| No MV3 15:39 - Mar 18 with 28194 views | ZedRodgers |
Bercow says no.
He's making a statement now in his typical long-winded fashion. Government benches didn't seem to know he was going to do this and are in disbelief.
Remarkable stuff.
EDIT: Essentially he's said he won't allow them to bring back the same deal back for another vote. Something would need to change.
Meaningful Edit 2: Bercow clarifies to JRM that it could be brought back in a new parliamentary session. Make of that what you will. [Post edited 18 Mar 2019 15:52]
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| No MV3 on 21:32 - Mar 18 with 1380 views | pickles110564 |
| No MV3 on 21:23 - Mar 18 by m14_blue |
When you say ‘we’, you mean ‘I’ |
Sorry how does 17 million mean I? |  | | |
| No MV3 on 21:32 - Mar 18 with 1376 views | footers |
| No MV3 on 21:30 - Mar 18 by pickles110564 |
Zed, how about you take your own advice? |
QED |  |
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| No MV3 on 21:33 - Mar 18 with 1375 views | XYZ |
| No MV3 on 20:56 - Mar 18 by sparks |
There are clearly comparisons- but parliament has already had two goes. The tension here is more about the argument for refusing a second referndum being very difficult having pursued multiple votes in parliament... |
Clearly? Really?
One's a parliamentary convention applicable to the HoC - the "club" 's rule book.
The other's a public vote with the rules set out in a specific Act of Parliament.
Two sets of rules for two completely different constituencies and different circumstances. The only tenuous comparison is that they're both related to "rules".
There is a parliamentary convention about voting on the same issue in the same session twice.
There's nothing to stop Parliament legislating for a second referendum/ peoples vote. Not a "motion of the House" - an Act of Parliament.
There's nothing to stop the HoC voting to allow itself an exemption to Erskine May, although Parliament hasn't seen fit to do that since 1604 so it may be looked on a little strangely.
The politics and PR around the issue are a different matter. Misstating the legal possibilities, as some Leavers (e.g. Esther McVey) are doing, is simply lying in order to mislead. |  | | |
| No MV3 on 21:33 - Mar 18 with 1375 views | BloomBlue |
| No MV3 on 21:29 - Mar 18 by footers |
"I didn't vote for this!"
The sooner our sovereign parliament can stop this ridiculous charade the better. Why are we beholden to a bunch of crackpots? |
Our sovereign parliament voted to implement a50 because that was what the people of this country voted for. The sooner we leave with no deal and prove all the doom and gloom lies of the remainers wrong the better. |  | | |
| No MV3 on 21:35 - Mar 18 with 1370 views | m14_blue |
| No MV3 on 21:32 - Mar 18 by pickles110564 |
Sorry how does 17 million mean I? |
you know what, it’s not often I say this but I don’t think I’m going to bother any more. There really is no point.
I can only think (or at least hope for your sake) that you’re deliberately missing the point. If you genuinely believe all this rubbish then I feel for you. | | | |
| No MV3 on 21:36 - Mar 18 with 1368 views | Herbivore |
| No MV3 on 21:32 - Mar 18 by pickles110564 |
Sorry how does 17 million mean I? |
*Slaps forehead* |  |
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| No MV3 on 21:36 - Mar 18 with 1368 views | footers |
| No MV3 on 21:33 - Mar 18 by BloomBlue |
Our sovereign parliament voted to implement a50 because that was what the people of this country voted for. The sooner we leave with no deal and prove all the doom and gloom lies of the remainers wrong the better. |
And our sovereign parliament is about to agree an extension which will likely be extended again and again as no actual deal is possible to be agreed since any proposal is worse than remaining!
BCWYWF!
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| No MV3 on 21:38 - Mar 18 with 1363 views | pickles110564 |
| No MV3 on 21:35 - Mar 18 by m14_blue |
you know what, it’s not often I say this but I don’t think I’m going to bother any more. There really is no point.
I can only think (or at least hope for your sake) that you’re deliberately missing the point. If you genuinely believe all this rubbish then I feel for you. |
And i feel sorry for you that you think the EU is so wonderful and perfect, it clearly is not. | | | |
| No MV3 on 21:39 - Mar 18 with 1358 views | XYZ |
| No MV3 on 21:24 - Mar 18 by pickles110564 |
Nope that was not on the ballot paper, we voted to leave end of. |
"Leave end of" wasn't on the ballot paper.
"I'd like Parliament to know I'd like us to Leave the EU" - v - "I'd like Parliament to know I'd like us to Remain in the EU" was the choice you were given.
Ignorance of the law doesn't mean the result is what you might have thought you were voting on rather than what you were voting on.
Read more widely end of. | | | |
| No MV3 on 21:41 - Mar 18 with 1351 views | footers |
| No MV3 on 21:38 - Mar 18 by pickles110564 |
And i feel sorry for you that you think the EU is so wonderful and perfect, it clearly is not. |
So remaining in it while pushing for change is your preferred option? Should've said!
Your mistake (well, one of them anyway) is believing anyone who voted remain believes the EU to be perfect. We know that's not true. But if simplistic, black-and-white argumentation is your thing, then... I can see why you voted to leave ;) | |
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| No MV3 on 21:41 - Mar 18 with 1349 views | m14_blue |
| No MV3 on 21:38 - Mar 18 by pickles110564 |
And i feel sorry for you that you think the EU is so wonderful and perfect, it clearly is not. |
We agree on something then, you’re right, it’s far from perfect.
Anyway, I’m out. For now at least. | | | |
| No MV3 on 21:44 - Mar 18 with 1344 views | BloomBlue |
| No MV3 on 21:36 - Mar 18 by footers |
And our sovereign parliament is about to agree an extension which will likely be extended again and again as no actual deal is possible to be agreed since any proposal is worse than remaining!
BCWYWF!
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That will never happen, you're living in a dream world if you believe that | | | |
| No MV3 on 21:46 - Mar 18 with 1336 views | footers |
| No MV3 on 21:44 - Mar 18 by BloomBlue |
That will never happen, you're living in a dream world if you believe that |
And so are you if you honestly believe we'd be better off outside of the world's most affluent trading bloc. But wotevs. Your feelings matter more than any observable facts, innit!
That negotiated trade deal with the Faroe Islands ought to be a lucrative one :)
Enjoy your burgundy passport. | |
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| No MV3 on 21:51 - Mar 18 with 1329 views | BloomBlue |
| No MV3 on 21:46 - Mar 18 by footers |
And so are you if you honestly believe we'd be better off outside of the world's most affluent trading bloc. But wotevs. Your feelings matter more than any observable facts, innit!
That negotiated trade deal with the Faroe Islands ought to be a lucrative one :)
Enjoy your burgundy passport. |
We'll be fine with countries like US, China, India etc. | | | |
| No MV3 on 21:53 - Mar 18 with 1323 views | footers |
| No MV3 on 21:51 - Mar 18 by BloomBlue |
We'll be fine with countries like US, China, India etc. |
Yes, doing deals with countries who are mainly self-sufficient and engage in protectionist trade policies will be a bumper deal for the UK...
Jesus Christ. | |
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| No MV3 on 21:56 - Mar 18 with 1312 views | BloomBlue |
| No MV3 on 21:53 - Mar 18 by footers |
Yes, doing deals with countries who are mainly self-sufficient and engage in protectionist trade policies will be a bumper deal for the UK...
Jesus Christ. |
Protectionist trade policies that's what the EU does. That's one of the reasons they cannot get the trade deal they want with the US. | | | |
| No MV3 on 21:57 - Mar 18 with 1311 views | ZedRodgers |
| No MV3 on 21:30 - Mar 18 by pickles110564 |
Zed, how about you take your own advice? |
The difference is that I voted remain but have said multiple times that abruptly ‘cancelling’ Brexit is probably a bad idea. As is patronisingly dismissing the reasons people voted to leave as ‘being thick’.
I’m not saying there aren’t remainers that aren’t staunchly unwillining to see where the other side is coming from, but that is no excuse for you to continue in the way that you are. | |
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| No MV3 on 21:59 - Mar 18 with 1306 views | XYZ |
| No MV3 on 21:51 - Mar 18 by BloomBlue |
We'll be fine with countries like US, China, India etc. |
"We'll be fine with countries like US, China, India etc."
Yeah, they definitely won't be looking to settle any old scores … | | | |
| No MV3 on 22:01 - Mar 18 with 1293 views | footers |
| No MV3 on 21:56 - Mar 18 by BloomBlue |
Protectionist trade policies that's what the EU does. That's one of the reasons they cannot get the trade deal they want with the US. |
The reason they can't get a deal with the US is because... the US has protectionist trade policies! Tell me how Trump's 'America first' position will help the UK? And you're also implying by that post that it would be very difficult to negotiate a trade deal with the EU too, hmmm.
Do you fancy a trade war with them? The US-China one put Germany into a recession for the first time in four years. Now you want the UK to be a potential 'beneficiary' of such actions- hahahahahahahaha.
Yet you seem to believe our manufacturing base to be as good or better than Germany's?
You're economically illiterate. No wonder since you voted Brexit!
I'm out. No reasoning with such idiocy.
P.S. The irony on being schooled in capitalism by a socialist should hurt lol ;) [Post edited 18 Mar 2019 22:04]
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| No MV3 on 22:02 - Mar 18 with 1293 views | jaykay |
| No MV3 on 21:20 - Mar 18 by pickles110564 |
This is not what we voted for Footers, we voted to leave the EU and everything it stands for.
Not a deal agreed by the remainers and the EU.
This is not Parliamentary sovereignty just the rich elite getting one over us yet again. |
i see so the likes of mog, farage, boris, tim the pub landlord, dyson, lawson the frenchie ,fox, etc are not the elite. as one headline says brexit is a project by the elites, for the elites. the rest of us were never meant to benefit from it. |  |
| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| No MV3 on 22:04 - Mar 18 with 1289 views | XYZ |
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| No MV3 on 22:06 - Mar 18 with 1276 views | footers |
| No MV3 on 22:04 - Mar 18 by XYZ |
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It's a day off for some people, I guess... | |
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| No MV3 on 22:13 - Mar 18 with 1255 views | Seablu |
| No MV3 on 21:30 - Mar 18 by pickles110564 |
Zed, how about you take your own advice? |
Pickles, how about you learn proper English and try to integrate with our country before telling anyone else what to do?
You're an embarrassment to your ilk. |  | | |
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