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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum 20:47 - Jan 19 with 6436 viewsElderGrizzly

Go on Vince!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/19/ministers-second-brexit-referen
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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:00 - Jan 20 with 735 viewsClapham_Junction

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 21:26 - Jan 19 by grimboy

I know I’m a goon.
I won’t get involved with name calling I’ll let the likes of you do that.


So it wasn't you that used the term "remoaners" earlier in this thread? Because it looked quite a lot like it was.

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum by grimboy 19 Jan 21:00
We already had a referendum why do we want another? So if the leave voters win again shall we have another till we get the result the old remoaners want?

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:04 - Jan 20 with 708 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 23:25 - Jan 19 by Nthsuffolkblue

and they would have made it clear leaving with May's deal is what they want.

That would be democracy.

I don't get that those who wanted to "hand back control" are so frightened of that control.


In fact here is how May should do it:

"We are at an impasse. The Commons cannot agree on the way ahead. Clearly to leave with no deal is not in the country's best interests which is why I have negotiated the very best deal we can get. We now need a mandate that every MP in this country will have to back. We acted on the referendum vote by enacting Article 50. We have spent the past 2 years getting to the position of this deal. Clearly it is not enough for some and too much for others. We now need to know the will of the people. On … we will have a second referendum on which the question will be clear. Do you want to leave the EU on the best deal we can get - my deal or would you rather we withdrew Article 50 and remained. On 23 June 2016 we had a clear indication that the public mood was to exit the EU. We now have the detail on what leaving will look like. We now need a clear indication of whether this what the people are asking. …"

If she is that fearful of Johnson and co (and cares that little about our future security) she could always adjust the wording and allow for the no deal option.

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:07 - Jan 20 with 704 viewsjjblue84

Shameful ignoring of the referendum...cities will burn if they dare!!
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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:09 - Jan 20 with 699 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:07 - Jan 20 by jjblue84

Shameful ignoring of the referendum...cities will burn if they dare!!


Handing back control was so dangerous.

Which 2/3 of the democratically elected MPs should we ignore?

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:10 - Jan 20 with 698 viewsChampionship

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:07 - Jan 20 by jjblue84

Shameful ignoring of the referendum...cities will burn if they dare!!


I doubt you could actually find a city, let alone burn it down.
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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:11 - Jan 20 with 694 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:10 - Jan 20 by Championship

I doubt you could actually find a city, let alone burn it down.


To be fair, Norwich voted remain so, if we finally got to remain, the firework celebrations could possibly do so.

and is it just me or does this repeated thin-veiled threat sound very like a threat of terrorism against democracy?
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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:17 - Jan 20 with 680 viewswkj

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:11 - Jan 20 by Nthsuffolkblue

To be fair, Norwich voted remain so, if we finally got to remain, the firework celebrations could possibly do so.

and is it just me or does this repeated thin-veiled threat sound very like a threat of terrorism against democracy?
[Post edited 20 Jan 0:13]


It does come across a bit like a terrorist threat doesn't it

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:19 - Jan 20 with 678 viewsSpruceMoose

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:07 - Jan 20 by jjblue84

Shameful ignoring of the referendum...cities will burn if they dare!!


The adults are talking here, if you don't mind Junior.
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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:21 - Jan 20 with 667 viewsSpruceMoose

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:00 - Jan 20 by Clapham_Junction

So it wasn't you that used the term "remoaners" earlier in this thread? Because it looked quite a lot like it was.

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum by grimboy 19 Jan 21:00
We already had a referendum why do we want another? So if the leave voters win again shall we have another till we get the result the old remoaners want?



Trying to make them understand their own hypocrisy is like banging your head against a brick wall mate.
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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:22 - Jan 20 with 663 viewswkj

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:19 - Jan 20 by SpruceMoose

The adults are talking here, if you don't mind Junior.
[Post edited 20 Jan 0:19]


To be fair he has had a hard day in the chat room of celebrating Blackburn's penalty before it went in, as well as getting in a spat with Ipswich Crazy. Someone must have put some toot in his trill today.

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:23 - Jan 20 with 661 viewsjjblue84

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:09 - Jan 20 by Nthsuffolkblue

Handing back control was so dangerous.

Which 2/3 of the democratically elected MPs should we ignore?


Handing back control! What no-thiпkiпg peabraiпs fall for this spin??
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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:24 - Jan 20 with 654 viewsSpruceMoose

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:22 - Jan 20 by wkj

To be fair he has had a hard day in the chat room of celebrating Blackburn's penalty before it went in, as well as getting in a spat with Ipswich Crazy. Someone must have put some toot in his trill today.


He's obviously a Budgie troll. His days here are numbered I'd imagine.

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:26 - Jan 20 with 646 viewsSpruceMoose

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:23 - Jan 20 by jjblue84

Handing back control! What no-thiпkiпg peabraiпs fall for this spin??


Why don't you try engaging and making an intelligent point for once? All you do is snipe and post contrary 'witicisms'. Are you actually capable anything more?

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:27 - Jan 20 with 641 viewsjjblue84

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:26 - Jan 20 by SpruceMoose

Why don't you try engaging and making an intelligent point for once? All you do is snipe and post contrary 'witicisms'. Are you actually capable anything more?


Haha, ironic post of the year from the clown of the forum!!
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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:29 - Jan 20 with 632 viewswkj

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:27 - Jan 20 by jjblue84

Haha, ironic post of the year from the clown of the forum!!


Well he is quite entertaining
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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:36 - Jan 20 with 612 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:23 - Jan 20 by jjblue84

Handing back control! What no-thiпkiпg peabraiпs fall for this spin??


So you didn't want our parliament to have control?

What path do you think we should take?

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:37 - Jan 20 with 607 viewswkj

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:36 - Jan 20 by Nthsuffolkblue

So you didn't want our parliament to have control?

What path do you think we should take?


This is the thing, he's never really said, just shot down everything for the sake of it, quite a conflicted chap in that regard.

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:37 - Jan 20 with 606 viewspointofblue

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:04 - Jan 20 by Nthsuffolkblue

In fact here is how May should do it:

"We are at an impasse. The Commons cannot agree on the way ahead. Clearly to leave with no deal is not in the country's best interests which is why I have negotiated the very best deal we can get. We now need a mandate that every MP in this country will have to back. We acted on the referendum vote by enacting Article 50. We have spent the past 2 years getting to the position of this deal. Clearly it is not enough for some and too much for others. We now need to know the will of the people. On … we will have a second referendum on which the question will be clear. Do you want to leave the EU on the best deal we can get - my deal or would you rather we withdrew Article 50 and remained. On 23 June 2016 we had a clear indication that the public mood was to exit the EU. We now have the detail on what leaving will look like. We now need a clear indication of whether this what the people are asking. …"

If she is that fearful of Johnson and co (and cares that little about our future security) she could always adjust the wording and allow for the no deal option.


As much as I wouldn’t want the vote to go that way, if you’re handing the Brexit conundrum back to the public then No Deal has to be an option on the vote. One argument behind a second referendum is those who voted for Brexit didn’t know what they were voting for - what if they want to leave but don’t agree with the Prime Minister’s deal, or have confidence that No Deal will not be as bad as some are saying?

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:37 - Jan 20 with 604 viewsSpruceMoose

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 21:56 - Jan 19 by SpruceMoose

Why do you bang on about it so much then? It obviously bothers you. I'd like to get if sorted out as it is getting tedious having you appear every day just to take a pop. Maybe we could move past it at some point please?

I actually owe you an apology. It was pickles not you, I mixed you two up, sorry. I've edited the original post.
[Post edited 19 Jan 21:59]


Apology withdrawn. It was you! You were the Bus-gate perpetrator!

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:38 - Jan 20 with 598 viewswkj

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:37 - Jan 20 by SpruceMoose

Apology withdrawn. It was you! You were the Bus-gate perpetrator!


Now you owe pickles an apology... dark times pal

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:40 - Jan 20 with 594 viewsSpruceMoose

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:27 - Jan 20 by jjblue84

Haha, ironic post of the year from the clown of the forum!!


I'll take that as a no then.

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:40 - Jan 20 with 589 viewsChampionship

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:22 - Jan 20 by wkj

To be fair he has had a hard day in the chat room of celebrating Blackburn's penalty before it went in, as well as getting in a spat with Ipswich Crazy. Someone must have put some toot in his trill today.


Did Crazy give him a red card?
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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:40 - Jan 20 with 589 viewsSpruceMoose

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:38 - Jan 20 by wkj

Now you owe pickles an apology... dark times pal


They all seem like the same semi-literate poster to me!
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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:41 - Jan 20 with 585 viewswkj

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:40 - Jan 20 by Championship

Did Crazy give him a red card?


Mate, Crazy couldn't stop firing out the reds, he was waving thse thing round like a glowstick.

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Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:42 - Jan 20 with 580 viewsjjblue84

Ministers considering a 2nd referendum on 00:36 - Jan 20 by Nthsuffolkblue

So you didn't want our parliament to have control?

What path do you think we should take?


An elected pro-Brexit government is the only way!
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