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Are there some problems in Venezuela? 20:52 - Jan 23 with 22682 viewsBloomBlue

A lot of protesting going on and Trump has said today he recognises Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido as interim president?
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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 20:57 - Jan 23 with 6180 viewsjjblue84

Socialism live!

First the promises, then the corruption, then the inflation, then the murders. Never forget!!
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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 20:57 - Jan 23 with 6182 viewsGuthrum

There was a little bit of a failed coup attempt last night.

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 21:00 - Jan 23 with 6175 viewsBluesquid

Trump's Secretary Of State who actually believes in The Rapture, suggested when he was head of the CIA in 2017 that the agency is working to change the elected government of Venezuela.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cia-venezuela-crisis-governmen
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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 21:04 - Jan 23 with 6155 viewspickles110564

Is that not the country Corbyn wanted to base ours on?
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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 21:13 - Jan 23 with 6134 viewsBloomBlue

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 20:57 - Jan 23 by jjblue84

Socialism live!

First the promises, then the corruption, then the inflation, then the murders. Never forget!!


They just said on the radio the inflation rate runs at 100,000 percent, that's one hell of an inflation, I would riot against that inflation
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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 10:44 - Jan 24 with 5968 viewsLeaky

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 21:13 - Jan 23 by BloomBlue

They just said on the radio the inflation rate runs at 100,000 percent, that's one hell of an inflation, I would riot against that inflation


welcome to the socialist dream
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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:13 - Jan 24 with 5938 viewsSpruceMoose

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:15 - Jan 24 with 5935 viewschicoazul

Oil.

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:20 - Jan 24 with 5932 viewsStokieBlue

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:15 - Jan 24 by chicoazul

Oil.


This is a bit of an old stereotype now isn't it? The US is the largest oil producer in the world, they don't need oil from Venezuela. Venezuela is actually 11th and produces less than 20% of what the US produces:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production

As for Venezuela itself, it's been horribly mismanaged for over 10 years, it's a tragedy. The Russians offering support to a failed government which just won highly dubious elections should rank higher on the naughty things than Trump endorsing the opposition leader.

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:21 - Jan 24 with 5926 viewsIpswichKnight

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:20 - Jan 24 by StokieBlue

This is a bit of an old stereotype now isn't it? The US is the largest oil producer in the world, they don't need oil from Venezuela. Venezuela is actually 11th and produces less than 20% of what the US produces:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production

As for Venezuela itself, it's been horribly mismanaged for over 10 years, it's a tragedy. The Russians offering support to a failed government which just won highly dubious elections should rank higher on the naughty things than Trump endorsing the opposition leader.

SB


Should also add that the rest of South America is recognising the opposition leader and none of them are exactly fans of the Trump administration.
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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:22 - Jan 24 with 5922 viewsSteve_M

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:15 - Jan 24 by chicoazul

Oil.


The US is now exporting oil. Venezuelan crude tends to be heavy anyway, meaning it's not the easiest to refine.

People do need to look beyond lazy stereotypical reactions and at the utter mess Maduro has made of running the country, the voter suppression and subversion of the constitution since the oil price dropped rather than the statements of Trump and Pence.

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:23 - Jan 24 with 5922 viewsStokieBlue

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:22 - Jan 24 by Steve_M

The US is now exporting oil. Venezuelan crude tends to be heavy anyway, meaning it's not the easiest to refine.

People do need to look beyond lazy stereotypical reactions and at the utter mess Maduro has made of running the country, the voter suppression and subversion of the constitution since the oil price dropped rather than the statements of Trump and Pence.


Spot on.

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:48 - Jan 24 with 5904 viewsCoachRob

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:20 - Jan 24 by StokieBlue

This is a bit of an old stereotype now isn't it? The US is the largest oil producer in the world, they don't need oil from Venezuela. Venezuela is actually 11th and produces less than 20% of what the US produces:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production

As for Venezuela itself, it's been horribly mismanaged for over 10 years, it's a tragedy. The Russians offering support to a failed government which just won highly dubious elections should rank higher on the naughty things than Trump endorsing the opposition leader.

SB


Jair Bolsonaro has given his support for this "coup" which should send a shudder down the spines of anybody who objects to the views of the far right. There is an axis of hard (far) right consensus forming Trump-Bolsonaro-Pinera which won't be good for the working person or the planet.

One thing which I don't understand is how Sky are supporting Ocean Rescue campaign but banging on about Venezuela and its oil reserves. Economists on the right seem fixated on oil refineries and plastic production.

How does Venezuela recover its economy?
https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/ven/
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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:52 - Jan 24 with 5894 viewschicoazul

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:20 - Jan 24 by StokieBlue

This is a bit of an old stereotype now isn't it? The US is the largest oil producer in the world, they don't need oil from Venezuela. Venezuela is actually 11th and produces less than 20% of what the US produces:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production

As for Venezuela itself, it's been horribly mismanaged for over 10 years, it's a tragedy. The Russians offering support to a failed government which just won highly dubious elections should rank higher on the naughty things than Trump endorsing the opposition leader.

SB


You're acting like the US hasnt historically meddled in South America for much much less than access to one of the largest oil fields in the world on their doorstep. But you're right of course, the Russians even flew some bombers there recently too.

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:54 - Jan 24 with 5889 viewsfooters

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:52 - Jan 24 by chicoazul

You're acting like the US hasnt historically meddled in South America for much much less than access to one of the largest oil fields in the world on their doorstep. But you're right of course, the Russians even flew some bombers there recently too.


Hundreds of examples of US 'intervention' in Latin America. Can't have those pesky co-operative farms popping up when the man from Del Monte has cans to fill. They're ideological attacks as much as they are commercial.

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:54 - Jan 24 with 5892 viewsStokieBlue

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:48 - Jan 24 by CoachRob

Jair Bolsonaro has given his support for this "coup" which should send a shudder down the spines of anybody who objects to the views of the far right. There is an axis of hard (far) right consensus forming Trump-Bolsonaro-Pinera which won't be good for the working person or the planet.

One thing which I don't understand is how Sky are supporting Ocean Rescue campaign but banging on about Venezuela and its oil reserves. Economists on the right seem fixated on oil refineries and plastic production.

How does Venezuela recover its economy?
https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/ven/


Getting Bolsonaro’s approval is not ideal but it doesn’t detract from other countries in the area backing the opposition. Coup is technically correct but a strong term given the elections were clearly nonsense. You don’t think the US position is correct in this instance?

I don’t know enough about the internal economy to say how they can recover. They do need to maximise their oil income and invest wisely with the proceeds, something they haven’t done in more than a decade. You surely acknowledge the mismanagement of the past two socialist governments has created the mess they are in at the moment?

My friends, friend mother lives in Venezuela and she hasn’t been able to get the medicine she needs for a while. They managed to get some to her from abroad but there is no supply within the country. It’s a total mess and to carry on with the current government on the basis of a highly dubious election isn’t going to work for Venezuela.

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:56 - Jan 24 with 5882 viewsStokieBlue

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:52 - Jan 24 by chicoazul

You're acting like the US hasnt historically meddled in South America for much much less than access to one of the largest oil fields in the world on their doorstep. But you're right of course, the Russians even flew some bombers there recently too.


I don't think citing obvious historical errors in order to take a stance on an existing and hugely significant issue is the way forward though.

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 12:02 - Jan 24 with 5864 viewsnoggin

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 21:04 - Jan 23 by pickles110564

Is that not the country Corbyn wanted to base ours on?


No, that'll be Norway.

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 12:02 - Jan 24 by noggin

No, that'll be Norway.


Sod it, think I'll head out there with you buh. When's the annual Moomin hunt start?

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 12:05 - Jan 24 with 5850 viewsnoggin

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 12:04 - Jan 24 by footers

Sod it, think I'll head out there with you buh. When's the annual Moomin hunt start?


You had better do it quickly. Brexit will take away your rights to move here.

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 12:06 - Jan 24 with 5841 viewsfooters

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 12:05 - Jan 24 by noggin

You had better do it quickly. Brexit will take away your rights to move here.


Not for plastic Paddies

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 12:09 - Jan 24 with 5829 viewsnoggin

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 12:06 - Jan 24 by footers

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Aha! My application for a paddy passport is filled out and ready, in the event brexit actually happens. Born in the north so automatically entitled.

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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 13:12 - Jan 24 with 5749 viewsBluesquid

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 11:20 - Jan 24 by StokieBlue

This is a bit of an old stereotype now isn't it? The US is the largest oil producer in the world, they don't need oil from Venezuela. Venezuela is actually 11th and produces less than 20% of what the US produces:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production

As for Venezuela itself, it's been horribly mismanaged for over 10 years, it's a tragedy. The Russians offering support to a failed government which just won highly dubious elections should rank higher on the naughty things than Trump endorsing the opposition leader.

SB


I see Russia has attacked the US and Canadas support for the Venezuelan opposition and as you mentioned Russia actually supports Maduro.

According to much of the mainstream media and Hilary Clinton, Putin is the puppet master and pulling Trumps strings.

How wrong they were it seems.
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Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 13:18 - Jan 24 with 5739 viewsStokieBlue

Are there some problems in Venezuela? on 13:12 - Jan 24 by Bluesquid

I see Russia has attacked the US and Canadas support for the Venezuelan opposition and as you mentioned Russia actually supports Maduro.

According to much of the mainstream media and Hilary Clinton, Putin is the puppet master and pulling Trumps strings.

How wrong they were it seems.


I’m sorry but I don’t see what point you are trying to make? Can you be clearer?

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