| If there was another referendum: 19:58 - Jan 15 with 41498 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Would you vote:
- The same as before - Leave
- The same as before - Remain
- Differently - Leave
- Differently - Remain
I think I’d vote differently - To remain.
It’s frankly a shambles. And I voted leave without knowing. I should never have been trusted to vote on something the general public knows not enough about. |  |
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| If there was another referendum: on 21:54 - Jan 15 with 3074 views | wkj |
| If there was another referendum: on 21:53 - Jan 15 by RamRob |
EU currentky saying that's not on the table
Remain
No deal
The negotiated deal |
I honestly do not see anything other than these three outcomes being achievable. |  |
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| If there was another referendum: on 21:57 - Jan 15 with 3067 views | Swansea_Blue |
| If there was another referendum: on 20:50 - Jan 15 by BloomBlue |
How would you vote at the third referendum? |
Yes, to joining the Superstate Trumpton |  |
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| If there was another referendum: on 21:57 - Jan 15 with 3061 views | StokieBlue |
| If there was another referendum: on 20:08 - Jan 15 by Trequartista |
Tiresome but true. Any referendum relies on partial information. That's why you should never have them. But now we have, we should really stick to it or risk serious damage to civil order and a parliamentary crisis |
That's nonsense though isn't it.
Take the AV referendum for instance, everyone knew how it would work.
You just want to champion that opinion because it makes your own view more valid in your eyes.
Civil disorder? If people can't behave because someone has a different opinion than them then they deserve whatever they get.
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:00 - Jan 15 with 3045 views | footers |
| If there was another referendum: on 21:54 - Jan 15 by wkj |
I honestly do not see anything other than these three outcomes being achievable. |
Declare war on France and invade the EU from there? |  |
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:00 - Jan 15 with 3043 views | jjblue84 |
Even if Remain won a second referendum, that only makes it 1-1. So then what?? |  | | |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:01 - Jan 15 with 3037 views | gtsb |
Rommy...the E.U is a far too complex organisation for most of the British population to understand imho. We should never have been given a vote on this in the first place and I think second time around the vast majority still haven't got a clue how it works. Having said that , and considering the younger generation want to stay and from a personal point of view I've nothing to complain about, I'd vote remain this time around as I rather naively voted leave. |  | | |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:02 - Jan 15 with 3035 views | Freddies_Ears |
Same as before - Remain
But this time I would campaign publicly |  | | |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:02 - Jan 15 with 3030 views | Pinewoodblue |
| If there was another referendum: on 21:57 - Jan 15 by StokieBlue |
That's nonsense though isn't it.
Take the AV referendum for instance, everyone knew how it would work.
You just want to champion that opinion because it makes your own view more valid in your eyes.
Civil disorder? If people can't behave because someone has a different opinion than them then they deserve whatever they get.
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Think he meant that people may take to the streets when they realise all the talk of honouring the referendum result was ballskit. |  |
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:03 - Jan 15 with 3025 views | wkj |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:00 - Jan 15 by jjblue84 |
Even if Remain won a second referendum, that only makes it 1-1. So then what?? |
Only makes it 1 - 1 if the options on Ref 2 are
Leave
Remain
It is an entirely different Ref if the choices are
Leave with No Deal
Remain
or
Leave with deal
Remain
A three choice referendum is highly unlikely. | |
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:03 - Jan 15 with 3025 views | Superfrans |
Same - remain. |  |
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:05 - Jan 15 with 3013 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:01 - Jan 15 by gtsb |
Rommy...the E.U is a far too complex organisation for most of the British population to understand imho. We should never have been given a vote on this in the first place and I think second time around the vast majority still haven't got a clue how it works. Having said that , and considering the younger generation want to stay and from a personal point of view I've nothing to complain about, I'd vote remain this time around as I rather naively voted leave. |
That’s exactly how I stand on it too bud. | |
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:07 - Jan 15 with 3000 views | StokieBlue |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:02 - Jan 15 by Pinewoodblue |
Think he meant that people may take to the streets when they realise all the talk of honouring the referendum result was ballskit. |
Yes I know.
And as I said, if they can't behave then that's their issue. Protest if you like but that's different to civil disobedience.
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:09 - Jan 15 with 2993 views | footers |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:01 - Jan 15 by gtsb |
Rommy...the E.U is a far too complex organisation for most of the British population to understand imho. We should never have been given a vote on this in the first place and I think second time around the vast majority still haven't got a clue how it works. Having said that , and considering the younger generation want to stay and from a personal point of view I've nothing to complain about, I'd vote remain this time around as I rather naively voted leave. |
What's changed your mind(s) since the vote, gtsb, and Rommy? | |
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:11 - Jan 15 with 2980 views | StokieBlue |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:09 - Jan 15 by footers |
What's changed your mind(s) since the vote, gtsb, and Rommy? |
I would guess information.
As I said before, very few good decisions in human history were made on partial information.
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:11 - Jan 15 with 2976 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:09 - Jan 15 by footers |
What's changed your mind(s) since the vote, gtsb, and Rommy? |
It’s the fact it’s a complete and utter sh*tshow. | |
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:16 - Jan 15 with 2964 views | caught-in-limbo |
| If there was another referendum: on 21:20 - Jan 15 by wkj |
There were no insults in the post, well not intended.
I did not miss the point, I understand you couldn't vote, and my language in the post highlights that with the use of the word "would"
The point in which I used an insult was levied at a ridiculous notion -
If someone would vote Leave, but feel we should remain to prove a point - the are morons, especially when the point has been clear for all to see for a long time already- the UK Government is weak and inept.
If you would vote to leave because that is what you would want, then that is all you'd need to say instead of trying to justify it as to teach government a lesson. [Post edited 15 Jan 2019 21:21]
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>>There were no insults in the post, well not intended.
I would suggest you earned a couple of your up-votes for the line "However, if you voted leave, but wanted to remain, just to prove a point - then you have pretty much resigned to acting like a bell end." Call it a ridiculous notion (and it is), it's still a veiled insult and always well-received by some. It's full of plausible deniability but a clever tactic nonetheless.
>> I did not miss the point, I understand you couldn't vote, and my language in the post highlights that with the use of the word "would"
You'll forgive me for thinking that you missed the point when you said "Lets just cut the fat, you are voting to leave, because you want to withdraw from the European Union, which is fine if that is what you believe."
>>If you would vote to leave because that is what you would want, then that is all you'd need to say instead of trying to justify it as to teach government a lesson.
How about me wanting to leave the EU and wanting to teach the government a lesson, is that not an option? Furthermore, who are you to tell me that I can't vote (hypothetically) for two reasons I feel strongly about?
EDIT: You also said "Though to proove (sic) a point that this government is incompetent? no need, it has been clear for a number of years ..."
I don't believe our Government is anywhere near the level of incompetent people think they are but you have implied that is what I think. [Post edited 15 Jan 2019 22:30]
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:17 - Jan 15 with 2963 views | peterleeblue |
Same as before Remain |  | | |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:19 - Jan 15 with 2956 views | Lord_Lucan |
| If there was another referendum: on 20:44 - Jan 15 by jeera |
A close mate of mine has said he would vote Leave again if given the option, "on principle".
This guy is not a complete fool, so I was surprised at his attitude, but yes, I think there's probably quite a few with that sense of reasoning.
In that regard it seems there's people who really don't care about the outcome but are more interested in sticking to their guns. |
I voted remain and I would vote remain again - but the Swingometer would have edged a few percent to leave - and despite popular opinion I am also not a complete fool. |  |
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:21 - Jan 15 with 2950 views | gtsb |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:11 - Jan 15 by StokieBlue |
I would guess information.
As I said before, very few good decisions in human history were made on partial information.
SB |
And there you have it in one. Listen I'm not going to lie to you but I do feel immigration is out of control and I thought leaving the EU would help us get this under control but I realise now that the EU is so much more than I'd ever imagined it was and I've only scratched the surface by reading the papers and watching the news. It's way above my head. | | | |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:21 - Jan 15 with 2948 views | gordon |
The same as before, remain.
The whole thing has been a disgrace, it should obviously never have been put to a public vote.
And our politicians have been appalling, pretty much the lot of them, in not being honest about the situation to the electorate. |  | | |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:24 - Jan 15 with 2940 views | wkj |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:16 - Jan 15 by caught-in-limbo |
>>There were no insults in the post, well not intended.
I would suggest you earned a couple of your up-votes for the line "However, if you voted leave, but wanted to remain, just to prove a point - then you have pretty much resigned to acting like a bell end." Call it a ridiculous notion (and it is), it's still a veiled insult and always well-received by some. It's full of plausible deniability but a clever tactic nonetheless.
>> I did not miss the point, I understand you couldn't vote, and my language in the post highlights that with the use of the word "would"
You'll forgive me for thinking that you missed the point when you said "Lets just cut the fat, you are voting to leave, because you want to withdraw from the European Union, which is fine if that is what you believe."
>>If you would vote to leave because that is what you would want, then that is all you'd need to say instead of trying to justify it as to teach government a lesson.
How about me wanting to leave the EU and wanting to teach the government a lesson, is that not an option? Furthermore, who are you to tell me that I can't vote (hypothetically) for two reasons I feel strongly about?
EDIT: You also said "Though to proove (sic) a point that this government is incompetent? no need, it has been clear for a number of years ..."
I don't believe our Government is anywhere near the level of incompetent people think they are but you have implied that is what I think. [Post edited 15 Jan 2019 22:30]
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I used the words "Would" to the introduction of the post in the first three lines.
The rest was challenging two scenarios:
voting leave because they believed it was the right outcome
voting leave, while believing we should remain, but to try and prove a point
Hopefully that helps clear it up
EDIT: As for telling you how to vote(hypothetically or otherwise) I'm not - Just highlighting the fact you'd be trying to prove a point that has long been proven and known, as a sacrifice to your beliefs in what the outcome of a referendum should be. [Post edited 15 Jan 2019 22:29]
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:27 - Jan 15 with 2922 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:21 - Jan 15 by gtsb |
And there you have it in one. Listen I'm not going to lie to you but I do feel immigration is out of control and I thought leaving the EU would help us get this under control but I realise now that the EU is so much more than I'd ever imagined it was and I've only scratched the surface by reading the papers and watching the news. It's way above my head. |
Whilst I didn’t vote because of immigration (I voted because I didn’t like the idea that the EU had control of our laws), that paragraph is spot on.
Politicians know this stuff. They should have been making the Brecit decision - not people like us. | |
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:28 - Jan 15 with 2914 views | jjblue84 |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:03 - Jan 15 by wkj |
Only makes it 1 - 1 if the options on Ref 2 are
Leave
Remain
It is an entirely different Ref if the choices are
Leave with No Deal
Remain
or
Leave with deal
Remain
A three choice referendum is highly unlikely. |
Welcome to even deeper confusion! | | | |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:33 - Jan 15 with 2901 views | wkj |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:28 - Jan 15 by jjblue84 |
Welcome to even deeper confusion! |
A 2nd Ref with a No-deal option is almost certainly the best chance people who want no-deal will achieve it
The other is a GE being called and a party winning a landslide populated with a large presence of Euro-sceptics - which is nigh on impossible | |
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| If there was another referendum: on 22:34 - Jan 15 with 2896 views | jjblue84 |
| If there was another referendum: on 22:33 - Jan 15 by wkj |
A 2nd Ref with a No-deal option is almost certainly the best chance people who want no-deal will achieve it
The other is a GE being called and a party winning a landslide populated with a large presence of Euro-sceptics - which is nigh on impossible |
Referendums mean nothing, and you haven’t noticed! | | | |
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