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Formula One is just so pointless 08:51 - Apr 13 with 6868 viewschristiand

This just me? Why not give the the manufacturers the same model car and see who the best driver is. It’s Mercedes by a distance season on season... so dull.
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Formula One is just so pointless on 15:37 - Apr 14 with 1631 viewsaceviljoen

Formula One is just so pointless on 15:19 - Apr 14 by stonojnr

its more from World Endurance thesedays, they were in hybrid tech long before F1 & it seems to be alot more reliable and more manufacturers have got it working.

5 years into hybrid there should be no excuse for any F1 team to be suffering engine problems, yet Merc are the only ones, again.

F1 is the pursuit of spending hundreds of thousands of pounds sculpting millimetres of carbon that arent even visible in ultra 4k HD.

the era of F1 that was the most enjoyable was when aerodynamics were not the sole determinating factor, the cars were more closely matched, they could overtake without gimmicks, dial down aero, dial up ground effect, sort the engine regs so they arent in perma conserve fuel mode. people want to see flat out & close passing racing


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Formula One is just so pointless on 15:58 - Apr 14 with 1616 viewsStokieBlue

Formula One is just so pointless on 09:32 - Apr 14 by christiand

I didn't watch it thankfully, had some important paint drying to watch.

Appreciate F1 is something you feel strongly about, but It's not moaning or complaining on my part, it's passing comment on a topic. Perhaps stop being so precious?

Wow, it's a forum didn't realise you could have contrasting views?


I'm not precious about it, just highlighting the fact that you felt the need to post multiple whinging posts on a forum about something you didn't watch and clearly don't know much about.

It's a bit weird but unfortunately all too common now.

It's not even a view, the last post was just a glib moan. A view at least has some substance and supporting evidence.

SB
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“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Formula One is just so pointless on 17:48 - Apr 14 with 1583 viewschristiand

Formula One is just so pointless on 15:58 - Apr 14 by StokieBlue

I'm not precious about it, just highlighting the fact that you felt the need to post multiple whinging posts on a forum about something you didn't watch and clearly don't know much about.

It's a bit weird but unfortunately all too common now.

It's not even a view, the last post was just a glib moan. A view at least has some substance and supporting evidence.

SB
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It’s more common when posters ‘whinge’ about people having a different opinion that doesn’t agree with their own, that’s persistently peevish. Think you need to look up the word whinging, clearly you don’t know the definition of the word.

The continued signing off of your posts with SB, now that’s precious!!
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Formula One is just so pointless on 16:13 - May 12 with 1456 viewschristiand

I see another scintillating race today, Mercedes 1, 2 yet again shocker, Mercedes' dominance is making it such a bore-fest of a sport!

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Formula One is just so pointless on 09:24 - May 13 with 1380 viewsStokieBlue

Formula One is just so pointless on 16:13 - May 12 by christiand

I see another scintillating race today, Mercedes 1, 2 yet again shocker, Mercedes' dominance is making it such a bore-fest of a sport!


Given you've said you don't like it and don't watch it I'm not sure why you felt the need to bump this?

Did you complain when Federer won basically every match or when Bolt won every race for years? It's not ideal but it's up to the rest of them to catch up - Ferrari are hardly paupers.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Formula One is just so pointless on 09:26 - May 13 with 1380 viewsNo9

It maynot be of interest yo you but it isn't pointless; many technical advances have come from racing = better brakes, better tyres, better bhp per fuel unit etc. etc.
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Formula One is just so pointless on 09:46 - May 13 with 1369 viewsuefacup81

Make them tow caravans. That'll sort the men from the boys.

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Formula One is just so pointless on 09:50 - May 13 with 1365 viewsStokieBlue

Formula One is just so pointless on 09:46 - May 13 by uefacup81

Make them tow caravans. That'll sort the men from the boys.


The thing is nobody said Federer should place in lead shoes when he was thrashing everyone or Bolt should hop for the race.

The argument only ever seems to be applied to F1. It's strange.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Formula One is just so pointless on 09:53 - May 13 with 1363 viewsWD19

For me the fix is simple. Forget little changes like tweaking wings to impact down force of following cars. Forget big changes like putting them all in the same car (which would kill the 'sport').

Just start every race in reverse order of the world championship points and enjoy the carnage. Only 'issue' would be the missing spectacle of qualifying so maybe give small championship points for a secondary qualifying 'race' the day before or something.
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Formula One is just so pointless on 09:57 - May 13 with 1357 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Formula One is just so pointless on 09:50 - May 13 by StokieBlue

The thing is nobody said Federer should place in lead shoes when he was thrashing everyone or Bolt should hop for the race.

The argument only ever seems to be applied to F1. It's strange.

SB


I’m not sure that was a serious suggestion... 🙂

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Formula One is just so pointless on 09:58 - May 13 with 1357 viewsStokieBlue

Formula One is just so pointless on 09:53 - May 13 by WD19

For me the fix is simple. Forget little changes like tweaking wings to impact down force of following cars. Forget big changes like putting them all in the same car (which would kill the 'sport').

Just start every race in reverse order of the world championship points and enjoy the carnage. Only 'issue' would be the missing spectacle of qualifying so maybe give small championship points for a secondary qualifying 'race' the day before or something.


But why is F1 singled out?

By that logic the faster qualifier in the 400m should have to start in either lane 1 or lane 8 to equalise the final. It's just never done with anything else.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Formula One is just so pointless on 09:58 - May 13 with 1355 viewsStokieBlue

Formula One is just so pointless on 09:57 - May 13 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

I’m not sure that was a serious suggestion... 🙂


Not that one no :).

It's a general point.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Formula One is just so pointless on 10:06 - May 13 with 1345 viewsWD19

Formula One is just so pointless on 09:58 - May 13 by StokieBlue

But why is F1 singled out?

By that logic the faster qualifier in the 400m should have to start in either lane 1 or lane 8 to equalise the final. It's just never done with anything else.

SB


Better horses are handicapped to make the racing more interesting.

Depends on whether you primary interest is the spectacle or the pure sporting achievement.
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Formula One is just so pointless on 10:07 - May 13 with 1344 viewsStokieBlue

Formula One is just so pointless on 10:06 - May 13 by WD19

Better horses are handicapped to make the racing more interesting.

Depends on whether you primary interest is the spectacle or the pure sporting achievement.


That's a fair point with regards to horse racing.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Formula One is just so pointless on 10:12 - May 13 with 1332 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Formula One is just so pointless on 09:58 - May 13 by StokieBlue

Not that one no :).

It's a general point.

SB


I know, but your response did look funny given the suggestion you were replying too

From a spectator viewpoint there would definitely be merit in things like reversing the grid, but as you rightly say that rather goes against the competition side of the sport

Personally I think they should just water the track at random points in the race 🙂
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Formula One is just so pointless on 10:16 - May 13 with 1323 viewsDarth_Koont

It's dull as feck.

I actually enjoyed the Netflix documentary and a chance to get into the personalities and rivalries involved. But the season starts and I lose interest as it becomes about the results.

Like sports and their fans who are obsessed by stats it all just seems to be too far along the obsessive spectrum to be a genuine sport.
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Formula One is just so pointless on 11:09 - May 13 with 1294 viewsThrobbe

I'm not a fan of F1 but the point is that it is the pinnacle of the sport, so manufacturers are pushing to make the cars better throughout the season. That's part of the attraction, but it does mean that sometimes a particular manufacturer gets ahead of the game and is totally dominant.

What you're suggesting is a lot like A1GP, which ran for a few years in the 2000's. The fact that I had to google to remember what it was called tells you how popular a high end single manufacturer race series would be.

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Formula One is just so pointless on 15:37 - May 22 with 1189 viewschristiand

Formula One is just so pointless on 09:24 - May 13 by StokieBlue

Given you've said you don't like it and don't watch it I'm not sure why you felt the need to bump this?

Did you complain when Federer won basically every match or when Bolt won every race for years? It's not ideal but it's up to the rest of them to catch up - Ferrari are hardly paupers.

SB


Using your example SB there were always competitors around to challenge Federer and beat him at times especially during his peak. Regarding F1 currently, there just isn’t anyone competing against Mercedes to create a contest. My point, was to emphasise the fact that it was a Mercedes 1,2 yet again. As a sporting spectacle that makes it a dull affair and not much of a sporting spectacle when the same car or drivers continue to dominate race after race, it’s just not healthy and if anything harmful to the sport. Surely, even you as a F1 fan can acknowledge that?!
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Formula One is just so pointless on 16:07 - May 22 with 1166 viewsDeano69

Introduce reverse parking and hill starts, that will even things up a bit.

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Formula One is just so pointless on 16:57 - May 22 with 1144 viewssundaze

Formula One is just so pointless on 15:37 - May 22 by christiand

Using your example SB there were always competitors around to challenge Federer and beat him at times especially during his peak. Regarding F1 currently, there just isn’t anyone competing against Mercedes to create a contest. My point, was to emphasise the fact that it was a Mercedes 1,2 yet again. As a sporting spectacle that makes it a dull affair and not much of a sporting spectacle when the same car or drivers continue to dominate race after race, it’s just not healthy and if anything harmful to the sport. Surely, even you as a F1 fan can acknowledge that?!
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I am a big F1 fan and I agree with you. I still watch every race on tv, try to attend a couple of races each season, but it's more in hope than expectation.

I remember as a teenager in the late seventies, watching powerboat racing at Oulton Broad . This was the time of the JPS Lotus and at the same time JPS sponsored two local powerboat drivers and they would come to their local club and give all the fans a treat.

The only way they could make it a spectacle was to give them a timing handicap, slowest boats at the start of a ten lap? race, then gradually the other boats would come in. We still had to wait for the excitement of the two JPS boats joining the race nearly half way through but by the end of the race, they either won or lost by only a few seconds.


I would love to see just one F1 race where they would try this, with all the modern technology nowadays, it should be easy to get the timings right.
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Formula One is just so pointless on 17:00 - May 22 with 1142 viewsJon_456

Formula One is just so pointless on 15:37 - May 22 by christiand

Using your example SB there were always competitors around to challenge Federer and beat him at times especially during his peak. Regarding F1 currently, there just isn’t anyone competing against Mercedes to create a contest. My point, was to emphasise the fact that it was a Mercedes 1,2 yet again. As a sporting spectacle that makes it a dull affair and not much of a sporting spectacle when the same car or drivers continue to dominate race after race, it’s just not healthy and if anything harmful to the sport. Surely, even you as a F1 fan can acknowledge that?!
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But the last two years Ferrari have had a car capable of beating Mercedes. The difference is that Mercedes have had Lewis Hamilton and solid team of engineers/mechanics.

The only reason Ferrari didn’t wan it last year was because Sebastian Vettel couldn’t cope with the pressure from Hamilton.

Admittedly this year Ferrari have been way off it, but that’s not Mercedes fault for being too good.

As others have said, if it’s that boring, why are you watching/commenting on it?
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Formula One is just so pointless on 17:49 - May 22 with 1125 viewschristiand

Formula One is just so pointless on 17:00 - May 22 by Jon_456

But the last two years Ferrari have had a car capable of beating Mercedes. The difference is that Mercedes have had Lewis Hamilton and solid team of engineers/mechanics.

The only reason Ferrari didn’t wan it last year was because Sebastian Vettel couldn’t cope with the pressure from Hamilton.

Admittedly this year Ferrari have been way off it, but that’s not Mercedes fault for being too good.

As others have said, if it’s that boring, why are you watching/commenting on it?


I don't thankfully, but when a race is on it gets the coverage so feel compelled to comment as I'm a sports fan like all of us on this forum. If Mercedes continue to dominate the way they are, I have no doubt that the interest will begin to wane as it is becoming too predictable and you don't need to be a F1 enthusiast to recognise it.
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Formula One is just so pointless on 17:50 - May 22 with 1122 viewsRadlett_blue

Formula One is just so pointless on 16:57 - May 22 by sundaze

I am a big F1 fan and I agree with you. I still watch every race on tv, try to attend a couple of races each season, but it's more in hope than expectation.

I remember as a teenager in the late seventies, watching powerboat racing at Oulton Broad . This was the time of the JPS Lotus and at the same time JPS sponsored two local powerboat drivers and they would come to their local club and give all the fans a treat.

The only way they could make it a spectacle was to give them a timing handicap, slowest boats at the start of a ten lap? race, then gradually the other boats would come in. We still had to wait for the excitement of the two JPS boats joining the race nearly half way through but by the end of the race, they either won or lost by only a few seconds.


I would love to see just one F1 race where they would try this, with all the modern technology nowadays, it should be easy to get the timings right.


I think F1 has completely lost its way as aerodynamics have become so important that no-one wants to drive close behind another car. Unless the new regulations (not coming in until 2021) change this significantly, it's going to keep losing viewers. One interesting possibility would to have TWO races on the Sunday, one a sprint race of, say, 20 laps with a random grid, followed by a longer race. However, the big teams wouldn't like this.
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Formula One is just so pointless on 17:56 - May 22 with 1119 viewssundaze

Formula One is just so pointless on 17:49 - May 22 by christiand

I don't thankfully, but when a race is on it gets the coverage so feel compelled to comment as I'm a sports fan like all of us on this forum. If Mercedes continue to dominate the way they are, I have no doubt that the interest will begin to wane as it is becoming too predictable and you don't need to be a F1 enthusiast to recognise it.
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To be fair, there have always been periods of dominance through the history of F1.
McLaren, Williams, Ferrari and Red Bull have all had a number of years when they were untouchable.
However now more than ever it is all about the money, much the same as football I guess.
Mercedes are spending £400 million per year , only Ferrari can get close to that figure.

New regulations in 2021, so all we can do is hope it makes it a more even field, if only for a season or two.
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Formula One is just so pointless on 17:04 - Jun 23 with 907 viewschristiand

Reading the articles on BBC Sport’s homepage, I noticed yet another 1,2 for Mercedes again today. What an exciting season this is for Formula One!! 🤥
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