| Shocking 22:05 - Jan 16 with 32901 views | Vic |
JC hasn’t yet responded to Mays invitation to meet with her to find a way forward. |  |
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| Shocking on 22:08 - Jan 16 with 7378 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Pickles and Grimboy often post insightful, well-reasoned arguments on here! [Post edited 22 Jan 2019 22:19]
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| Shocking on 22:09 - Jan 16 with 7362 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
and the general invitation was met with he needs the assurance that no deal is off the table. | |
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| Shocking on 22:11 - Jan 16 with 7348 views | GlasgowBlue |
Good old Jezza. He's met with the IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah, Bashar al-Assad and all manner of nasty people. All in the name of dialogue according to his fan club.
But he refuses to meet with Mrs May unless she accepts his terms. |  |
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| Shocking on 22:11 - Jan 16 with 7342 views | WD19 |
| Shocking on 22:08 - Jan 16 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Pickles and Grimboy often post insightful, well-reasoned arguments on here! [Post edited 22 Jan 2019 22:19]
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He will only come and talk if:
- A luxury hummer is sent to pick him up
- 'No deal' is magically ruled out before discussions even start
- He is served red M&M's by a dancing dwarf throughout the talks |  | | |
| Shocking on 22:11 - Jan 16 with 7332 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Shocking on 22:09 - Jan 16 by Nthsuffolkblue |
and the general invitation was met with he needs the assurance that no deal is off the table. |
Which makes no sense, as it literally is the only leverage she has.
He doesn’t want to get involved, as there being no progress was his best chance of forcing a GE |  | | |
| Shocking on 22:12 - Jan 16 with 7324 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Shocking on 22:08 - Jan 16 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Pickles and Grimboy often post insightful, well-reasoned arguments on here! [Post edited 22 Jan 2019 22:19]
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Who has reported this? She stood up in the HOC and invited all the party leaders to talks. | |
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| Shocking on 22:17 - Jan 16 with 7290 views | Vic |
| Shocking on 22:08 - Jan 16 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Pickles and Grimboy often post insightful, well-reasoned arguments on here! [Post edited 22 Jan 2019 22:19]
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She just stood outside number 10 and said that she’s already met with SNP, CC and LD’s but that JC has not responded. | |
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| Shocking on 22:17 - Jan 16 with 7291 views | pointofblue |
| Shocking on 22:11 - Jan 16 by ElderGrizzly |
Which makes no sense, as it literally is the only leverage she has.
He doesn’t want to get involved, as there being no progress was his best chance of forcing a GE |
I’m starting to get seriously worried about the quality of the opposition in this country now.
“We want you to renegotiate the deal with the EU but please promise to take away the only viable alternative you have first.”
I wonder whether they’ll insist on taking Hard Brexit off the ballot paper if there’s a people’s vote too??? |  |
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| Shocking on 22:18 - Jan 16 with 7275 views | GlasgowBlue |
Bizarre considering he has spent all day saying that she should be talking to him and other party leaders.
He really is a man of straw. | |
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| Shocking on 22:19 - Jan 16 with 7268 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Shocking on 22:11 - Jan 16 by GlasgowBlue |
Good old Jezza. He's met with the IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah, Bashar al-Assad and all manner of nasty people. All in the name of dialogue according to his fan club.
But he refuses to meet with Mrs May unless she accepts his terms. |
That's actually a very fair comment.
I do think Corbyn has no better answers than May and that is a big part of our problem. | |
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| Shocking on 22:23 - Jan 16 with 7243 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Shocking on 22:19 - Jan 16 by Nthsuffolkblue |
That's actually a very fair comment.
I do think Corbyn has no better answers than May and that is a big part of our problem. |
That's why a general election would have made no difference.
Momentum is with a people's vote. A large number of Labour MP's have signed a petition calling for one. I wonder if one of the Labour moderates will oppose him for the leadership again in the hope that the younger voters who backed Corbyn the last time, not realising his Eurosceptic stance, will turn against him in the hope a new leader will push for a people's vote? | |
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| Shocking on 22:26 - Jan 16 with 7232 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Shocking on 22:23 - Jan 16 by GlasgowBlue |
That's why a general election would have made no difference.
Momentum is with a people's vote. A large number of Labour MP's have signed a petition calling for one. I wonder if one of the Labour moderates will oppose him for the leadership again in the hope that the younger voters who backed Corbyn the last time, not realising his Eurosceptic stance, will turn against him in the hope a new leader will push for a people's vote? |
I think the issue is that there is no one who properly represents that group of people. The Remain representatives in the party have not taken a socialist stance that struck a chord with that group.
The Labour party is nearly as badly split as the Tory one is. | |
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| Shocking on 22:39 - Jan 16 with 7173 views | gtsb |
| Shocking on 22:26 - Jan 16 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I think the issue is that there is no one who properly represents that group of people. The Remain representatives in the party have not taken a socialist stance that struck a chord with that group.
The Labour party is nearly as badly split as the Tory one is. |
The Labour party is totally unelectable with JC as the leader and I've voted Labour most, not all , but most of my voting life. It doesn't matter if you are Labour, Tory, Liberal etc etc as we can all stand together as an electorate and say that in all our living memories this lot has to be the most incompetent we have ever known which is a tragedy for Britain. If there were an election tomorrow I doubt I'd find the enthusiasm to vote for anyone. |  | | |
| Shocking on 22:41 - Jan 16 with 7167 views | BloomBlue |
| Shocking on 22:09 - Jan 16 by Nthsuffolkblue |
and the general invitation was met with he needs the assurance that no deal is off the table. |
But that doesn't make any sense as that would be a red line and JC said that's why the Govenments negotiations failed because it had red lines. |  | | |
| Shocking on 22:43 - Jan 16 with 7134 views | Jonnosdreadlocks |
Have the two major parties had two more inept and useless leaders in charge at the same time? |  |
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| Shocking on 22:44 - Jan 16 with 7140 views | JakeITFC |
May hasn’t responded to two fuccking years of everybody saying her deal was a dead duck, so sympathy isn’t my immediate emotion.
The deal was bad, a no deal would be disastrous - which bit is Corbyn wrong about in that? |  | | |
| Shocking on 22:47 - Jan 16 with 7114 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Shocking on 22:44 - Jan 16 by JakeITFC |
May hasn’t responded to two fuccking years of everybody saying her deal was a dead duck, so sympathy isn’t my immediate emotion.
The deal was bad, a no deal would be disastrous - which bit is Corbyn wrong about in that? |
2 years? The Chequers deal was only put forward in July and the latest deal evolved from that. The deal is about 2 months old not 2 years.
You can't rule out no deal as it is in the law that we leave on March 29 and if we don't do a dea by then then no deal is the default.
Added to which, as EG points out, it's the only leverage May has. The EU don't want us leaving with no deal. [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 22:50]
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| Shocking on 22:49 - Jan 16 with 7105 views | gtsb |
| Shocking on 22:47 - Jan 16 by GlasgowBlue |
2 years? The Chequers deal was only put forward in July and the latest deal evolved from that. The deal is about 2 months old not 2 years.
You can't rule out no deal as it is in the law that we leave on March 29 and if we don't do a dea by then then no deal is the default.
Added to which, as EG points out, it's the only leverage May has. The EU don't want us leaving with no deal. [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 22:50]
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I still don't think we will leave. | | | |
| Shocking on 22:52 - Jan 16 with 7086 views | Vic |
| Shocking on 22:44 - Jan 16 by JakeITFC |
May hasn’t responded to two fuccking years of everybody saying her deal was a dead duck, so sympathy isn’t my immediate emotion.
The deal was bad, a no deal would be disastrous - which bit is Corbyn wrong about in that? |
He’s wrong in not responding immediatey to her offer to have some input. This is the man who when elected spoke about having. Anew sort of politics, one that spoke civilly to people, one that talked and negotiated with people rather than lecturing and shouting at them from a distance. Oh my, how things have changed! He won’t meet her because he has nothing to say, nothing to add and hopes that by keeping his distance he can make it seem like it’s all the Tories fault. Well sorry JC, if you don’t meet her then you have just forfieted that option. [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 22:52]
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| Shocking on 22:57 - Jan 16 with 7059 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Shocking on 22:44 - Jan 16 by JakeITFC |
May hasn’t responded to two fuccking years of everybody saying her deal was a dead duck, so sympathy isn’t my immediate emotion.
The deal was bad, a no deal would be disastrous - which bit is Corbyn wrong about in that? |
A no deal brexit would be challenging but it wouldn't be disastrous. |  |
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| Shocking on 22:58 - Jan 16 with 7057 views | lowhouseblue |
| Shocking on 22:52 - Jan 16 by Vic |
He’s wrong in not responding immediatey to her offer to have some input. This is the man who when elected spoke about having. Anew sort of politics, one that spoke civilly to people, one that talked and negotiated with people rather than lecturing and shouting at them from a distance. Oh my, how things have changed! He won’t meet her because he has nothing to say, nothing to add and hopes that by keeping his distance he can make it seem like it’s all the Tories fault. Well sorry JC, if you don’t meet her then you have just forfieted that option. [Post edited 16 Jan 2019 22:52]
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he doesn't have any interest in brexit other than that it might be a tool to bring about a general election. he has nothing else to say on the issue. and if by some freak he got a general election he would try and fight it without ever mentioning brexit. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Shocking on 23:02 - Jan 16 with 7023 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Shocking on 22:11 - Jan 16 by ElderGrizzly |
Which makes no sense, as it literally is the only leverage she has.
He doesn’t want to get involved, as there being no progress was his best chance of forcing a GE |
Is there a deal that May and Corbyn could agree that May could sell to her party?.....if not then it's all academic and they will carry on politicking with each other possibly until a no deal Brexit which keeps the Tories from splitting but they probably lose next election.....win/win!!
....answers on a postcard...... |  |
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| Shocking on 23:05 - Jan 16 with 7006 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Shocking on 22:23 - Jan 16 by GlasgowBlue |
That's why a general election would have made no difference.
Momentum is with a people's vote. A large number of Labour MP's have signed a petition calling for one. I wonder if one of the Labour moderates will oppose him for the leadership again in the hope that the younger voters who backed Corbyn the last time, not realising his Eurosceptic stance, will turn against him in the hope a new leader will push for a people's vote? |
Only if they want to guarantee losing the next election! imho | |
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| Shocking on 23:09 - Jan 16 with 6998 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Speaking as the local representative of the @narcho syndicalist party I have to say this is going a lot better than we dared to dream! | |
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