Maitland-Niles 20:55 - May 9 with 6308 views | Guthrum | Remember when he was not terribly effective for Ipswich? Now playing in a Europa League semi-final. | |
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Maitland-Niles on 21:06 - May 9 with 5714 views | WD19 | I thought exactly the same thing about an hour ago. Limited impact here and never gets much of a mention amongst Micks signings. Although in the interests of balance, he has looked a relative weak link tonight.... | | | |
Maitland-Niles on 21:15 - May 9 with 5674 views | Rocky | I think some loan players from "top clubs" are a bit peeved when their managers recommend they be loaned out to lower league sides - and just go through the motions. See also Harry Kane at Nodge etc etc. | | | |
Maitland-Niles on 21:18 - May 9 with 5650 views | Swansea_Blue |
Maitland-Niles on 21:15 - May 9 by Rocky | I think some loan players from "top clubs" are a bit peeved when their managers recommend they be loaned out to lower league sides - and just go through the motions. See also Harry Kane at Nodge etc etc. |
Doesn’t help being surrounded by utter sh*te either! Or watching the ball sailing over your head for 80 minutes. | |
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Maitland-Niles on 21:26 - May 9 with 5616 views | WarkTheWarkITFC | All the more surprising, when a young player can go from looking anonymous in the Championship in large parts to being in the Europa League semi final, that fans are quick to write off similar players from having an impact in League One! | |
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Maitland-Niles on 21:28 - May 9 with 5595 views | J2BLUE | He was superb in his debut at Portman Road. He was 17 and was never going to be a superstar or able to go 100% all season. | |
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Maitland-Niles on 22:45 - May 9 with 5370 views | Steve_M | He started the season really well, then the physicality of the league caught up with him. Obviously some fans just assumed that was down to him thinking he was too good for us, can't think why they might have thought that though.... [Post edited 10 May 2019 8:03]
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Maitland-Niles on 22:51 - May 9 with 5330 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Maitland-Niles on 22:45 - May 9 by Steve_M | He started the season really well, then the physicality of the league caught up with him. Obviously some fans just assumed that was down to him thinking he was too good for us, can't think why they might have thought that though.... [Post edited 10 May 2019 8:03]
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LOL, this | |
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Maitland-Niles on 23:09 - May 9 with 5278 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
Maitland-Niles on 21:28 - May 9 by J2BLUE | He was superb in his debut at Portman Road. He was 17 and was never going to be a superstar or able to go 100% all season. |
Wasn’t that against Burnley? He was mom and scored then came off and gave me his shirt! As he was 17 he couldn’t have Sky bet badges. | | | | Login to get fewer ads
Maitland-Niles on 08:18 - May 10 with 4945 views | Churchman | I thought he was too lightweight and wouldn’t make the grade. Could not see anything in him - Div 3, championship at best.... Oops! Well done him though. | | | |
Maitland-Niles on 09:13 - May 10 with 4850 views | Wickets | As some have already said he was only 17 and great early season , i well remember his first game Brentford away he was great as was Fraser .I remember saying at the time both looked as though they will be top players . | | | |
Maitland-Niles on 10:41 - May 10 with 4709 views | Terry_Nutkins |
Maitland-Niles on 21:15 - May 9 by Rocky | I think some loan players from "top clubs" are a bit peeved when their managers recommend they be loaned out to lower league sides - and just go through the motions. See also Harry Kane at Nodge etc etc. |
this thread is a microcosm for fans not understanding basics of sport/football. He was a really talented 17 year old kid who had good games and bad games. Technically better then our own but physically weaker and not ready for a 46 game campaign.Really wasnt that bad in any games but didnt always shine which warped itself into him being anoymous (because he's from Aresnal and should be bossing it). Young players take time to grow and be season ready! particularly the smaller built ones. That's why we get all this Dozzell overrated stuff. annoying. Young players are generally potential until anything between 19-23 depending on their build etc (some late bloomers). Not all will fulfil it either and some will advance more. | |
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Maitland-Niles on 10:58 - May 10 with 4669 views | No9 |
Maitland-Niles on 21:06 - May 9 by WD19 | I thought exactly the same thing about an hour ago. Limited impact here and never gets much of a mention amongst Micks signings. Although in the interests of balance, he has looked a relative weak link tonight.... |
I recall one of the main issues on this forum at the time AMN was in a town shirt was very much the way in which he was played with some thinking the gooners might recall him | | | |
Maitland-Niles on 11:04 - May 10 with 4654 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Maitland-Niles on 10:58 - May 10 by No9 | I recall one of the main issues on this forum at the time AMN was in a town shirt was very much the way in which he was played with some thinking the gooners might recall him |
Yeah, that never happened | |
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Maitland-Niles on 11:04 - May 10 with 4658 views | SomethingBlue | He was 17 when he arrived and the only surprising thing about his tail-off in form was that people objected to it so much. Not quite sure what people expected, it was very weird. | |
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Maitland-Niles on 11:09 - May 10 with 4630 views | chicoazul |
Maitland-Niles on 22:45 - May 9 by Steve_M | He started the season really well, then the physicality of the league caught up with him. Obviously some fans just assumed that was down to him thinking he was too good for us, can't think why they might have thought that though.... [Post edited 10 May 2019 8:03]
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It's so weird! | |
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What a load of bollix (n/t) on 11:22 - May 10 with 4604 views | Dyland |
Maitland-Niles on 21:15 - May 9 by Rocky | I think some loan players from "top clubs" are a bit peeved when their managers recommend they be loaned out to lower league sides - and just go through the motions. See also Harry Kane at Nodge etc etc. |
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Maitland-Niles on 11:23 - May 10 with 4598 views | SomethingBlue |
Maitland-Niles on 21:15 - May 9 by Rocky | I think some loan players from "top clubs" are a bit peeved when their managers recommend they be loaned out to lower league sides - and just go through the motions. See also Harry Kane at Nodge etc etc. |
Why do things always have to be about lack of effort or bad attitude? Well, I do know why, it's about projection, but it's still very tiresome. That is not how the vast majority of players in that situation think, believe me. | |
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Indeed on 11:27 - May 10 with 4589 views | Dyland |
Maitland-Niles on 11:04 - May 10 by SomethingBlue | He was 17 when he arrived and the only surprising thing about his tail-off in form was that people objected to it so much. Not quite sure what people expected, it was very weird. |
The issue I have is developing other team's players per se, but I also understand (or rather don't understand) the realities of the footie business so don't really make too much a deal out of it either way. Football is unique in its tribalism, in the percentage of this sport's dedicated fans/supporters having zero clue about the actual game and business, talking in cliches and being complete divs. | |
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Indeed on 11:32 - May 10 with 4580 views | SomethingBlue |
Indeed on 11:27 - May 10 by Dyland | The issue I have is developing other team's players per se, but I also understand (or rather don't understand) the realities of the footie business so don't really make too much a deal out of it either way. Football is unique in its tribalism, in the percentage of this sport's dedicated fans/supporters having zero clue about the actual game and business, talking in cliches and being complete divs. |
It's not ideal and will only get worse while clubs like Chelsea are allowed to employ 100 footballers. I have no problem with the principle of the loan system but when it gets to the point that it quite manifestly threatens academies lower down then you have to be worried. All the other stuff casting aspersions about the players and their personalities is utter trash though. | |
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Maitland-Niles on 19:06 - May 10 with 4354 views | braveblue |
Maitland-Niles on 10:41 - May 10 by Terry_Nutkins | this thread is a microcosm for fans not understanding basics of sport/football. He was a really talented 17 year old kid who had good games and bad games. Technically better then our own but physically weaker and not ready for a 46 game campaign.Really wasnt that bad in any games but didnt always shine which warped itself into him being anoymous (because he's from Aresnal and should be bossing it). Young players take time to grow and be season ready! particularly the smaller built ones. That's why we get all this Dozzell overrated stuff. annoying. Young players are generally potential until anything between 19-23 depending on their build etc (some late bloomers). Not all will fulfil it either and some will advance more. |
Well Mick Mills totally disagrees. And he has seen it at the highest level. At 23 they should be established players if they are going to make it. | | | |
Maitland-Niles on 20:10 - May 10 with 4302 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Maitland-Niles on 19:06 - May 10 by braveblue | Well Mick Mills totally disagrees. And he has seen it at the highest level. At 23 they should be established players if they are going to make it. |
He’s wrong, see Ruben Loftus-Cheek, to give just one example off the top of my head It’s almost like football at the highest level is a bit different now to how it was in 1980. Probably why Mills completely failed as a manager | |
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Maitland-Niles on 20:21 - May 10 with 4285 views | bournemouthblue | As people say, he started well and I think MM in fairness to him got him working hard defensively. In fact he did such a job on his defensive work, Wenger started to use him as a full back on his return? | |
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Maitland-Niles on 20:28 - May 10 with 4273 views | judespiveyg |
Maitland-Niles on 20:10 - May 10 by C_HealyIsAPleasure | He’s wrong, see Ruben Loftus-Cheek, to give just one example off the top of my head It’s almost like football at the highest level is a bit different now to how it was in 1980. Probably why Mills completely failed as a manager |
I think with RLC there was always a good player there but being a Chelsea youngster had to wait for first team football and wasn't even loaned out until he was nearly 22. That loan spell at Palace was the first measure anyone could really have had, so for all anyone knew he could've been the real deal at 19 (especially with his size) | |
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Maitland-Niles on 10:03 - May 11 with 4077 views | Terry_Nutkins |
Maitland-Niles on 19:06 - May 10 by braveblue | Well Mick Mills totally disagrees. And he has seen it at the highest level. At 23 they should be established players if they are going to make it. |
I bet he doesn't disagree. You have just taken the oldest age i said an d taken that as my argument. He would be in the minority in football. It's just biology. There are loads of examples of you just look! Trippier, Winks, Linguard, RLF etc. They are not poor before it's just about being physically full season ready. Dowell is a good example for us. He was never going to be physically ready for full seasons at 18 | |
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