive centrist nonsense as much as he won't pander to divisive and racist narratives. A general election will come and the Labour party will a majority. That is why you are hearing the rhetoric from Tory MPs this morning switch back to "the worst thing for this country would be a Corbyn government". | |
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| Put up or shut up on 12:32 - Jan 16 with 1942 views | lowhouseblue |
| Put up or shut up on 12:27 - Jan 16 by ZedRodgers |
The Government have just suffered the biggest defeat in HoC ever recorded in the history of our democracy in the only substantial policy they have been working towards in over 2 years.
The Government have been held in contempt of parliament for the first time and defeated on a finance bill for the first time in 40+ years.
Opposition forced Gov to publish legal advice, legal assessments and financial assessments + forced them to have a meaningful vote on the withdrawal agreement and to have a vote on triggering Article 50 in the first place.
It seems to me that the opposition are doing their job.
36 MPs bothered to turn up to the People's Vote demonstration this morning organised and backed by just by 71 Labour MPs. The next battle Labour will face will be from MPs within their own party trying to force the focus to move from a general election to a people's vote. This disingenuous approach from less than a third of the party defies basic HoC maths and will only aid the government's time-wasting blackmail tactics.
Corbyn will not cave in naive centrist nonsense as much as he won't pander to divisive and racist narratives. A general election will come and the Labour party will a majority. That is why you are hearing the rhetoric from Tory MPs this morning switch back to "the worst thing for this country would be a Corbyn government". |
do you believe any of that crap? | |
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