How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? 14:49 - May 2 with 3787 views | BrixtonBlue | Are they trying to start a football team? | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 14:50 - May 2 with 2709 views | No9 | The important thing is not how many BUT why are they, as MP's afforded special treatment? Civils servants have gone to jail for similar events | | | |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:07 - May 2 with 2675 views | itfcjoe | 2 | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:15 - May 2 with 2657 views | BlueBadger | It's probably time now to change the official job title to 'disgraced former defence secretary'. | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:18 - May 2 with 2654 views | crunchie1978 | I dont think you can include the departing defence secretary in the starting 11 | | | |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:20 - May 2 with 2653 views | factual_blue | All tories are a disgrace. | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:20 - May 2 with 2647 views | BrixtonBlue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:07 - May 2 by itfcjoe | 2 |
I can think of 3 just off the top of my head. | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:25 - May 2 with 2636 views | itfcjoe |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:20 - May 2 by BrixtonBlue | I can think of 3 just off the top of my head. |
Even with 3.... - It's not enough for even a 5 a side team - And with 40 cabinet resignations in last 2 years to only have that many disgraced ones over a decade seems under par.... | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:26 - May 2 with 2637 views | hampstead_blue | As far as I can tell there has been no evidence put forward to prove guilt. It's just a letter from the PM. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:29 - May 2 with 2619 views | BlueBadger |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:26 - May 2 by hampstead_blue | As far as I can tell there has been no evidence put forward to prove guilt. It's just a letter from the PM. |
Given the level of incompetence displayed by various cabinet ministers that HASN'T seen them get the sack under May I can only conclude that she's either throwing him under the bus or there's genuine, serious wrongdoing. | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:42 - May 2 with 2597 views | WeWereZombies |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:29 - May 2 by BlueBadger | Given the level of incompetence displayed by various cabinet ministers that HASN'T seen them get the sack under May I can only conclude that she's either throwing him under the bus or there's genuine, serious wrongdoing. |
Throwing him under the bus, she has said there will be no further action but she has lost confidence in him...according to her de facto deputy! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48134965 | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:56 - May 2 with 2584 views | GlasgowBlue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:20 - May 2 by BrixtonBlue | I can think of 3 just off the top of my head. |
3-a-side football team? Can't see a future in it. | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 16:37 - May 2 with 2550 views | factual_blue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:29 - May 2 by BlueBadger | Given the level of incompetence displayed by various cabinet ministers that HASN'T seen them get the sack under May I can only conclude that she's either throwing him under the bus or there's genuine, serious wrongdoing. |
The latter. Plus nobody in the cabinet or the higher echelons of the MOD likes him. He is, I gather, an obnoxious, incompetent self-promoting berk (in the original rhyming slang sense). | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 17:30 - May 2 with 2506 views | BrixtonBlue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:56 - May 2 by GlasgowBlue | 3-a-side football team? Can't see a future in it. |
I did say off the top of my head and asked for more in the OP. Do keep up. | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 17:48 - May 2 with 2488 views | hampstead_blue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:29 - May 2 by BlueBadger | Given the level of incompetence displayed by various cabinet ministers that HASN'T seen them get the sack under May I can only conclude that she's either throwing him under the bus or there's genuine, serious wrongdoing. |
it does seem odd that she wrote what she did but then failed to press any charges. That tells me she is making a decision based on circumstantial evidence and can't back it up. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 17:57 - May 2 with 2472 views | GlasgowBlue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 17:30 - May 2 by BrixtonBlue | I did say off the top of my head and asked for more in the OP. Do keep up. |
Considering you were unaware of the scale of human rights abuses in China and believed that the last general election was taking place on both Thursday and Friday due to a surge in voter applications, you'll forgive me for disbelieving that anything you post with regards to politics comes "off the top of your head". You most likely saw the figure quoted on a social media post or a meme. Probably the same place you got your defences of Corbyn's latest antisemitism difficulty earlier today as you didn't go anywhere near the thread yesterday. | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 18:07 - May 2 with 2452 views | factual_blue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 17:48 - May 2 by hampstead_blue | it does seem odd that she wrote what she did but then failed to press any charges. That tells me she is making a decision based on circumstantial evidence and can't back it up. |
It tells me that there's compelling evidence he was responsible for the leak, and that it's not the PM's call to ask for a police investigation. There's also the important constitutional point that the Prime Minister can't 'press charges': that's a job for the judicial bodies that are independent of politicians. But apart from that, you're correct in every aspect. | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 18:08 - May 2 with 2451 views | factual_blue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 15:20 - May 2 by factual_blue | All tories are a disgrace. |
QED. | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 18:11 - May 2 with 2441 views | BrixtonBlue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 17:57 - May 2 by GlasgowBlue | Considering you were unaware of the scale of human rights abuses in China and believed that the last general election was taking place on both Thursday and Friday due to a surge in voter applications, you'll forgive me for disbelieving that anything you post with regards to politics comes "off the top of your head". You most likely saw the figure quoted on a social media post or a meme. Probably the same place you got your defences of Corbyn's latest antisemitism difficulty earlier today as you didn't go anywhere near the thread yesterday. |
Ad hominem. Another standard Glassers tactic. | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 18:49 - May 2 with 2396 views | crunchie1978 |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 18:07 - May 2 by factual_blue | It tells me that there's compelling evidence he was responsible for the leak, and that it's not the PM's call to ask for a police investigation. There's also the important constitutional point that the Prime Minister can't 'press charges': that's a job for the judicial bodies that are independent of politicians. But apart from that, you're correct in every aspect. |
Sorry....what compelling evidence is that? | | | |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 19:17 - May 2 with 2355 views | hampstead_blue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 18:07 - May 2 by factual_blue | It tells me that there's compelling evidence he was responsible for the leak, and that it's not the PM's call to ask for a police investigation. There's also the important constitutional point that the Prime Minister can't 'press charges': that's a job for the judicial bodies that are independent of politicians. But apart from that, you're correct in every aspect. |
If those independent of the PM don't press charges in such an important matter then surely it indicates the weakness of any evidence. As a signatory of the OSA I would get charged if to said; ".......................". No charge, serious crime, tells me there is no firm evidence. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 20:03 - May 2 with 2315 views | crunchie1978 |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 19:17 - May 2 by hampstead_blue | If those independent of the PM don't press charges in such an important matter then surely it indicates the weakness of any evidence. As a signatory of the OSA I would get charged if to said; ".......................". No charge, serious crime, tells me there is no firm evidence. |
Agree totally. I dont know why the press are not questioning this more. It's all manufactured lies to distract from the greater issue at hand! | | | |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 20:13 - May 2 with 2302 views | jas0999 | How many disgraced Labour MPs are there? | | | |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 20:13 - May 2 with 2301 views | factual_blue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 19:17 - May 2 by hampstead_blue | If those independent of the PM don't press charges in such an important matter then surely it indicates the weakness of any evidence. As a signatory of the OSA I would get charged if to said; ".......................". No charge, serious crime, tells me there is no firm evidence. |
You don't sign the Official Secrets Act. You sign a piece of paper that says you've had the provisions of the said Act drawn to your attention. The Official Secrets Act isn't a club you join. It applies to everybody, even those who don't sign it. | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 20:18 - May 2 with 2288 views | factual_blue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 20:13 - May 2 by jas0999 | How many disgraced Labour MPs are there? |
Well, there's John Profumo, Lord Lambton, Jonathon Aitken, Jeffrey Archer, Sir Michael Grylls... oh, wait... | |
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How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 20:20 - May 2 with 2283 views | BrixtonBlue |
How many disgraced former defence secretaries have the Tories got now? on 20:13 - May 2 by jas0999 | How many disgraced Labour MPs are there? |
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