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For all you left leaning remainers 12:00 - Apr 15 with 14972 viewsgazzer1999

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1114369/eu-news-brexit-latest-theresa-may-labo
This man spoke a lot of truth, and spent a large part of his life wanting to come out of the EU, shame his son doesn't have the same morals.
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For all you left leaning remainers on 10:51 - Apr 16 with 3556 viewsRyorry

For all you left leaning remainers on 10:31 - Apr 16 by gazzer1999

Much like this forum.
However everyone is entitled to their opinion, thats what makes the world and this country a great place. Without different opinions we would probably end up like the old Soviet Union or North Korea.
The only thing I find unpleasant is if you disagree with the remainers on this site is you are instantly branded stupid or racist.


"However everyone is entitled to their opinion, thats what makes the world and this country a great place."

Yes, one of the things anyway.

"The only thing I find unpleasant is if you disagree with the remainers on this site is you are instantly branded stupid or racist."

Speaking for myself, I have no problem whatsoever with people who express a point of view that I disagree with - as long as they do so intelligently and reasonably.

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For all you left leaning remainers on 10:56 - Apr 16 with 3550 viewsWeWereZombies

For all you left leaning remainers on 08:35 - Apr 16 by gazzer1999

Is that why the UK has just overtaken the US for being the top destination for investment despite Brexit?
Bet you won't read that in your beloved Guardian.
For the record Labour are just inherently split on Europe as well, always have been, the true lefties have always been anti EU, its just the Tory wannabes like Chuka and co that have pro Europe.


Can you post a source for that, please.

I just looked up Wikipedia and we are third behind The Netherlands and the USA, the EU as a whole gets more than 50% more foreign direct investment than the USA by the way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_received_FDI

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For all you left leaning remainers on 11:05 - Apr 16 with 3517 viewsGlasgowBlue

For all you left leaning remainers on 10:56 - Apr 16 by WeWereZombies

Can you post a source for that, please.

I just looked up Wikipedia and we are third behind The Netherlands and the USA, the EU as a whole gets more than 50% more foreign direct investment than the USA by the way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_received_FDI


https://apnews.com/c879be500904499a97f751ff40916c31?fbclid=IwAR1RaX3eVJsLPYOgf_f

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For all you left leaning remainers on 11:08 - Apr 16 with 3534 viewsgazzer1999

For all you left leaning remainers on 11:05 - Apr 16 by GlasgowBlue

https://apnews.com/c879be500904499a97f751ff40916c31?fbclid=IwAR1RaX3eVJsLPYOgf_f


Thank you GlasgowBlue you just saved me a job. Fancy someone looking on Wikipedia for the answer.
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For all you left leaning remainers on 11:27 - Apr 16 with 3514 viewsHerbivore

For all you left leaning remainers on 11:05 - Apr 16 by GlasgowBlue

https://apnews.com/c879be500904499a97f751ff40916c31?fbclid=IwAR1RaX3eVJsLPYOgf_f


That's not exactly a positive message, foreign money buying up British assets because the weak pound makes them good value.

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For all you left leaning remainers on 11:29 - Apr 16 with 3514 viewsJonnosdreadlocks

For all you left leaning remainers on 08:55 - Apr 16 by Herbivore

Every time gazzer and jonno open their mouths I despair at how limited the understanding of Brexiteers is and that they are the ones who have seized control of the country. Utterly fooking depressing.


I think you are an arrogant tedious 'fooking' bore if its any consolation.

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For all you left leaning remainers on 11:34 - Apr 16 with 3502 viewsSpruceMoose

For all you left leaning remainers on 11:29 - Apr 16 by Jonnosdreadlocks

I think you are an arrogant tedious 'fooking' bore if its any consolation.


The controversial news here is that you claim to think!

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For all you left leaning remainers on 11:42 - Apr 16 with 3492 viewsJonnosdreadlocks

For all you left leaning remainers on 11:34 - Apr 16 by SpruceMoose

The controversial news here is that you claim to think!


You prove my point. You are another grotty example of some of those on here with a total intolerance of others views. When you getting your own column Spruce? You seem to think you are the boss of this board..

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For all you left leaning remainers on 11:48 - Apr 16 with 3464 viewsGlasgowBlue

For all you left leaning remainers on 11:27 - Apr 16 by Herbivore

That's not exactly a positive message, foreign money buying up British assets because the weak pound makes them good value.


I wasn't passing comment either way. Somebody asked for a link that the UK has overtaken the USA as the top investment destination in the world.

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For all you left leaning remainers on 12:02 - Apr 16 with 3474 viewsSpruceMoose

For all you left leaning remainers on 11:42 - Apr 16 by Jonnosdreadlocks

You prove my point. You are another grotty example of some of those on here with a total intolerance of others views. When you getting your own column Spruce? You seem to think you are the boss of this board..


You know what? If I did have a column I know you'd obsessively read it!

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For all you left leaning remainers on 12:19 - Apr 16 with 3452 viewsHerbivore

For all you left leaning remainers on 11:29 - Apr 16 by Jonnosdreadlocks

I think you are an arrogant tedious 'fooking' bore if its any consolation.


That's a bit rude, sweetheart.

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For all you left leaning remainers on 12:20 - Apr 16 with 3452 viewsmr_bean

For all you left leaning remainers on 12:53 - Apr 15 by Mullet

You had the cheek to criticise my use of neutral sources as "left-leaning" and then lazily cite the bloody Express!

What a joke. The Diana memorial rag FFS.


The Express (and The Daily Mail) = propaganda masquerading as news.
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For all you left leaning remainers on 12:59 - Apr 16 with 3414 viewsClapham_Junction

For all you left leaning remainers on 11:05 - Apr 16 by GlasgowBlue

https://apnews.com/c879be500904499a97f751ff40916c31?fbclid=IwAR1RaX3eVJsLPYOgf_f


One question I would raise here is about how this survey defines investment.

When someone says that country X is getting a lot of investment, I'd take that to mean that companies were setting up there, building factories, opening offices etc.

However, what this story says is that foreign companies are buying existing British companies, which would suggest to me that profits made in the UK are now more likely to be taken overseas, making us poorer in the long-run.

And as Herbivore says, the article also mentions that one of the reasons is the weak pound - a major fear around Brexit is that any kind of economic shock will be a catalyst for the cheap sell-off of more of our assets... And are investors banking on us becoming some kind of low-regulation outpost where they can increase profits by not having pesky rules on corporate behaviour?
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For all you left leaning remainers on 13:09 - Apr 16 with 3400 viewsfooters

For all you left leaning remainers on 12:59 - Apr 16 by Clapham_Junction

One question I would raise here is about how this survey defines investment.

When someone says that country X is getting a lot of investment, I'd take that to mean that companies were setting up there, building factories, opening offices etc.

However, what this story says is that foreign companies are buying existing British companies, which would suggest to me that profits made in the UK are now more likely to be taken overseas, making us poorer in the long-run.

And as Herbivore says, the article also mentions that one of the reasons is the weak pound - a major fear around Brexit is that any kind of economic shock will be a catalyst for the cheap sell-off of more of our assets... And are investors banking on us becoming some kind of low-regulation outpost where they can increase profits by not having pesky rules on corporate behaviour?


Spot on.

The economy has contracted by more than 2% since the vote and companies are queuing up to buy undervalued British assets.

There has been capital flight of more than £2 trillion pounds from the City this year alone and the BoE had to extend QE and provide billions in emergency funds after the vote.

Anyone who thinks this is an economic success story hasn't got a clue.

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For all you left leaning remainers on 13:29 - Apr 16 with 3359 viewsXYZ

For all you left leaning remainers on 12:59 - Apr 16 by Clapham_Junction

One question I would raise here is about how this survey defines investment.

When someone says that country X is getting a lot of investment, I'd take that to mean that companies were setting up there, building factories, opening offices etc.

However, what this story says is that foreign companies are buying existing British companies, which would suggest to me that profits made in the UK are now more likely to be taken overseas, making us poorer in the long-run.

And as Herbivore says, the article also mentions that one of the reasons is the weak pound - a major fear around Brexit is that any kind of economic shock will be a catalyst for the cheap sell-off of more of our assets... And are investors banking on us becoming some kind of low-regulation outpost where they can increase profits by not having pesky rules on corporate behaviour?


Indeed - e.g. Comcast's acquisition of Sky for $39bn. I presume a significant chunk of this went to Murdoch.

Am I right in my understanding that a US company paying Murdoch (outside the UK) for a UK asset counts as "investment in the UK"?

It's just one foreigner buying the rights to future (UK derived) profits from another foreigner.
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For all you left leaning remainers on 14:02 - Apr 16 with 3341 viewsfooters

For all you left leaning remainers on 13:29 - Apr 16 by XYZ

Indeed - e.g. Comcast's acquisition of Sky for $39bn. I presume a significant chunk of this went to Murdoch.

Am I right in my understanding that a US company paying Murdoch (outside the UK) for a UK asset counts as "investment in the UK"?

It's just one foreigner buying the rights to future (UK derived) profits from another foreigner.


Yeah it technically counts towards FDI. Think it was Disney who made the purchase in the end, though it was a v complicated deal.

Fun times for British firms.

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For all you left leaning remainers on 14:18 - Apr 16 with 3321 viewsgazzer1999

For all you left leaning remainers on 13:09 - Apr 16 by footers

Spot on.

The economy has contracted by more than 2% since the vote and companies are queuing up to buy undervalued British assets.

There has been capital flight of more than £2 trillion pounds from the City this year alone and the BoE had to extend QE and provide billions in emergency funds after the vote.

Anyone who thinks this is an economic success story hasn't got a clue.


I think if you look the EU are still doing QE not just the UK, who if my memory serves me right are not doing so now. We were hardly a success story before the vote in most socialists views anyway before brexit. The EU is on course for a pretty bad downturn at the moment, dragged down by the southern states. Strange really the very thing the "collective" EU is about, are prepared to bankrupt those economies. Can you imagine what the people in Greece are going through? finding their pensions have been halved, youth unemployment at record levels across the EU. Why do a lot of young Europeans still see Britain as a good place to come and live and work, maybe we can't see it ourselves.
As for the comment the economy has contracted by more than 2 % that could be subjective as to the reason, it could be because we are still suffering from the last financial crash. But Great Britain does have record numbers in employment, something to be proud of.
Better to do a part time job than claim benefits. (before all the negative comments about poorly paid jobs and the gig economy)
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For all you left leaning remainers on 14:37 - Apr 16 with 3296 viewsSpruceMoose

For all you left leaning remainers on 14:18 - Apr 16 by gazzer1999

I think if you look the EU are still doing QE not just the UK, who if my memory serves me right are not doing so now. We were hardly a success story before the vote in most socialists views anyway before brexit. The EU is on course for a pretty bad downturn at the moment, dragged down by the southern states. Strange really the very thing the "collective" EU is about, are prepared to bankrupt those economies. Can you imagine what the people in Greece are going through? finding their pensions have been halved, youth unemployment at record levels across the EU. Why do a lot of young Europeans still see Britain as a good place to come and live and work, maybe we can't see it ourselves.
As for the comment the economy has contracted by more than 2 % that could be subjective as to the reason, it could be because we are still suffering from the last financial crash. But Great Britain does have record numbers in employment, something to be proud of.
Better to do a part time job than claim benefits. (before all the negative comments about poorly paid jobs and the gig economy)


"Better to do a part time job than claim benefits. (before all the negative comments about poorly paid jobs and the gig economy)"

Only a moron would work part time and turn down benefits if it didn't pay enough to cover the rent.

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For all you left leaning remainers on 14:47 - Apr 16 with 3289 viewsgazzer1999

For all you left leaning remainers on 14:37 - Apr 16 by SpruceMoose

"Better to do a part time job than claim benefits. (before all the negative comments about poorly paid jobs and the gig economy)"

Only a moron would work part time and turn down benefits if it didn't pay enough to cover the rent.


And that my friend is the problem, no aspiration.
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For all you left leaning remainers on 14:51 - Apr 16 with 3278 viewsSpruceMoose

For all you left leaning remainers on 14:47 - Apr 16 by gazzer1999

And that my friend is the problem, no aspiration.


Wrong.

The issue is businesses not paying a living wage.

Come on, this is basic stuff matey, not difficult to follow.

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For all you left leaning remainers on 14:51 - Apr 16 with 3271 viewsXYZ

For all you left leaning remainers on 14:47 - Apr 16 by gazzer1999

And that my friend is the problem, no aspiration.


No food leaves no room for aspiration. That policy is a busted flush.
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For all you left leaning remainers on 14:58 - Apr 16 with 3263 viewsXYZ

For all you left leaning remainers on 14:18 - Apr 16 by gazzer1999

I think if you look the EU are still doing QE not just the UK, who if my memory serves me right are not doing so now. We were hardly a success story before the vote in most socialists views anyway before brexit. The EU is on course for a pretty bad downturn at the moment, dragged down by the southern states. Strange really the very thing the "collective" EU is about, are prepared to bankrupt those economies. Can you imagine what the people in Greece are going through? finding their pensions have been halved, youth unemployment at record levels across the EU. Why do a lot of young Europeans still see Britain as a good place to come and live and work, maybe we can't see it ourselves.
As for the comment the economy has contracted by more than 2 % that could be subjective as to the reason, it could be because we are still suffering from the last financial crash. But Great Britain does have record numbers in employment, something to be proud of.
Better to do a part time job than claim benefits. (before all the negative comments about poorly paid jobs and the gig economy)


When is this EU downturn coming? When's the € crashing? I keep hearing about this, but it never seems to happen.

Anyone got the Q4 2018 figures? A quick google suggests EU growth at 1.5% and the UK at 0.2%, but I'm not convinced these are correct or comparable.
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For all you left leaning remainers on 15:04 - Apr 16 with 3261 viewsSpruceMoose

For all you left leaning remainers on 14:51 - Apr 16 by XYZ

No food leaves no room for aspiration. That policy is a busted flush.


Indeed, it's rather easy to dish out high minded ideals when you're able to afford your living expenses.

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For all you left leaning remainers on 15:19 - Apr 16 with 3256 viewsWeWereZombies

For all you left leaning remainers on 11:05 - Apr 16 by GlasgowBlue

https://apnews.com/c879be500904499a97f751ff40916c31?fbclid=IwAR1RaX3eVJsLPYOgf_f


That is a survey, not audited results. You should know better than that with your Price Waterhouse background. Sorry to be so admonishing and hope that the recovery from your operation is going smoothly.

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For all you left leaning remainers on 15:43 - Apr 16 with 3248 viewsWeWereZombies

For all you left leaning remainers on 12:59 - Apr 16 by Clapham_Junction

One question I would raise here is about how this survey defines investment.

When someone says that country X is getting a lot of investment, I'd take that to mean that companies were setting up there, building factories, opening offices etc.

However, what this story says is that foreign companies are buying existing British companies, which would suggest to me that profits made in the UK are now more likely to be taken overseas, making us poorer in the long-run.

And as Herbivore says, the article also mentions that one of the reasons is the weak pound - a major fear around Brexit is that any kind of economic shock will be a catalyst for the cheap sell-off of more of our assets... And are investors banking on us becoming some kind of low-regulation outpost where they can increase profits by not having pesky rules on corporate behaviour?


Your last sentence is particularly tragic when you consider the lead the United Kingdom used to take in standard setting and the trust that others used to place in us.

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