| Well done Remoaners 17:30 - May 22 with 6197 views | pickles110564 |
We can't bail out British Steel because of the EU, 25000 jobs lost on you |  | | |  |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:32 - May 22 with 3382 views | StokieBlue |
Fake news.
Give it a rest.
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| Well done Remoaners on 17:36 - May 22 with 3355 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:32 - May 22 by StokieBlue |
Fake news.
Give it a rest.
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What isn't fake news is that British Steel had to give the EU for £120 million worth of payments under its Emissions Trading Scheme.
Under the ETS, heavy industries which face international competition are given free allowances of carbon credits to meet the EU demands. But although the UK is bound by the ETS until December 2020, the EU has decided to stop issuing free allowances to UK firms. |  |
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| Well done Remoaners on 17:36 - May 22 with 3351 views | giant_stow |
dribble. |  |
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| Well done Remoaners on 17:37 - May 22 with 3354 views | J2BLUE |
What a stupid post. Their situation is caused by the uncertainty around Brexit.
You really do get more stupid with each day. |  |
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| Well done Remoaners on 17:37 - May 22 with 3349 views | Herbivore |
Oh pickles, bless you. You'd come out second best in a battle of wits with a door stop. |  |
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| Well done Remoaners on 17:40 - May 22 with 3324 views | Kievthegreat |
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| Well done Remoaners on 17:40 - May 22 with 3328 views | eireblue |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:36 - May 22 by GlasgowBlue |
What isn't fake news is that British Steel had to give the EU for £120 million worth of payments under its Emissions Trading Scheme.
Under the ETS, heavy industries which face international competition are given free allowances of carbon credits to meet the EU demands. But although the UK is bound by the ETS until December 2020, the EU has decided to stop issuing free allowances to UK firms. |
You really would have liked that article I posted.
“British Steel could have avoided asking UK taxpayers for a £100m rescue if it had saved permits to produce carbon that it instead decided to sell in an ill-judged bet on the EU’s emissions trading scheme.
The metal manufacturer cashed in on allowances it was granted under the Brussels scheme aimed at curbing climate change. The scheme requires industries to match each tonne of emissions with an “allowance” or permit.”
Management gamble that didn’t pay off. |  | | |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:41 - May 22 with 3320 views | StokieBlue |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:36 - May 22 by GlasgowBlue |
What isn't fake news is that British Steel had to give the EU for £120 million worth of payments under its Emissions Trading Scheme.
Under the ETS, heavy industries which face international competition are given free allowances of carbon credits to meet the EU demands. But although the UK is bound by the ETS until December 2020, the EU has decided to stop issuing free allowances to UK firms. |
Perhaps the leave side should have mentioned that to the people of Scunthorpe before they voted to leave?
It's unfortunate but this isn't the EU's fault. It's a result of what the people in that region voted for. It's literally reaping what you sow.
It's sad though with regards to the job losses.
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| Well done Remoaners on 17:47 - May 22 with 3286 views | itfcjoe |
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| Well done Remoaners on 17:53 - May 22 with 3234 views | Plums |
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| Well done Remoaners on 17:53 - May 22 with 3234 views | bluejacko |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:40 - May 22 by eireblue |
You really would have liked that article I posted.
“British Steel could have avoided asking UK taxpayers for a £100m rescue if it had saved permits to produce carbon that it instead decided to sell in an ill-judged bet on the EU’s emissions trading scheme.
The metal manufacturer cashed in on allowances it was granted under the Brussels scheme aimed at curbing climate change. The scheme requires industries to match each tonne of emissions with an “allowance” or permit.”
Management gamble that didn’t pay off. |
So no not all down to Brexit then! |  | | |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:55 - May 22 with 3220 views | Herbivore |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:53 - May 22 by bluejacko |
So no not all down to Brexit then! |
I guess if Brexit is only partly to blame then it's all fine really, isn't it? It's only contributing to fooking the country rather than 100% causing it. | |
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| Well done Remoaners on 17:58 - May 22 with 3208 views | pickles110564 |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:37 - May 22 by J2BLUE |
What a stupid post. Their situation is caused by the uncertainty around Brexit.
You really do get more stupid with each day. |
Don't you listen to the speech in the HOC today, they explained that they cannot bail out do to the EU, your the stupid one as always. | | | |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:58 - May 22 with 3204 views | pickles110564 |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:32 - May 22 by StokieBlue |
Fake news.
Give it a rest.
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It was said in the HOC today so get your facts right. | | | |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:58 - May 22 with 3198 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:36 - May 22 by GlasgowBlue |
What isn't fake news is that British Steel had to give the EU for £120 million worth of payments under its Emissions Trading Scheme.
Under the ETS, heavy industries which face international competition are given free allowances of carbon credits to meet the EU demands. But although the UK is bound by the ETS until December 2020, the EU has decided to stop issuing free allowances to UK firms. |
Could also be linked to the government sourcing 42% of its steel from abroad. |  |
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| Well done Remoaners on 17:59 - May 22 with 3194 views | J2BLUE |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:58 - May 22 by pickles110564 |
Don't you listen to the speech in the HOC today, they explained that they cannot bail out do to the EU, your the stupid one as always. |
If the problem in the first place is caused by Brexit, blaming the EU for not being able to bail them out is stupid. | |
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| Well done Remoaners on 18:02 - May 22 with 3175 views | eireblue |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:53 - May 22 by bluejacko |
So no not all down to Brexit then! |
Exactly, not down to the EU ETS scheme.
But a number of factors including management mistakes and possibly Brexit.
Business outside the UK also like certainty and will make decisions based on perception of what is the best thing to do. So if a company decides to change from UK to non-UK supplier, because of more certainty, then, yes that decision would have been as a result of the Brexit referendum, and subsequent incompetence of the elected government.
Both of which are based on the will of the people. | | | |
| Well done Remoaners on 18:03 - May 22 with 3171 views | Weekender |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:58 - May 22 by pickles110564 |
Don't you listen to the speech in the HOC today, they explained that they cannot bail out do to the EU, your the stupid one as always. |
You’re not your |  |
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| Well done Remoaners on 18:05 - May 22 with 3159 views | StokieBlue |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:58 - May 22 by pickles110564 |
It was said in the HOC today so get your facts right. |
That's an appeal to authority fallacy I'm afraid.
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| Well done Remoaners on 18:09 - May 22 with 3132 views | No9 |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:36 - May 22 by GlasgowBlue |
What isn't fake news is that British Steel had to give the EU for £120 million worth of payments under its Emissions Trading Scheme.
Under the ETS, heavy industries which face international competition are given free allowances of carbon credits to meet the EU demands. But although the UK is bound by the ETS until December 2020, the EU has decided to stop issuing free allowances to UK firms. |
& British Steel has to pay twice as much for electricity as its French counterparts.
The UK government has no sensiblse policies on industry- energy- anything | | | |
| Well done Remoaners on 18:11 - May 22 with 3127 views | bluejacko |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:55 - May 22 by Herbivore |
I guess if Brexit is only partly to blame then it's all fine really, isn't it? It's only contributing to fooking the country rather than 100% causing it. |
How can our steel industry compete against the Chinese when they produced more steel in TWO months than Scunnie has in 149 years! That is fairly scary.
It was acknowledged that Brexit was affecting future orders but in a graph shon last night they had been flatlining for a good few years. | | | |
| Well done Remoaners on 18:15 - May 22 with 3102 views | No9 |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:58 - May 22 by pickles110564 |
It was said in the HOC today so get your facts right. |
Didn't you know that MP's can tell lies in the HoC? | | | |
| Well done Remoaners on 18:25 - May 22 with 3057 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Well done Remoaners on 18:11 - May 22 by bluejacko |
How can our steel industry compete against the Chinese when they produced more steel in TWO months than Scunnie has in 149 years! That is fairly scary.
It was acknowledged that Brexit was affecting future orders but in a graph shon last night they had been flatlining for a good few years. |
In October 2016, the EU introduced anti-dumping tariffs on imported Chinese steel for a start. Of course UK producers can’t compete on quantity, but they can on innovation and quality. |  |
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| Well done Remoaners on 18:32 - May 22 with 3020 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Well done Remoaners on 17:58 - May 22 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Could also be linked to the government sourcing 42% of its steel from abroad. |
Gazzer you don't think this has any effect?
You would rather the government were able to bail it out when it got into trouble than that the government actually got its steel from there in the first place? | |
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| Well done Remoaners on 18:36 - May 22 with 2994 views | Herbivore |
| Well done Remoaners on 18:11 - May 22 by bluejacko |
How can our steel industry compete against the Chinese when they produced more steel in TWO months than Scunnie has in 149 years! That is fairly scary.
It was acknowledged that Brexit was affecting future orders but in a graph shon last night they had been flatlining for a good few years. |
They can compete on quality, or they could until Brexit screwed them. | |
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