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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession 18:59 - Feb 25 with 3500 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

What is soooo great about this single market we are about to leave again?
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:00 - Feb 25 with 2239 viewsBluefish

Trading is pretty important for an island our size. Investment and jobs are also quite important and linked to trade.

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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:01 - Feb 25 with 2258 viewsChampionship

What do either of those have to do with the single market?
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:07 - Feb 25 with 2209 viewsGuthrum

It's a global thing. China is slowing down as well and they're not in the single market.

Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:07 - Feb 25 with 2207 viewsGlasgowBlue

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:01 - Feb 25 by Championship

What do either of those have to do with the single market?


They dint have the ability to set their own interest rates or engage in quantitative easing. Both useful tools that are used when a country is either in or facing a recession.

Both Italy and Germany are fully signed up to the single currency.

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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:08 - Feb 25 with 2200 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:01 - Feb 25 by Championship

What do either of those have to do with the single market?


How can this happen in this wonderful free trade utopia? All this Brexit scaremongering but the real news is inside the Euro zone.
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:09 - Feb 25 with 2192 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:07 - Feb 25 by GlasgowBlue

They dint have the ability to set their own interest rates or engage in quantitative easing. Both useful tools that are used when a country is either in or facing a recession.

Both Italy and Germany are fully signed up to the single currency.


Exactly
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:09 - Feb 25 with 2190 viewsfooters

Germany isn't on the brink of a recession.It's an outlier result in Q4 2018 due to the China-US tariff war, its exports accounting for 40% of GDP and its automotive sector having to deal with the 2015 emissions scandal.

And Italy, yeah it's Italy...

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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:10 - Feb 25 with 2170 viewsBluefish

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:07 - Feb 25 by GlasgowBlue

They dint have the ability to set their own interest rates or engage in quantitative easing. Both useful tools that are used when a country is either in or facing a recession.

Both Italy and Germany are fully signed up to the single currency.


But not really connected to the point the OP was badly trying to make.

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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:10 - Feb 25 with 2180 viewsChampionship

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:07 - Feb 25 by GlasgowBlue

They dint have the ability to set their own interest rates or engage in quantitative easing. Both useful tools that are used when a country is either in or facing a recession.

Both Italy and Germany are fully signed up to the single currency.


Good point. Not sure QE did anything but inflate asset prices though.

Blimey, just googled it and the ECB have a negative interest rate!
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:13 - Feb 25 with 2161 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:09 - Feb 25 by footers

Germany isn't on the brink of a recession.It's an outlier result in Q4 2018 due to the China-US tariff war, its exports accounting for 40% of GDP and its automotive sector having to deal with the 2015 emissions scandal.

And Italy, yeah it's Italy...


Not according to the figures that have been released.

Also yeah, it's only Italy, Greece, Spain, Ireland pick your poison eh....
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:14 - Feb 25 with 2148 viewsGlasgowBlue

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:09 - Feb 25 by footers

Germany isn't on the brink of a recession.It's an outlier result in Q4 2018 due to the China-US tariff war, its exports accounting for 40% of GDP and its automotive sector having to deal with the 2015 emissions scandal.

And Italy, yeah it's Italy...


-0.2% Q3.
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:18 - Feb 25 with 2110 viewsfooters

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:13 - Feb 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Not according to the figures that have been released.

Also yeah, it's only Italy, Greece, Spain, Ireland pick your poison eh....


OK, so I'm wrong about Germany?

Italy, Spain and Greece have been basketcases for years, not sure what any of that proves? If you think I approved of the EU's treatment of Spain or Italy you're barking up the wrong bush, btw.

It's just that collectively the EU is still the world's most affluent trading bloc. If you have a bone to pick about these subjects you might want to look at the massive amounts of deregulation and financial practices which have allowed a global recession to have spread so rapidly and severely. See you at the barricades, comrade!

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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:19 - Feb 25 with 2108 viewsChampionship

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:09 - Feb 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Exactly


Ha, he bailed you right out there didn't he?
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:19 - Feb 25 with 2104 viewsZedRodgers

Never hear much about how well those loony left Portuguese socialists are doing.

Funny that.

No, not at the moment

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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:21 - Feb 25 with 2088 viewschicoazul

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:09 - Feb 25 by footers

Germany isn't on the brink of a recession.It's an outlier result in Q4 2018 due to the China-US tariff war, its exports accounting for 40% of GDP and its automotive sector having to deal with the 2015 emissions scandal.

And Italy, yeah it's Italy...


I love Italy. Once this is all over and these funny little European countries are all bankrupt and the buccaneering UK is dominant once more, can we buy it?

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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:22 - Feb 25 with 2085 viewsfactual_blue

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:08 - Feb 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

How can this happen in this wonderful free trade utopia? All this Brexit scaremongering but the real news is inside the Euro zone.


Economic opinion is tending towards a worldwide recession. If anything, free trade areas/single markets will tend to mitigate the impacts.

Doesn't bode well for trumpy-wumpy's increasing isolationism.

I hope you don't live in the States.....

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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:22 - Feb 25 with 2065 viewsBluefish

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:22 - Feb 25 by factual_blue

Economic opinion is tending towards a worldwide recession. If anything, free trade areas/single markets will tend to mitigate the impacts.

Doesn't bode well for trumpy-wumpy's increasing isolationism.

I hope you don't live in the States.....


He would have mentioned it I'd have thought
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:24 - Feb 25 with 2062 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:19 - Feb 25 by Championship

Ha, he bailed you right out there didn't he?


Well I did not you can't set your own interest rates in a single market if that was your question.
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:24 - Feb 25 with 2057 viewsfactual_blue

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:19 - Feb 25 by ZedRodgers

Never hear much about how well those loony left Portuguese socialists are doing.

Funny that.


Some friends of ours are having dreadful trouble with the guys in the UK doing their kitchen. Always late, poor workmanship etc.

'We don't these problems in Portugal [where they have a holiday home]. Workmen turn up on time, and know what they're doing.'

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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:26 - Feb 25 with 2036 viewsfooters

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:21 - Feb 25 by chicoazul

I love Italy. Once this is all over and these funny little European countries are all bankrupt and the buccaneering UK is dominant once more, can we buy it?


If you slip them some dough the Italians are generally happy for you to do as you please (but not 'that', don't ever ask them for 'that').

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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:28 - Feb 25 with 2027 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:18 - Feb 25 by footers

OK, so I'm wrong about Germany?

Italy, Spain and Greece have been basketcases for years, not sure what any of that proves? If you think I approved of the EU's treatment of Spain or Italy you're barking up the wrong bush, btw.

It's just that collectively the EU is still the world's most affluent trading bloc. If you have a bone to pick about these subjects you might want to look at the massive amounts of deregulation and financial practices which have allowed a global recession to have spread so rapidly and severely. See you at the barricades, comrade!


"It's just that collectively the EU is still the world's most affluent trading bloc"

It's protectionist , failed and some of its major players are in recession but as you were!
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:28 - Feb 25 with 2019 viewsfooters

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:28 - Feb 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

"It's just that collectively the EU is still the world's most affluent trading bloc"

It's protectionist , failed and some of its major players are in recession but as you were!


Damn, being schooled so hard really hurt. I need a lie down.

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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:29 - Feb 25 with 2017 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:22 - Feb 25 by factual_blue

Economic opinion is tending towards a worldwide recession. If anything, free trade areas/single markets will tend to mitigate the impacts.

Doesn't bode well for trumpy-wumpy's increasing isolationism.

I hope you don't live in the States.....


I'm sure I'll survive, thanks for your concern though :)
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:30 - Feb 25 with 2013 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:28 - Feb 25 by footers

Damn, being schooled so hard really hurt. I need a lie down.


Good counter.
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So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:32 - Feb 25 with 1997 viewsEwan_Oozami

So Italy is about to default and Germany is on the brink of recession on 19:08 - Feb 25 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

How can this happen in this wonderful free trade utopia? All this Brexit scaremongering but the real news is inside the Euro zone.


We are not in the Eurozone, we would never join the Eurozone, even if we were stayng in the EU, it was one of our opt-outs - you can be part of the single market and get all the advantages of it without being in the eurozone - it was called having your cake and eating it.
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