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However, far away..... 20:07 - Jan 19 with 5732 viewsMullet

In the wilds of the frozen North, a few hundred Ipswich fans were stuck in the loft of Ewood Park awaiting their team. A long way from safety, and even further from the pitch as the stand sat empty below us.

Debutant Judge made a bow and settled a few questions about where he would fit into Lambert’s system. On the right wing mostly, Sears on the left with Keane in the Irishman’s preferred position and Quaner in his up top. Skuse and Chalobah made a defensive pair of midfielders ahead of the same back five. Gerken marshalling Pennington, Chambers, Collins and Elder.

Blackburn had an odd line up and shape that flittered between Bennet as a full back and wing back, and Dack as a deep lying play maker for the odd minute before running beyond Evans to join Graham’s slipstream. Sometimes they had 3 at the back sometimes 4, the same up front and you could not always tell if it was because of Ipswich’s weaknesses.

The game kicked off in fairly unremarkable fashion. It wasn’t until Cole Skuse marked an opening 24 minutes of uncharacteristic casualness on the ball in the 6th minute or so, that it got going. “Man on” would have helped, especially as there were two, but he looked like a man rushed back from injury and unable to rush anyway, as a stray orange calf blocked the ball behind for an early corner.

Moving from fairly solid defence of Reed’s set pieces, Town put every man back and the height of the front two helped to make a shield wall across the six-yard box rarely seen in mini-season under the mini-manager when we last played Blackburn.

Town looked far from confident as Gerken switched from centreback to centreback, and the ball moved across the fissures this system calls for. With Judge and Keane constantly looking for it in far off channels just beyond our own 18-yard box, there was hope, but little evidence either would alleviate Rovers’ dominance between the semi-circles.

Ipswich were facing a keeper and two full backs that didn’t look like they had revised for any test today, but time and again retention was not better than before kick off and we failed to do more than overlap and overhit all too often.

Judge found Sears with an exquisite long ball that was completely passing by both teams until the wideman could bring it inside. But again, support and belief let us down long before our delivery could.

Blackburn looked to have the opposite in terms of presence up front, but on the overlap a man was always spare. Both Pennington and Elder were asked to deal with high balls, through balls and a decision on where to place their studs. When Bennett screamed through at the back post, his shot matched his run and nearly hit us away fans. It was a let off that saw Town shook.

Not long after Dack was lifting the ball after lifting himself off the turf from a soft free kick. The game had played on until the long-haired midfielder had decided he didn’t want to. Sitting down centrally the resulting effort was turned away and just went the right side of the post for a corner. As it came back in, we all watched the ball as it bounced off the foot of the post with Gerken beaten.

In the maelstrom of poor decisions from Lambert’s defence and poor possession from both midfielders, Town saw Dack race down the flank in a rare wide appearance and try and lift the ball over Gerken. Collins cleared away what should have been a stronger effort and sure goal. Soon after Lambert switched the wingers before Armstrong repeated the move and tested Deano’s gloves with a straight stinger, easily palmed out.

The lack of protection for either full back may have seemed unnecessary given Rovers’ dearth out wide, but when they moved en masse from side to side it loosened Town’s resolve.

Ipswich deserved to be behind at half time but could have lead minutes before the break. Quaner who had carved gaps in the defence, often enough for Chalobah to pick the wrong one, then drew Lenihan in from an off-side position.

Leaving the ball, the German got the defender to follow suit and Keane raced through. Raya flapped and blew the oncomer too wide and too far. With not enough time or men to get in the box again the ball cannoned out for a corner.

This was a month of games where Lambert revisits his exes’ and trying to get balls in or even near their box is going to be a huge problem it seems. Our survival might hinge on it, thanks to narrowness and depth of running from Judge and the crowding from either central midfielder it was hard to know if this was 4-2-3-1 or lopsided 4-3-3 at times.

It was crucial with Ipswich still in the game, they took the break to reassess and change. Mogga substituted Reed and swapped Armstrong over to Elder’s side. Town gave a cheap free kick away on the edge of the box when they had 3 to 1 in their favour. This seemed to be telling.

Blackburn’s dominance was a silent acknowledgement over the game, hanging more like bad breath than bad intentions in the queue to full time. Nonetheless, Sears sought the ball cleverly down the left and with Elder overlapping, Quaner was just three yards out but with his back to goal. As it came across the German looped it over with the outside of his boot. Keane waggled the outside of his hand demanding the next one comes to him as he seemed to do on his debut the other week.

The home fans barely made sound all day, there was ripple of frustrated encouragement across the attic seats, thudding dully across the rafters. That would change as Blackburn grew into the game. Judge won cheap fouls in reasonably good positions, but most of Town’s set pieces floated into Raya’s hands or beyond his grasp with little threat.

When the end of the deadlock came it was like all fatal moments, unclear and out of nowhere. I’m sure we’re all overjoyed Armstrong survived what appeared to be a landmine he stepped on, almost gallantly given Elder was chasing in behind him and sure to have triggered it next. As the referee took his time and the linesman wanted nothing to do with it, Chambers earned a booking thanks to the crowd not liking him stepping over the spotted ball. The referee with his back to it all gave him the card, somebody else deserved.

Gerken’s dive was just as good as the spotkick. Alas, he went the wrong way as Graham almost pointed to where he was going to put it, well inside the post and slowly. Town were behind. Always behind.

Lankester made a birthday bow on his 19th. Quaner withdrawn and Keane moving up top.
The sub went on the right and Judge went centrally. Presiding over where the ball should be, as the evidence stacked up against the away side.

It was not to be Lankester who would make an instant impact from the bench, but Blackburn’s Nuttall. This time Armstrong did Elder on the other side, strafing across him and firing a machine gun pass into the middle. All of Town’s defenders were cut asunder as the youth team product blasted home a doubler and killed Town off.

A lack of tactical discipline from us and actual discipline from them was all that perhaps we can cling to in terms of unjust actions being done upon us. Bennett could not catch Sears at one point, so pushed him into the hoarding playground style. No card but a free kick. This was topping what in the first half seemed to be the clearest booking you’ll see all season as Lenihan did the same to Quaner as the German cross the halfway line and the defender cut him off at the knees. When he was finally booked for a nasty tackle in the second half the decision was not lost on many travelling fans.

The pinnacle of what should have been given to us, when we did little to deserve anything was a clear handball to deny a goal bound shot. Bennett who had also lunged in on a countering Sears, stuck his arm out to deflect it out for a corner. The ref beat his chest like an emasculated gorilla. His understanding of biology, up there with that of physics and the laws of the game.

Lambert put Bishop in late on to become the third player in the hole, and the number in over their heads into double figures. Rejigging the lines to make what might not have been a 4-4-1-1 as Dack and his mates cannoned balls over the bar and the game well and truly beyond us.

Once again Town find themselves riding their luck, then setting fire to it in a bin like the division’s paupers we seem so keen to be. Hurst’s player’s all but banished frim sight, it’s easy to see why some are now looking cynically at Lambert and seeing a relationship between points for the PR, but little points at or away from PR. But the picture is bigger and darker than that alone.

We lined up again with changes, new faces and little looking like we could do more than steal a 0-0 until we leant our soft bellies onto the cutting edge of reality at this level. If we go down, we deserve to thanks to displays like today being seen too often.

Elder showed that like most of Lambert’s signings, if it wasn’t for injury or circumstance they’d not be here. Cementing his place as the second best left back at the club for now, he was merely the temple on which today’s knock out blows fell. Had we played out 1st choice, we may have left with stolen parity and a point. Keane is the man with gold in boots, and if we fail to put every attack through him, we are foolish because not only does he want the ball, but the ball wants to be with him if it has any chance of finding the goal.


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However, far away..... on 21:06 - Jan 19 with 5589 viewscbower

We could have taken something from that game. In the end, we again went out with a whimper but they were no great shakes by any means. Elder is no better than Kenlock. His positional sense for both goals was poor and far too many times he simply played the percentage ball looped down the line. Jonas might well have an iron in the fire but if nobody comes in for him, is he to remain consigned to the stands for the rest of the season? Skuse is so far off being at it, it is difficult to watch. Trevoh flatters to deceive but he will come good about 18 to 24 months too late for Town. Judge, Quaner and Keane will improve us for sure but it will not be straight away. Keane in particular looks decent. Sears sees so much of the ball in threatening positions but it rarely results in anything genuinely threatening. He may well be next to lose his place. Clever move by Rovers to isolate us up in the gods. Bet the players could neither hear nor feel the support we were so far away. We will be better but I doubt we will be good enough quickly enough.

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However, far away..... on 21:53 - Jan 19 with 5496 viewsJohnny_Boy

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However, far away..... on 22:21 - Jan 19 with 5410 viewsmadmouse1959

The Skuse-Chalobah thing does not seem to be working and yes, it is time to give Freddie a rest i,m sorry to say.

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However, far away..... on 23:32 - Jan 19 with 5276 viewsNthsuffolkblue

However, far away..... on 22:21 - Jan 19 by madmouse1959

The Skuse-Chalobah thing does not seem to be working and yes, it is time to give Freddie a rest i,m sorry to say.


Problem is none of our potential wide men seem to prefer playing wide. We need one of Quaner, Judge or Sears out there if not 2 of them.

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However, far away..... on 08:24 - Jan 20 with 5083 viewsStadiumofdark

However, far away..... on 23:32 - Jan 19 by Nthsuffolkblue

Problem is none of our potential wide men seem to prefer playing wide. We need one of Quaner, Judge or Sears out there if not 2 of them.


We've signed about 200 players in the last 12 months, but Sears still starts. That's how poor we've become

(Clearly I'm right, rather than the 3 managers that have picked him)
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However, far away..... on 08:31 - Jan 20 with 5062 viewsArnieM

However, far away..... on 08:24 - Jan 20 by Stadiumofdark

We've signed about 200 players in the last 12 months, but Sears still starts. That's how poor we've become

(Clearly I'm right, rather than the 3 managers that have picked him)


Exactly right.

I repeat :

The problem is the Town side is in perpetual change this season. There has never been a settled , established 11 since the season begun. The quality of the starting squad in August was very questionable, and we feel so far off the pace , so quickly it was always going to be a relegation battle from then on.

None of the current problems we see are Paul Lamberts fault. He has been forced to do
“ temporary measures” and bring in yet more loanees to improve the quality in the squad. You cannot expect yet another “ new” set of players to suddenly click together.

All we can try and do is muddle through and allow time ( of which we have Little now) for players to gel. If we can focus on winning our remaking home games with the fans behind the team and grabbing the odd point away we might, just might scrap to safety. We are 7 points off Rotherham. It IS doable. But let’s not lose faith in the best manager we’ve had since Burley .

COYBsss

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However, far away..... on 09:06 - Jan 20 with 5013 viewsMullet

However, far away..... on 21:06 - Jan 19 by cbower

We could have taken something from that game. In the end, we again went out with a whimper but they were no great shakes by any means. Elder is no better than Kenlock. His positional sense for both goals was poor and far too many times he simply played the percentage ball looped down the line. Jonas might well have an iron in the fire but if nobody comes in for him, is he to remain consigned to the stands for the rest of the season? Skuse is so far off being at it, it is difficult to watch. Trevoh flatters to deceive but he will come good about 18 to 24 months too late for Town. Judge, Quaner and Keane will improve us for sure but it will not be straight away. Keane in particular looks decent. Sears sees so much of the ball in threatening positions but it rarely results in anything genuinely threatening. He may well be next to lose his place. Clever move by Rovers to isolate us up in the gods. Bet the players could neither hear nor feel the support we were so far away. We will be better but I doubt we will be good enough quickly enough.


Generally agree there. Although I do think it's a clear hierarchy of Jonas>Elder>Kenlock at this level. Collins was getting slated by some women on my walk up the hill, which I found really interesting "wobbly" they were saying.

Chambers had that one header which he glanced into the six yard box in the 1st half, Collins that one back across goal late on. Maybe he should have marshalled Elder better?

Skuse had his bad game, he improved but when Trevoh is off form like he was and constantly trying the simple and complicated passes when the other is needed, it's no wonder we broke down play.

Judge was underwhelming and that's no great surprise. He is another new face and sums up what so much churn does to us. We've signed enough to players to field four teams this season, that's appalling and killing us.

Sears should have been dropped for me, he's just not been at it lately and needed a rest. I'd have Quaner out wide smashing into Bell and Judge behind Keane where his lack of legs isn't an issue. Lankester down the left would have pinned Reed back and allowed us to swap wingers properly.

I fear we can't afford to lose another home game, or lose the remaining away games. But at least the gap stayed the same.

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However, far away..... on 09:11 - Jan 20 with 4991 viewsMullet

However, far away..... on 08:31 - Jan 20 by ArnieM

Exactly right.

I repeat :

The problem is the Town side is in perpetual change this season. There has never been a settled , established 11 since the season begun. The quality of the starting squad in August was very questionable, and we feel so far off the pace , so quickly it was always going to be a relegation battle from then on.

None of the current problems we see are Paul Lamberts fault. He has been forced to do
“ temporary measures” and bring in yet more loanees to improve the quality in the squad. You cannot expect yet another “ new” set of players to suddenly click together.

All we can try and do is muddle through and allow time ( of which we have Little now) for players to gel. If we can focus on winning our remaking home games with the fans behind the team and grabbing the odd point away we might, just might scrap to safety. We are 7 points off Rotherham. It IS doable. But let’s not lose faith in the best manager we’ve had since Burley .

COYBsss


I can see why some people are starting to blame Lambert, I'm not sure it's fair though. Certainly Bristol and Millwall shows he isn't able to fix what was wrong with say Bolton in our home form.

We still haven't got a manager who can change a game in play with a switch of formation or sub like Mick would do with great success.

If this losing by 2 away from home continues I can see the shallow end of the gene pool raising a tsunami of dickheadedness again against Lambert, because well, it doesn't matter who's in charge when it comes to it for some people does it?

The biggest problem Lambert faces is that he can only replace quality like Jonas with prospects like Elder or problem players at other clubs.

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However, far away..... on 10:06 - Jan 20 with 4907 viewsWhymarkmariner

However, far away..... on 09:11 - Jan 20 by Mullet

I can see why some people are starting to blame Lambert, I'm not sure it's fair though. Certainly Bristol and Millwall shows he isn't able to fix what was wrong with say Bolton in our home form.

We still haven't got a manager who can change a game in play with a switch of formation or sub like Mick would do with great success.

If this losing by 2 away from home continues I can see the shallow end of the gene pool raising a tsunami of dickheadedness again against Lambert, because well, it doesn't matter who's in charge when it comes to it for some people does it?

The biggest problem Lambert faces is that he can only replace quality like Jonas with prospects like Elder or problem players at other clubs.


However poorly the other side plays we are still incapable of beating them. Sears has been poor for the last few games, missing chances and giving away free kicks in dangerous places, also finding himself up field with an easy pass to a fellow player to score and not making it. As pointed out by Marcus Stewart with the current midfield setup we don't have a creative player in that position.I do think the new players will make a difference, but once again it was pointed out that those players were perhaps second choices and had we been two or three points from safety better quality signings would have been made. With regard to the teams that we have been playing it does seem that most of them have high impact players on the subs bench and when they are brought on the complexion of the game changes whereas when we bring a sub on no visible difference is seen and in some cases we are worse.
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However, far away..... on 10:31 - Jan 20 with 4855 viewsElephantintheRoom

However, far away..... on 08:31 - Jan 20 by ArnieM

Exactly right.

I repeat :

The problem is the Town side is in perpetual change this season. There has never been a settled , established 11 since the season begun. The quality of the starting squad in August was very questionable, and we feel so far off the pace , so quickly it was always going to be a relegation battle from then on.

None of the current problems we see are Paul Lamberts fault. He has been forced to do
“ temporary measures” and bring in yet more loanees to improve the quality in the squad. You cannot expect yet another “ new” set of players to suddenly click together.

All we can try and do is muddle through and allow time ( of which we have Little now) for players to gel. If we can focus on winning our remaking home games with the fans behind the team and grabbing the odd point away we might, just might scrap to safety. We are 7 points off Rotherham. It IS doable. But let’s not lose faith in the best manager we’ve had since Burley .

COYBsss


None of the current problems are Paul Lambert's fault? Excuse me, but he's created plenty of rods for his own back. The full back situation has been dubious from day one and just got worse, he puts in temps at 24 hours notice and seems surprised they play like strangers, he's packed in non-scoring borrowed strikers rather than perservere with what he had, ignored a winger who has looked quite good on occasions, set his stall on a new central defence with a combined aged of 100 or thereabouts, persisted with the pointless Chalobah. Oh and if anything the goalie situation is now worse than it was too. Even the 'great PR' soundbite reputation has been tarnished a bit by declaring short termism sheer madness - and then getting in another six. He's made plenty of mistakes that MM would have been pilloried for, but gets away with it through his relentless charm offensive

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However, far away..... on 10:42 - Jan 20 with 4816 viewsMullet

However, far away..... on 10:06 - Jan 20 by Whymarkmariner

However poorly the other side plays we are still incapable of beating them. Sears has been poor for the last few games, missing chances and giving away free kicks in dangerous places, also finding himself up field with an easy pass to a fellow player to score and not making it. As pointed out by Marcus Stewart with the current midfield setup we don't have a creative player in that position.I do think the new players will make a difference, but once again it was pointed out that those players were perhaps second choices and had we been two or three points from safety better quality signings would have been made. With regard to the teams that we have been playing it does seem that most of them have high impact players on the subs bench and when they are brought on the complexion of the game changes whereas when we bring a sub on no visible difference is seen and in some cases we are worse.


I think Lankester has the potential to do that, he's no different to Nuttall in that regard, the difference being that had someone make the chance for him in Armstrong.

We are at a massive disadvantage thanks to Evans' funding/decision-making and the lack of continuity in getting rid of Mick through to the present day. It's beginning to wear on us.

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However, far away..... on 10:52 - Jan 20 with 4790 viewsMullet

However, far away..... on 10:31 - Jan 20 by ElephantintheRoom

None of the current problems are Paul Lambert's fault? Excuse me, but he's created plenty of rods for his own back. The full back situation has been dubious from day one and just got worse, he puts in temps at 24 hours notice and seems surprised they play like strangers, he's packed in non-scoring borrowed strikers rather than perservere with what he had, ignored a winger who has looked quite good on occasions, set his stall on a new central defence with a combined aged of 100 or thereabouts, persisted with the pointless Chalobah. Oh and if anything the goalie situation is now worse than it was too. Even the 'great PR' soundbite reputation has been tarnished a bit by declaring short termism sheer madness - and then getting in another six. He's made plenty of mistakes that MM would have been pilloried for, but gets away with it through his relentless charm offensive


As ever, that's not quite true is it? You're talking in the same kind of extremes as those you mock.

There were some that were delusional and fanatical when Hurst came in, as a remedy to their same ignorant views on Mick. They'd have collected the sweat off the little man's nuts and told us it was ambrosia. They oddly went quiet, or did a Stalinist U-turn after being abusive and weird early doors insisting they never backed him much if at all etc.

However, there is a spectrum from there as there is with Lambert. I see very view people treating him in the same way. People are just so starved of things to love about us right now and in some cases guilty about how they treated the previous two and any dissent to their view, that it's natural this "PR" will be welcomed.

Regardless, it's a good thing Lambert is doing this. He was right that the club needed rebuilding, Mick did much of it, and Evans allowed Hurst to plant dynamite all over the foundations.

That's where the "Be careful what you wish for" stuff really leaves a bruise. It only works if you pretend Hurst was never here, or was sabotaged by a bloke who left months in advance and left him a decent squad. We've gone from Mick to a bloke as close to him as we could have got and are back at 2012 - the difference being we're not getting results and are coming at it from a very different angle because of all that's happened in between.

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However, far away..... on 11:17 - Jan 20 with 4756 viewsElephantintheRoom

However, far away..... on 10:52 - Jan 20 by Mullet

As ever, that's not quite true is it? You're talking in the same kind of extremes as those you mock.

There were some that were delusional and fanatical when Hurst came in, as a remedy to their same ignorant views on Mick. They'd have collected the sweat off the little man's nuts and told us it was ambrosia. They oddly went quiet, or did a Stalinist U-turn after being abusive and weird early doors insisting they never backed him much if at all etc.

However, there is a spectrum from there as there is with Lambert. I see very view people treating him in the same way. People are just so starved of things to love about us right now and in some cases guilty about how they treated the previous two and any dissent to their view, that it's natural this "PR" will be welcomed.

Regardless, it's a good thing Lambert is doing this. He was right that the club needed rebuilding, Mick did much of it, and Evans allowed Hurst to plant dynamite all over the foundations.

That's where the "Be careful what you wish for" stuff really leaves a bruise. It only works if you pretend Hurst was never here, or was sabotaged by a bloke who left months in advance and left him a decent squad. We've gone from Mick to a bloke as close to him as we could have got and are back at 2012 - the difference being we're not getting results and are coming at it from a very different angle because of all that's happened in between.


Well yes - point taken. I'm not being anti PL, far from it - they are his mistakes to make.... just pointing out that he has made lots of short term changes that seem dubious at best, having declared it madness. Cant see the current situation ending happily. IF Town stay up they will still need a complete rebuild as the short termers will be off and the large number of contracted players will be utterly disillusioned, if not already. Ditto if Town go down. Which is a shame because I suspect at least 50% of Hurst's signings would have been OK with the right encouragement, not to mention the young plaers forever on the fringe. The shame of it all is that the bottom four are so poor that staying up would not have been a big ask if he had managed with what he already had.

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However, far away..... on 15:48 - Jan 20 with 4615 viewsMullet

However, far away..... on 11:17 - Jan 20 by ElephantintheRoom

Well yes - point taken. I'm not being anti PL, far from it - they are his mistakes to make.... just pointing out that he has made lots of short term changes that seem dubious at best, having declared it madness. Cant see the current situation ending happily. IF Town stay up they will still need a complete rebuild as the short termers will be off and the large number of contracted players will be utterly disillusioned, if not already. Ditto if Town go down. Which is a shame because I suspect at least 50% of Hurst's signings would have been OK with the right encouragement, not to mention the young plaers forever on the fringe. The shame of it all is that the bottom four are so poor that staying up would not have been a big ask if he had managed with what he already had.


I'm not sure if you mean Hurst or Lambert at the end.

The squad churn myth that Hurst was "forced" into it needs to die, that simply wasn't the case then, as those discussed above previously insisted.

However, I have to ask what else could Lambert do? He didn't say it was something he wouldn't but shouldn't do. Given how Hurst ruined Bart and many other players on and off the field, it's hard to see how those stepping up were left in a position to make a success of it.

We overpaid for every single one of them, something Mick rarely did and totally ruined the ethos of the squad in doing so. As above the question is who stays wherever we end up.

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However, far away..... on 16:19 - Jan 20 with 4583 viewsDarth_Koont

However, far away..... on 10:52 - Jan 20 by Mullet

As ever, that's not quite true is it? You're talking in the same kind of extremes as those you mock.

There were some that were delusional and fanatical when Hurst came in, as a remedy to their same ignorant views on Mick. They'd have collected the sweat off the little man's nuts and told us it was ambrosia. They oddly went quiet, or did a Stalinist U-turn after being abusive and weird early doors insisting they never backed him much if at all etc.

However, there is a spectrum from there as there is with Lambert. I see very view people treating him in the same way. People are just so starved of things to love about us right now and in some cases guilty about how they treated the previous two and any dissent to their view, that it's natural this "PR" will be welcomed.

Regardless, it's a good thing Lambert is doing this. He was right that the club needed rebuilding, Mick did much of it, and Evans allowed Hurst to plant dynamite all over the foundations.

That's where the "Be careful what you wish for" stuff really leaves a bruise. It only works if you pretend Hurst was never here, or was sabotaged by a bloke who left months in advance and left him a decent squad. We've gone from Mick to a bloke as close to him as we could have got and are back at 2012 - the difference being we're not getting results and are coming at it from a very different angle because of all that's happened in between.


Well said.

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However, far away..... on 18:20 - Jan 20 with 4495 viewsWhymarkmariner

However, far away..... on 16:19 - Jan 20 by Darth_Koont

Well said.


Having both looked at the situation come the beginning of January ME and PL would have decided to take the cheap option. Bring in five players who were surplus to requirements at other clubs, but were experienced and see where we ended up. Which in all honesty is going to be Division One. Most of these players will probably go at the end of the season obviously depending on how they shape up and how much they cost wages wise to keep. If it's true that TV revenue is some 7 million less then those such as Chambers, Skuse and Bishop would have to content themselves with considerably less. Bart and Knudsen will I suspect both go, unless with the case of Knudsen he leaves anytime soon. It does concern me to a certain extent that we will be good enough to bounce back.
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However, far away..... on 19:36 - Jan 20 with 4432 viewsMullet

However, far away..... on 18:20 - Jan 20 by Whymarkmariner

Having both looked at the situation come the beginning of January ME and PL would have decided to take the cheap option. Bring in five players who were surplus to requirements at other clubs, but were experienced and see where we ended up. Which in all honesty is going to be Division One. Most of these players will probably go at the end of the season obviously depending on how they shape up and how much they cost wages wise to keep. If it's true that TV revenue is some 7 million less then those such as Chambers, Skuse and Bishop would have to content themselves with considerably less. Bart and Knudsen will I suspect both go, unless with the case of Knudsen he leaves anytime soon. It does concern me to a certain extent that we will be good enough to bounce back.


I guess had we landed Gestede and Leadbitter for £80k per week and still been in this scenario we'd have people lamenting the wastage.

He's caught between two stools here, and it's all ME's making in my opinion. He should have treated Mick better and got rid earlier or stuck to his convictions and kept him on with massive backing this summer and left the critics with little recourse other than to twist their complaints up around themselves.

Knudsen and Bart will have to go even if we stay up. I can't see them justifying the wages or wanting to be here for different reasons. To think Hurst ruined them and sold off the rest of the squad of similar importance is heartbreaking.

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However, far away..... on 19:58 - Jan 20 with 4404 viewsreusersfreekicks

However, far away..... on 19:36 - Jan 20 by Mullet

I guess had we landed Gestede and Leadbitter for £80k per week and still been in this scenario we'd have people lamenting the wastage.

He's caught between two stools here, and it's all ME's making in my opinion. He should have treated Mick better and got rid earlier or stuck to his convictions and kept him on with massive backing this summer and left the critics with little recourse other than to twist their complaints up around themselves.

Knudsen and Bart will have to go even if we stay up. I can't see them justifying the wages or wanting to be here for different reasons. To think Hurst ruined them and sold off the rest of the squad of similar importance is heartbreaking.


Hurst had many faults but completely blaming him for Bart and Knudsen's loss of form is overly simplistic.
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However, far away..... on 20:00 - Jan 20 with 4395 viewsMullet

However, far away..... on 19:58 - Jan 20 by reusersfreekicks

Hurst had many faults but completely blaming him for Bart and Knudsen's loss of form is overly simplistic.


No it's not. It's based on how he treated them, "managed" them and what's happened since.

You cannot underestimate the damage he did to every aspect of the team here. Openly abusing and questioning senior players out of insecurity and incompetence pushed us down this path very quickly.

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However, far away..... on 20:15 - Jan 20 with 4355 viewsbrogansnose

However, far away..... on 20:00 - Jan 20 by Mullet

No it's not. It's based on how he treated them, "managed" them and what's happened since.

You cannot underestimate the damage he did to every aspect of the team here. Openly abusing and questioning senior players out of insecurity and incompetence pushed us down this path very quickly.


Standing by Bart and saying out loud, " How much are you paid ? £20 grand a week ?" Nice man mangement you little fk.




Seriously, and given I'm in Sheffield quite a lot and I've met one of his best mates who is an aquaitance of my lot, I'm gonna have him.
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However, far away..... on 20:18 - Jan 20 with 4345 viewsMullet

However, far away..... on 20:15 - Jan 20 by brogansnose

Standing by Bart and saying out loud, " How much are you paid ? £20 grand a week ?" Nice man mangement you little fk.




Seriously, and given I'm in Sheffield quite a lot and I've met one of his best mates who is an aquaitance of my lot, I'm gonna have him.


Just a rumour though right Brogs? Not at all backed up by anything more than us keyboard boys eh?

Don't be getting arrested now. See you next week?

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However, far away..... on 20:22 - Jan 20 with 4330 viewsbrogansnose

However, far away..... on 20:18 - Jan 20 by Mullet

Just a rumour though right Brogs? Not at all backed up by anything more than us keyboard boys eh?

Don't be getting arrested now. See you next week?


Yeah, see you next mate.




Look forward to it.
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