| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps 08:10 - Jan 18 with 4924 views | Bluefish |
The things that Lambert has done here, letter, fans, ex players etc. were pre planned and discussed with Evans in a strategy early on. He made lots of comments about the state of the place during the Boro game and he will know how the crowd had turned on MM despite the team being competitive. I expect it was discussed while considering the job and Marcus set a strategy to shield Lambert from that. Almost as if he has learned from roy that itfc lap up press conferences, learned from Mick that saying nice things are more important than results and learned from Paul Hurst that forgetting the heritage will lose support.
Or has Lambert ever done similar at any of his other clubs? |  |
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 08:17 - Jan 18 with 4874 views | wkj |
I feel Lambert has a different role here to other clubs, much like I think Mick McCarthy had. By this I feel they are paid to not only be 1st team managers, but club managers, so by that logic I feel it could also be Lambert exercising what he feels is the correct course of action given the remit of his role. [Post edited 18 Jan 2019 8:31]
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 08:20 - Jan 18 with 4862 views | WD19 |
I think it is planned. The letter appears to be written (in part) by someone else. It is more of a written up interview than the type of letter one person writes to another.
But that is absolutely not a dig. Planning and organising this stuff is just a sign of competence. It clearly comes naturally to him. |  | | |
| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 08:23 - Jan 18 with 4840 views | braveblue |
Marcus set a strategy. Really? Find that very hard to believe. |  | | |
| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 08:32 - Jan 18 with 4775 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 08:20 - Jan 18 by WD19 |
I think it is planned. The letter appears to be written (in part) by someone else. It is more of a written up interview than the type of letter one person writes to another.
But that is absolutely not a dig. Planning and organising this stuff is just a sign of competence. It clearly comes naturally to him. |
I genuinely don’t think it was written by someone else.
All those little phrases in the letter are Lamberts, like ‘one team in the town’ the support we’re getting is not normal for where we are’
All Lamberts sound bites. |  |
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 08:34 - Jan 18 with 4770 views | Reuser_is_God |
If you look at Lamberts last 3 jobs he’s gone into all of them at a similar stage in the season as to what he came in here.
Perhaps he’s just experienced all this before & feels that this ultra positive mantra he’s currently displaying is the correct way to go? | |
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 08:51 - Jan 18 with 4702 views | flimflam |
| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 08:34 - Jan 18 by Reuser_is_God |
If you look at Lamberts last 3 jobs he’s gone into all of them at a similar stage in the season as to what he came in here.
Perhaps he’s just experienced all this before & feels that this ultra positive mantra he’s currently displaying is the correct way to go? |
I also get the feeling he actually really likes it here and knows that he is onto a long term position if he wishes and will have the freedom to build and nourish his own team in his own way with no pressure from the board.
I know he has had short term positions elsewhere but surely any manager would like to have the job security and I know we are in dire straights at the moment but we are still a club managers want to work for. |  |
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 08:57 - Jan 18 with 4678 views | ArnieM |
Yes, you’re being VERY cynical. Anyway, communication of the level Lambert is doing, is totally beyond Evans. Get a Grip! |  |
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 09:00 - Jan 18 with 4657 views | Guthrum |
| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 08:20 - Jan 18 by WD19 |
I think it is planned. The letter appears to be written (in part) by someone else. It is more of a written up interview than the type of letter one person writes to another.
But that is absolutely not a dig. Planning and organising this stuff is just a sign of competence. It clearly comes naturally to him. |
Stylistically, an open letter is generally closer to an interview than to a communication between one person and another. He is, after all, expressing his thoughts to a large number of people, whom he does not know personally.
Less detatched than a press release "The Manager would like to thank the fans ...", not as formal as a stand up speech "Ladies and gentlemen of the Ipswich fanbase ...", it's a public declaration of one's private views, to set them on record, but effectively addressed to each individual. |  |
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 09:09 - Jan 18 with 4616 views | SWGF |
We are a close-knit club, very local. More so than Villa, for example. I'd say it's easier to connect with the fanbase at a more direct level, get the "us against the world" rhetoric whipped-up. Don't know whether he's done it previously...think he got Nodge going in that respect.
At this stage, I hope that he's doing all of this because he sees that there is the potential to build something, regardless of which league we find ourselves in, in August. The atmosphere around the club/at matches since he took over is chalk and cheese from what it's been for years. If he can, somehow, keep that feeling going (with the help of the Blue Action mob), then we might (bizarrely) be able to take some positive momentum into League One, if we end up there... |  |
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 09:27 - Jan 18 with 4550 views | rickw |
This is nothing to do with ME - he hasn't suddenly worked out how to liaise with fans!
This is all Lambert - he's a PR genius!
Lambert's record isn't any better than Hurst's, yet Lambert is loved by nearly all where-as Hurst is ridiculed.
Lambert getting the club legends, media and fans all on-side has been brilliant - it's enabled him to keep a good atmosphere in the stadium, which helps keep the players morale up which still gives us that little chance of turning things around. |  |
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 10:04 - Jan 18 with 4441 views | linhdi |
The night that Hurst left, and it was pretty much confirmed that Lambert was to be appointed, I was at an event at Carrot Road. I spoke to several of their fans and off-field management. They all said that the first thing Lambert did was being the whole club together, players, staff and fans.
So, it's how he works. | | | |
| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 10:08 - Jan 18 with 4415 views | ITFC_Forever |
My cynicism is around PL being clever, and getting the fans on-side, so if we go down, he walks away with no blame and leaves ME as the fall-guy.
Or if we stay up, and ME doesn't provide the funds PL wants, again, it's all on ME.
By getting the fans on PL's side, it puts massive pressure on ME.
I want to buy in to the PL hyperbole, but there's a part of me holding back in case it all goes wrong.
That said, PL is certainly doing all the right things, and we know ME has his critics anyway. |  |
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 10:09 - Jan 18 with 4407 views | No9 |
I would suggest that at least a part of the interviewing process was how to win back the fans and give the place a less dour atmosphere.
The positive attitude is infectious, that can only be a good thing and make it a much more pleasant place to go than was the case before he arrived | | | |
| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 10:11 - Jan 18 with 4397 views | Bluefish |
| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 10:08 - Jan 18 by ITFC_Forever |
My cynicism is around PL being clever, and getting the fans on-side, so if we go down, he walks away with no blame and leaves ME as the fall-guy.
Or if we stay up, and ME doesn't provide the funds PL wants, again, it's all on ME.
By getting the fans on PL's side, it puts massive pressure on ME.
I want to buy in to the PL hyperbole, but there's a part of me holding back in case it all goes wrong.
That said, PL is certainly doing all the right things, and we know ME has his critics anyway. |
Probably a wise move. I am cautiously appreciating it without diving in. So many were desperate for PH to be the answer that they claimed everyday about the wonderful stuff he was doing and how amazing he is, it made it hard for many of them to accept and you could see their troubled minds working overtime. Similar also with keane | |
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 10:39 - Jan 18 with 4313 views | No9 |
| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 10:08 - Jan 18 by ITFC_Forever |
My cynicism is around PL being clever, and getting the fans on-side, so if we go down, he walks away with no blame and leaves ME as the fall-guy.
Or if we stay up, and ME doesn't provide the funds PL wants, again, it's all on ME.
By getting the fans on PL's side, it puts massive pressure on ME.
I want to buy in to the PL hyperbole, but there's a part of me holding back in case it all goes wrong.
That said, PL is certainly doing all the right things, and we know ME has his critics anyway. |
On the face of it ME has brought in PL to do a healing & re-build job
It would be bad for PL to say "this is what I'm told to do & if it all goes tits up I'm out of here" wouldn't it.
PL showed in his dealing with the budgies he is contract savvy I believe, for waht it's worth' ME had seen that Mr Milne was part of the problem & if he were to try to re-build ITFC it would have to be on what PL had made a part of his T's & C's for taking the job.
The writing is on teh wall for ME he either has to gamble on football people pullign an iron out of the fire OR accept relegation.
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| Very cynical buh on 10:46 - Jan 18 with 4283 views | Dyland |
but not necessarily wrong.
I don't know matey, have you watched him on the touchline? Not sure I recall similar histrionics (in a good way) at his other clubs. Norwich maybe. I get a strong impression he genuinely loves it here and the challenge. I'm not assuming he'll stay if and when we're relegated though. |  |
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| Exactly on 10:49 - Jan 18 with 4269 views | Dyland |
| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 09:00 - Jan 18 by Guthrum |
Stylistically, an open letter is generally closer to an interview than to a communication between one person and another. He is, after all, expressing his thoughts to a large number of people, whom he does not know personally.
Less detatched than a press release "The Manager would like to thank the fans ...", not as formal as a stand up speech "Ladies and gentlemen of the Ipswich fanbase ...", it's a public declaration of one's private views, to set them on record, but effectively addressed to each individual. |
P.S. "Ladies and gentlemen of the Ipswich fanbase ..."
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 12:08 - Jan 18 with 4185 views | caught-in-limbo |
You'd hope the marketing/PR department would have stuff like this covered, but recent history would suggest not. So, it certainly seems to be PL's idea at least. I agree with others that it's unlikely to be all his own wording so I suppose he got a fair amount of the "nail on head" stuff from actual fans / fan groups. |  |
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| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 12:24 - Jan 18 with 4141 views | itfcjoe |
| Am I being too cynical to suggest that perhaps on 08:51 - Jan 18 by flimflam |
I also get the feeling he actually really likes it here and knows that he is onto a long term position if he wishes and will have the freedom to build and nourish his own team in his own way with no pressure from the board.
I know he has had short term positions elsewhere but surely any manager would like to have the job security and I know we are in dire straights at the moment but we are still a club managers want to work for. |
He's also in a position where if we go down his stock will be relatively low - 2 successive relegations in effect.
But I think he can see this is a decent job here with little interference where he will have time to turn it round - and most of our managers under Evans would say he is a good owner to work for (if a little short of cash!) |  |
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| Very cynical buh on 12:32 - Jan 18 with 4108 views | Ryorry |
| Very cynical buh on 10:46 - Jan 18 by Dyland |
but not necessarily wrong.
I don't know matey, have you watched him on the touchline? Not sure I recall similar histrionics (in a good way) at his other clubs. Norwich maybe. I get a strong impression he genuinely loves it here and the challenge. I'm not assuming he'll stay if and when we're relegated though. |
Sometimes humans do just make an emotional connection, not necessarily always completely rational, with things and places that they come across. I did that with ITFC in the early-mid 70s when I lived in the town, and I'd never had any interest in football before. Who's to say that PL hasn't made such a personal connection? We might never know for sure, but to me his comments and body language, combined with my instincts (only let me down in my long life twice before!) say that he has. |  |
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