| The miracle of Bournemouth on 18:59 - Jan 21 with 2887 views | Plums |
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There’s no miracle about Bournemouth that a Range Rover full of Russian money wouldn’t produce. They are the epitome of modern football. A club living well beyond its means. |  |
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| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:14 - Jan 21 with 2832 views | sparks |
| The miracle of Bournemouth on 18:59 - Jan 21 by Plums |
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There’s no miracle about Bournemouth that a Range Rover full of Russian money wouldn’t produce. They are the epitome of modern football. A club living well beyond its means. |
They are not living beyond their means because (1) their means include the funding from owners; and (2) they now have had the premiership millions for a prolonged period, which makes up the bulk of their funds (as with other clubs at a similar level). |  |
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| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:19 - Jan 21 with 2810 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:14 - Jan 21 by sparks |
They are not living beyond their means because (1) their means include the funding from owners; and (2) they now have had the premiership millions for a prolonged period, which makes up the bulk of their funds (as with other clubs at a similar level). |
Yeah, but apart from that...
And Fraser diving cheat, booo. Oh he played for us though, ah ok not so bad. Or something. |  |
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| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:26 - Jan 21 with 2769 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:14 - Jan 21 by sparks |
They are not living beyond their means because (1) their means include the funding from owners; and (2) they now have had the premiership millions for a prolonged period, which makes up the bulk of their funds (as with other clubs at a similar level). |
B*llocks. If they got relegated, there is no way their wage bill would be sustainable
EDIT: to point out that clearly what Bully posted is strictly correct, but we all know that relying on Premier League money is a fools errand [Post edited 21 Jan 2019 19:31]
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| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:30 - Jan 21 with 2760 views | Plums |
| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:14 - Jan 21 by sparks |
They are not living beyond their means because (1) their means include the funding from owners; and (2) they now have had the premiership millions for a prolonged period, which makes up the bulk of their funds (as with other clubs at a similar level). |
12k capacity - they’re Burton Albion in velvet drawers. | |
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| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:35 - Jan 21 with 2721 views | sparks |
| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:30 - Jan 21 by Plums |
12k capacity - they’re Burton Albion in velvet drawers. |
In the modern premiership, gate receipts are a very modest percentage of a clubs income. | |
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| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:36 - Jan 21 with 2722 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:26 - Jan 21 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
B*llocks. If they got relegated, there is no way their wage bill would be sustainable
EDIT: to point out that clearly what Bully posted is strictly correct, but we all know that relying on Premier League money is a fools errand [Post edited 21 Jan 2019 19:31]
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That applies to any club. Our wage bill won’t be sustainable next year, for example.
They are living within their means if they’re not taking on external debt (no idea if they are or aren’t). | |
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| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 19:40 - Jan 21 with 2700 views | Darth_Koont |
There's a lot to admire about Howe and what a lot of the players have achieved even making the grade from League One before getting into the Prem.
But this has been bankrolled way beyond what a small club can achieve and was what FFP was meant to rule out.
Of course, I'm jealous. But I also remember being "jealous" that back in the day when we got relegated from the Prem along with Leicester, they folded completely and just started up as a new company with all their player assets intact. While we tried to trade our way out of it by selling off our players before ultimately going into administration and stiffing creditors anyway. By then we were pretty threadbare and it helped set the tone for the next 15 years. Derby did something similar to Leicester too IIRC but the details are hazy. |  |
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| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:42 - Jan 21 with 2689 views | sparks |
| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:36 - Jan 21 by Swansea_Blue |
That applies to any club. Our wage bill won’t be sustainable next year, for example.
They are living within their means if they’re not taking on external debt (no idea if they are or aren’t). |
They have £100m a year plus coming in from tv. They have a welathy benefactor. | |
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| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 19:59 - Jan 21 with 2639 views | RegencyBlue |
Correct me if I’m wrong but did not some Russian invest mega bucks into Bournemouth?
Not so much miraculous as cold hard cash! [Post edited 21 Jan 2019 20:02]
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| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 20:02 - Jan 21 with 2628 views | sparks |
| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 19:59 - Jan 21 by RegencyBlue |
Correct me if I’m wrong but did not some Russian invest mega bucks into Bournemouth?
Not so much miraculous as cold hard cash! [Post edited 21 Jan 2019 20:02]
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Indeed. Thats been part of their "means". | |
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| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 20:16 - Jan 21 with 2585 views | Ftnfwest |
And they’d never consider breaking FFP to do it of course |  | | |
| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 20:17 - Jan 21 with 2579 views | sparks |
| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 20:16 - Jan 21 by Ftnfwest |
And they’d never consider breaking FFP to do it of course |
They clearly did. Not massively. But they took that gamble. | |
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| The miracle of Bournemouth on 20:27 - Jan 21 with 2550 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:36 - Jan 21 by Swansea_Blue |
That applies to any club. Our wage bill won’t be sustainable next year, for example.
They are living within their means if they’re not taking on external debt (no idea if they are or aren’t). |
To a degree yes, but Bournemouth simply don’t have any real income outside of PL money or their owner | |
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| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 20:35 - Jan 21 with 2525 views | WD19 |
| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 20:17 - Jan 21 by sparks |
They clearly did. Not massively. But they took that gamble. |
It’s a gamble in the same way Ben Johnson taking steroids was a gamble.
Others would just call it cheating. |  | | |
| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 20:43 - Jan 21 with 2505 views | sparks |
| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 20:35 - Jan 21 by WD19 |
It’s a gamble in the same way Ben Johnson taking steroids was a gamble.
Others would just call it cheating. |
Like Wolves and many others before them. Spend the money, if it works you go up and all is well. Theirs wasnt particualrly massive in the scheme of things. Arguably less than the value of our insolvency... | |
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| The miracle of Bournemouth on 20:49 - Jan 21 with 2480 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The miracle of Bournemouth on 19:42 - Jan 21 by sparks |
They have £100m a year plus coming in from tv. They have a welathy benefactor. |
Quite. You're spot on with this. It's sustainable for them as long as the PL revenue is there and the owner is happy to cover any shortfall | |
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| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 21:00 - Jan 21 with 2451 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The ‘miracle’ of Bournemouth on 20:35 - Jan 21 by WD19 |
It’s a gamble in the same way Ben Johnson taking steroids was a gamble.
Others would just call it cheating. |
Yep, that's true too. 2 issues in this thread being conflated:
- they breached FFP considerably to go up (allowed a £6m deviation per season, they posted £10m and £38m losses in successive seasons).
- now they are living within their means | |
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