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Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism 10:56 - Apr 14 with 1089 viewsKropotkin123

Why does such positivity persist around Ipswich Town - a club that has endured one of the worst seasons in its history and been destined for the drop for so long?

The inevitable was confirmed on Saturday, ending a sequence of 17 consecutive seasons in the Championship and putting them in England's third tier for the first time since 1957.

However, rather than dread, the reaction of those connected to the club is one of optimism.

"We really didn't want this to happen," former club captain and record appearance holder Mick Mills told BBC Sport.

"Slowly but surely, we've known it's been coming. It's been a gradual process, maybe a three-year thing.

"But you have to focus on next season and start to look at the players who can start that campaign and hopefully be the club's future."


'Be careful what you wish for'
When Mick McCarthy left Ipswich in April 2018 after five and a half years in charge, former Norwich striker and BBC Radio 5 Live pundit Chris Sutton warned supporters to "be careful what you wish for".

Since Sutton used that phrase, it has been regurgitated by other correspondents and employed to goad Ipswich fans now planning away trips to Fleetwood rather than Fulham next season.

There was mid-table stability under McCarthy, but a large section of fans had been disillusioned with his style of play for some time, with the Yorkshireman not afraid to give as good as he got.

He called out fans who he claimed "ruined" home games last season, calling them "numbskulls", while attendances fell.

Even in hindsight, few Ipswich fans regret seeing him go.

"It's been a difficult season, nobody can deny that," said supporters' club chairman Mark Ramsay.

"But the fans are optimistic. We're looking to the future and moving forward, not backwards.

"The football's been far better this season, far more attractive to watch.

"We like Paul Lambert, he likes us and we want him to become the modern-day Bobby Robson and move forward with a young squad coming out of the academy."

Ex-England captain Mills and Benjamin Bloom, host of The Blue Monday ITFC podcast, echo those sentiments, arguing "change had to come" when owner Marcus Evans decided not to extend McCarthy's contract last year.

"The lack of succession planning and where McCarthy left the club made it very, very hard for an inexperienced manager in Paul Hurst not to fall completely flat on his face," said Bloom.

"Sometimes it's better the devil you know, but sometimes a change can do you good.

"This is, of course, the worst-case scenario. But other clubs have gone down, organised themselves, come back up on a more secure financial footing and created a better feeling on their return, so why can't we?"

The future, however, may be filled with some hazardous precedents.

Plenty of other former Premier League clubs have dropped into League One in the past decade, with several finding the path back treacherous and long.

"What everyone's hanging on to now is a chance to get the club properly organised," Bloom added.

"There's almost been an extended pre-season for Paul Lambert for the past five months.

"You see clubs like Sheffield United and Norwich City, who dropped down before Ipswich - they already had plans set up in terms of contracts and personnel.

"It strikes me in football these days you only really need to have a two-year plan and you're miles ahead of everyone else because of the scale of managerial sackings."


Plotting the path back
Former Norwich manager Lambert's arrival in November has been just one of the turbulent events that have characterised Ipswich's season to forget.

While he was unable to mastermind the great escape many will have dreamt of when he took charge, the die was almost cast during the brief reign of his predecessor Hurst.

He lasted just 14 league games at Portman Road after his decision to leave Shrewsbury Town last summer backfired.

"We're not where we are now because of results in the last 10 games," Lambert said.

"It goes back further than that, to July and August. If the club was how it is now back then, I wouldn't be here because we would have been in a great place.

"It starts in July, your season, and that's what's cost us."

Lambert is no doubt alluding to the huge turnover in playing personnel that characterised Hurst's tenure at Portman Road.

Four key components of McCarthy's squad left before the season started. Adam Webster, Martyn Waghorn, Joe Garner and David McGoldrick left for fellow Championship clubs and in their places came a raft of players from League One and League Two.

"The four best attacking players left in the summer," Mills said.

"The replacements were made, but the fifth-best attacking player from last season in Freddie Sears emerged as the best this season and that tells its own story.

"That's where it went wrong and we just couldn't score goals."

Lambert, perhaps by default rather than design, has put his faith in the club's academy graduates while implementing his own playing style.

Players such as Flynn Downes, Teddy Bishop and Andre Dozzell have emerged from the same production line as former England internationals Kieron Dyer and Richard Wright of previous eras.

"The club has to have a structure in order to build," Lambert added. "The great thing about it is it also has a great support and they deserve to see this club do well."


Evans pays price for prudence?
While other clubs have pushed hard financially to chase the dream of promotion to the Premier League, Ipswich owner Evans has been more frugal.

McCarthy's era was characterised by having a watertight transfer budget, bringing in players on frees or using his powers of negotiation to pull off a bargain.

But has that financial caution been Evans' and Ipswich's ultimate downfall?

"It's a long story with Evans as he was the only person available to buy the club when he did and take on the level of debt," said Mills.

"I think he didn't really know the game too well then and trusted managers too much. Amazingly, when he did get one who knew the game well, he slashed the budget.

"All the time, it's just been slightly wrong and maybe if he'd surrounded himself with football people rather than business or financial people, it may have been different."

Ramsay added: "We'd all like to see the owner put more money in, but I think we're realistic and know we need to stay on an even keel and the club needs to keep moving forward.

"We don't want to end up in the sort of situation Bolton find themselves."


View from the commentator
Brenner Woolley, BBC Radio Suffolk

Even for a club that has had more bad times than good over the past two decades, this is a massive blow.

The huge drop-off in television revenue, and potentially gate receipts, will mean that cutbacks on and off the pitch are inevitable.

Players who have relevant clauses in their contracts will be forced into taking pay cuts, while the threat of redundancy looms large over the club's non-playing staff.

While owner Evans will continue to bankroll the club's day-to-day running, he is unlikely to give Lambert a sizeable war chest for recruitment.

For the most part, the Scotsman will spend the summer trying to lure free agents to Portman Road, while if he does wish to invest significantly, there is every chance he will have to sell before he can buy.

Bizarrely, given their side's dreadful position, there is a real spring in the step of Ipswich fans - many of whom believe Town's stay in the third tier will only last one season.

Their positivity is largely based on Lambert's previous success with Norwich, the signing of experienced midfielder Alan Judge and the hope that a crop of talented youngsters can all step up.

The more pragmatic believe a good start to 2019-20 is imperative. Otherwise, more choppy waters could lie ahead.

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Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:05 - Apr 14 with 1051 viewsGuthrum

That, for once in the media, is a pretty balanced analysis.

Perhaps because they are drawing upon Mills, Bloom, Ramsay and Woolley, rather than Sutton-style regurgiquotes.

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Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:14 - Apr 14 with 1014 viewsNo9

Good post.
The reality, without going into all the side issues + right & wrongs is, that in taking ITFC to the promised land considerable debts were accrued, debt that were unustainable without PL revenue.
ITFC went into admin but remained a potential to retunr to the premised land with Joe Royale making it seem that the play-offs were a given.
Since he departed is has been a long slow decline to where we are now. I agree entirely with Mick Mills, it has been on the cards for (at least) 3 seasons.
At last Mr E realising that he is waving good bye to the thick end of £100 Mn has to act and his options are few.
He has acted by appointing a manager who ahs returned excitement & optimism to PR tempered with the reality that next season will need a good start and maintained form.
Failure for both men will be painful, I feel sure they are aware of that.
The fans are, I suggest optimistic because both man need success.
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Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:15 - Apr 14 with 1011 viewsKropotkin123

Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:05 - Apr 14 by Guthrum

That, for once in the media, is a pretty balanced analysis.

Perhaps because they are drawing upon Mills, Bloom, Ramsay and Woolley, rather than Sutton-style regurgiquotes.


Yeah, it is a nice read. It doesn't seem like we are miss represented.

As an outsider though, I think unless you watch the videos, like on the Scenes thread, those outside of Ipswich won't really understand. But still nice to see a national news outlet try.

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Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:21 - Apr 14 with 977 viewsKropotkin123

Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:14 - Apr 14 by No9

Good post.
The reality, without going into all the side issues + right & wrongs is, that in taking ITFC to the promised land considerable debts were accrued, debt that were unustainable without PL revenue.
ITFC went into admin but remained a potential to retunr to the premised land with Joe Royale making it seem that the play-offs were a given.
Since he departed is has been a long slow decline to where we are now. I agree entirely with Mick Mills, it has been on the cards for (at least) 3 seasons.
At last Mr E realising that he is waving good bye to the thick end of £100 Mn has to act and his options are few.
He has acted by appointing a manager who ahs returned excitement & optimism to PR tempered with the reality that next season will need a good start and maintained form.
Failure for both men will be painful, I feel sure they are aware of that.
The fans are, I suggest optimistic because both man need success.


I actually think the optimism part is the main thing they get wrong. I think a lot of people are rightly nervous. I think the support is so strong and so defiant because fans increasing want to be an active part of a rebuild.If things are right in the fanbase, that can be a platform for the team. That is largely thanks to Blue Action, rather than an unwavering belief that it will be easy or we will be back in one go.

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Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:23 - Apr 14 with 967 viewsDarth_Koont

Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:21 - Apr 14 by Kropotkin123

I actually think the optimism part is the main thing they get wrong. I think a lot of people are rightly nervous. I think the support is so strong and so defiant because fans increasing want to be an active part of a rebuild.If things are right in the fanbase, that can be a platform for the team. That is largely thanks to Blue Action, rather than an unwavering belief that it will be easy or we will be back in one go.


Yes, big shout out to Blue Action. I think they've been pretty instrumental in keeping the mood up and improving the atmosphere.

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Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:25 - Apr 14 with 955 viewsArnieM

Why?

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GIVING BACK OUR IDENTITY
GENUINE HOPE
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Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:30 - Apr 14 with 940 viewsGuthrum

Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:23 - Apr 14 by Darth_Koont

Yes, big shout out to Blue Action. I think they've been pretty instrumental in keeping the mood up and improving the atmosphere.


And, importantly, getting that across to the club. Their efforts have been so much more than just singing in the SBRL.

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Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:41 - Apr 14 with 893 viewsSouperJim

Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:30 - Apr 14 by Guthrum

And, importantly, getting that across to the club. Their efforts have been so much more than just singing in the SBRL.


Spot on.

Now is the time for us fans to really show our quality. The support since Lambert came in has been fantastic, but we absolutely must keep this up for the remaining games and then into the start of next season. Critically, even if we do not get off to the rocket start we desperately hope for, the fans simply must stay behind the team. If we can keep the atmosphere like it is now, we have every chance of roaring the team on to a top 2 finish next season. If we start to get wobbly when the going gets tough, we could be in for a long stay in the third tier.

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Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:43 - Apr 14 with 884 viewsSE1blue

Ipswich Town: Why fans are meeting relegation to League One with optimism on 11:21 - Apr 14 by Kropotkin123

I actually think the optimism part is the main thing they get wrong. I think a lot of people are rightly nervous. I think the support is so strong and so defiant because fans increasing want to be an active part of a rebuild.If things are right in the fanbase, that can be a platform for the team. That is largely thanks to Blue Action, rather than an unwavering belief that it will be easy or we will be back in one go.


All good points.

Worryingly, and I’ll admit being guilty of this, I think much of the initial optimism stems from seeing Norwich bounce back, with the man we have and thinking this’ll happen again.

I put hope in Keanes and MM’s track history...whilst I’m optimistic for Lambert I’m much more cautious based on what has happened since Evans took over. Sadly, Norwich and Ipswich have been two very different clubs since the millennium.

Maintaining my optimism needs to come via results in august.

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