| Racism in football - Ipswich edition 08:08 - Apr 7 with 11332 views | textbackup |
Hand on heart, in 25ish years of following Town I have heard 1 racist remark.
Can anyone say they’ve heard it within our following? |  |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:17 - Apr 7 with 4861 views | noggin |
Not for around 40 years. |  |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:21 - Apr 7 with 4869 views | sparks |
Yes. Aimed at a Sikh linesman,
I don't count the abuse directed at Magilton which was prefaced with "Irish" given that Irish is not a race.
Generally though, I have difficulty with the narrative that is now being created. John Barnes said the other day that he didnt see why we were so up in arms abotu the recent England game, when we dont deal with the issues which exist everyday in English football.
Whilst issues which arise should be dealt with more severely and promptly, I simply don't see this apparent ongoing pervasive issue here. Which makes Rose's comments rather baffling.
I have watcehd football at all levels for 30 odd years. Including the one above (which was along time ago now) I can only think of one other low level racist incident I have witnessed (some moron at a non league game said "Hey its the united nations" as the opposition ran out.) |  |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:31 - Apr 7 with 4821 views | noggin |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:21 - Apr 7 by sparks |
Yes. Aimed at a Sikh linesman,
I don't count the abuse directed at Magilton which was prefaced with "Irish" given that Irish is not a race.
Generally though, I have difficulty with the narrative that is now being created. John Barnes said the other day that he didnt see why we were so up in arms abotu the recent England game, when we dont deal with the issues which exist everyday in English football.
Whilst issues which arise should be dealt with more severely and promptly, I simply don't see this apparent ongoing pervasive issue here. Which makes Rose's comments rather baffling.
I have watcehd football at all levels for 30 odd years. Including the one above (which was along time ago now) I can only think of one other low level racist incident I have witnessed (some moron at a non league game said "Hey its the united nations" as the opposition ran out.) |
On the subject of abuse towards Irish people, I have noted a serious rise in sectarian abuse, aimed at Irish/Scottish catholics, by an element of our support. It might always have been there but I’ve seen quite a lot on social media recently. Never heard it at a game. [Post edited 7 Apr 2019 8:34]
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:33 - Apr 7 with 4822 views | textbackup |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:21 - Apr 7 by sparks |
Yes. Aimed at a Sikh linesman,
I don't count the abuse directed at Magilton which was prefaced with "Irish" given that Irish is not a race.
Generally though, I have difficulty with the narrative that is now being created. John Barnes said the other day that he didnt see why we were so up in arms abotu the recent England game, when we dont deal with the issues which exist everyday in English football.
Whilst issues which arise should be dealt with more severely and promptly, I simply don't see this apparent ongoing pervasive issue here. Which makes Rose's comments rather baffling.
I have watcehd football at all levels for 30 odd years. Including the one above (which was along time ago now) I can only think of one other low level racist incident I have witnessed (some moron at a non league game said "Hey its the united nations" as the opposition ran out.) |
I remember when we (the Belstead arms) played the silver star, all knew it each and it was matey, but they called us a team a milkys.... which was pretty funny on a cold Sunday morning | |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:40 - Apr 7 with 4794 views | SomethingBlue |
Not for years although the old boys behind me in Block M when I was a kid used to mutter some pretty awful stuff about, to name two, Samassi Abou and Finidi George that went far beyond criticism of the players' qualities. |  |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:42 - Apr 7 with 4774 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:31 - Apr 7 by noggin |
On the subject of abuse towards Irish people, I have noted a serious rise in sectarian abuse, aimed at Irish/Scottish catholics, by an element of our support. It might always have been there but I’ve seen quite a lot on social media recently. Never heard it at a game. [Post edited 7 Apr 2019 8:34]
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It doesn't help that sectarian abuse is basically promoted by the Irish and Scottish.
People probably learn the abuse from Old Firm fans. |  |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:45 - Apr 7 with 4755 views | noggin |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:42 - Apr 7 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It doesn't help that sectarian abuse is basically promoted by the Irish and Scottish.
People probably learn the abuse from Old Firm fans. |
It does seem to be the GSTQ and **** the Pope kind of stuff, which seems bizarre from Fans of Ipswich Town. | |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:03 - Apr 7 with 4681 views | BloomBlue |
In the late 70s I can remember the north stand singing as one; trigger, trigger, trigger shoot that n****r. But I dont recall hearing anything for years |  | | |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:05 - Apr 7 with 4657 views | Bluefish |
Sorry hadn't seen this when starting a new thread |  |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:17 - Apr 7 with 4621 views | GunnsAirkick |
Twice.
The worst one I've heard is at Maine Road, some of our fans were singing "I'd rather be a P@ki than a manc".
The only other time was when I heard someone abusing JET, some guy said "put some effort into it blackie!"
Considering how f*cked up football supporters (and people in general) can be, I'd say we're a good bunch overall (based on my experiences).
Wasn't there a chant in the 80's about racial harmony?
On that subject, I love the MOTD FA Cup intro with our black supporters, they can make out we're yokels all they like, I'd say we're more progressive than a lot of clubs. [Post edited 7 Apr 2019 10:46]
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:22 - Apr 7 with 4571 views | GunnsAirkick |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:21 - Apr 7 by sparks |
Yes. Aimed at a Sikh linesman,
I don't count the abuse directed at Magilton which was prefaced with "Irish" given that Irish is not a race.
Generally though, I have difficulty with the narrative that is now being created. John Barnes said the other day that he didnt see why we were so up in arms abotu the recent England game, when we dont deal with the issues which exist everyday in English football.
Whilst issues which arise should be dealt with more severely and promptly, I simply don't see this apparent ongoing pervasive issue here. Which makes Rose's comments rather baffling.
I have watcehd football at all levels for 30 odd years. Including the one above (which was along time ago now) I can only think of one other low level racist incident I have witnessed (some moron at a non league game said "Hey its the united nations" as the opposition ran out.) |
Ah right, so you haven't seen it, so it doesn't exist. Good one.
In terms of our club I agree, but there are multiple examples of it happening at other clubs in the modern game. What an absurd comment. | | | |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:33 - Apr 7 with 4517 views | le2blue |
Ipswich v Bradford around 89 or 90...when away fans were still in half the north stand...ipswich signing "you've got (people from Pakistan) in your crowd we aint"...that is the last time i can recall. |  | | |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:36 - Apr 7 with 4486 views | le2blue |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:33 - Apr 7 by le2blue |
Ipswich v Bradford around 89 or 90...when away fans were still in half the north stand...ipswich signing "you've got (people from Pakistan) in your crowd we aint"...that is the last time i can recall. |
I also recall up until recently Ipswich fans quite regularly singing to Brighton fans..."does your boyfriend know you're here" [Post edited 7 Apr 2019 9:37]
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:41 - Apr 7 with 4474 views | gtsb |
I lived in Ipswich between 1980-82. I was in what we will call a naughty boys home in Belstead Road. It was the first time I'd ever encountered a close society where people weren't all white. I'd come from Sudbury where at the the time I can only recall two people I remember who weren't white. This placed housed twelve of us and a quarter were black. It was the best education in terms of racial harmony I could have had. All of us argued every now and again, all of us went on holiday together, all of us ate our meals together and when someone was in trouble we all stuck together. It made me realise we are all the same and racism is wrong from a very young and impressionable age. The one thing that stands out though regarding the football is that only the white boys went even though we collectively talked about it. [Post edited 7 Apr 2019 9:42]
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:45 - Apr 7 with 4440 views | xrayspecs |
Like a lot of clubs, we did not always cover ourselves in glory in the 70s/80s but I think Town fans have moved with the times and the occasional dickhead comment apart, it is not something you hear when following Town.
While explicit racism exists to some degree in football, I am not sure it is as bad as it was in years gone by. What has changed is footballers/media calling it out, which is a good thing. | | | |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:47 - Apr 7 with 4430 views | xrayspecs |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:21 - Apr 7 by sparks |
Yes. Aimed at a Sikh linesman,
I don't count the abuse directed at Magilton which was prefaced with "Irish" given that Irish is not a race.
Generally though, I have difficulty with the narrative that is now being created. John Barnes said the other day that he didnt see why we were so up in arms abotu the recent England game, when we dont deal with the issues which exist everyday in English football.
Whilst issues which arise should be dealt with more severely and promptly, I simply don't see this apparent ongoing pervasive issue here. Which makes Rose's comments rather baffling.
I have watcehd football at all levels for 30 odd years. Including the one above (which was along time ago now) I can only think of one other low level racist incident I have witnessed (some moron at a non league game said "Hey its the united nations" as the opposition ran out.) |
I agree with you. I am not sure it is as common as it was thirty or forty years ago.
It is still wrong. What has changed is players' and society's willingness to confront it head-on rather than accept it as part of the game. | | | |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:51 - Apr 7 with 4399 views | Reuser_is_God |
Nope. |  |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:55 - Apr 7 with 4394 views | textbackup |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:17 - Apr 7 by GunnsAirkick |
Twice.
The worst one I've heard is at Maine Road, some of our fans were singing "I'd rather be a P@ki than a manc".
The only other time was when I heard someone abusing JET, some guy said "put some effort into it blackie!"
Considering how f*cked up football supporters (and people in general) can be, I'd say we're a good bunch overall (based on my experiences).
Wasn't there a chant in the 80's about racial harmony?
On that subject, I love the MOTD FA Cup intro with our black supporters, they can make out we're yokels all they like, I'd say we're more progressive than a lot of clubs. [Post edited 7 Apr 2019 10:46]
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I can only go by what others tell me, but Town have always had a proper good black following, and I love that. | |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 10:00 - Apr 7 with 4370 views | Rozz |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:45 - Apr 7 by xrayspecs |
Like a lot of clubs, we did not always cover ourselves in glory in the 70s/80s but I think Town fans have moved with the times and the occasional dickhead comment apart, it is not something you hear when following Town.
While explicit racism exists to some degree in football, I am not sure it is as bad as it was in years gone by. What has changed is footballers/media calling it out, which is a good thing. |
*Edit: I've never heard anything I'd consider explicitly racist following Town, and long may it continue.
The way racism manifests itself has changed though. I totally agree that incidents at the game are thankfully now a rare occurrence, but the torrent of online abuse (not only racist) is a huge and IMO growing problem in football. See comments on Salah below.
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 10:02 - Apr 7 with 4361 views | SomethingBlue |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:40 - Apr 7 by SomethingBlue |
Not for years although the old boys behind me in Block M when I was a kid used to mutter some pretty awful stuff about, to name two, Samassi Abou and Finidi George that went far beyond criticism of the players' qualities. |
Actually, now I've woken up properly I can't believe I forgot the time at Leicester — perhaps around 2006 — when the guy in front of me was giving it "You're just a town full of P6kis" from the start and not a single steward or other person around us was interested. Eventually I called him out on it, again with no support from anyone, and he briefly turned violent before his mates wrestled him off. Can't remember anything since then though, thankfully. | |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 10:07 - Apr 7 with 4327 views | strikalite |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 09:45 - Apr 7 by xrayspecs |
Like a lot of clubs, we did not always cover ourselves in glory in the 70s/80s but I think Town fans have moved with the times and the occasional dickhead comment apart, it is not something you hear when following Town.
While explicit racism exists to some degree in football, I am not sure it is as bad as it was in years gone by. What has changed is footballers/media calling it out, which is a good thing. |
Anything used to go agree, some pretty disgusting stuff, the Peter Shilton song as a kid still sticks in my mind sung by the North Stand, but absolutely anything went back then to unsettle a player....
But over the years nothing at all sticks in my mind regarding racist comments or songs though, certainly not in the last 10/15 years easily.. |  | | |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 10:12 - Apr 7 with 4288 views | gtsb |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 10:07 - Apr 7 by strikalite |
Anything used to go agree, some pretty disgusting stuff, the Peter Shilton song as a kid still sticks in my mind sung by the North Stand, but absolutely anything went back then to unsettle a player....
But over the years nothing at all sticks in my mind regarding racist comments or songs though, certainly not in the last 10/15 years easily.. |
He shot, he cum
All over Tina's bum
Shiiiilllton
Shillllton | | | |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 10:24 - Apr 7 with 4224 views | clive_baker |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 10:12 - Apr 7 by gtsb |
He shot, he cum
All over Tina's bum
Shiiiilllton
Shillllton |
Wouldn’t say that’s too bad to be honest.
Beckham got worse. |  |
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| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 10:32 - Apr 7 with 4206 views | strikalite |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 10:12 - Apr 7 by gtsb |
He shot, he cum
All over Tina's bum
Shiiiilllton
Shillllton |
Have I then got it wrong when I thought this Tina was killed in a car crash and the North stand kept repeating "Tina Tina" through the game? | | | |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 10:37 - Apr 7 with 4187 views | Bluefish |
| Racism in football - Ipswich edition on 08:40 - Apr 7 by SomethingBlue |
Not for years although the old boys behind me in Block M when I was a kid used to mutter some pretty awful stuff about, to name two, Samassi Abou and Finidi George that went far beyond criticism of the players' qualities. |
It is easier these days just to moan about black players, highlight their mistakes and call them lazy.
I do remember hearing the you BB chant at PR though in the 80s/early 90s | |
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