| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? 20:40 - May 23 with 2053 views | christiand |
Interested in what many out there in TWTD world think as political topics are often popular threads. Thoughts? |  |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 07:07 - May 24 with 676 views | BloomBlue |
No that's Blair. He should be hanging from a rope given the lies he told which resulted in the death of Bristish soldiers. Plus he wasnt even the PM then he was letting Bush run the country.
Wilson wasn't much better he let the fckwit unions run the country and they destroyed Britsh industry. Even more annoying was he was a good PM until he lost interest and gave into the unions (and his secretary)
Cameron because having the EU referendum was the correct thing to do, but to run as soon as the decision went against him was criminal |  | | |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 07:11 - May 24 with 670 views | BlueBadger |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 23:44 - May 23 by Ryorry |
I joined TIG but they rapidly lost me - about as exciting & appealing as magnolia porridge ... |
I've been flirting with NHA(National Health Action) of late, it's definitey more of a pressure group than a party at present but there's more policies and attention to joined-up government than the rest. |  |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 07:16 - May 24 with 658 views | BlueBadger |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 20:41 - May 23 by SpruceMoose |
I think Cameron deserves a special mention, being the melt who kicked this all off and then ran away and hid. |
Still, at least it's achieved its primary aim of ensuring a united and strong Conservativ eParty. | |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 07:34 - May 24 with 640 views | hampstead_blue |
Gordon Brown was a clown as PM. |  |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 07:39 - May 24 with 634 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 22:49 - May 23 by Churchman |
I thinks it is a tight fight between TM and call-me-Dave. But CMD just gets the gold medal.
Even if you ignore unnecessary grinding austerity and laying into the social fabric of this country, which went way beyond what was necessary to correct Labour’s hosing of the economy up the wall, the referendum was a grotesque misjudgement. It left his successor with the problem from hell while he swanned off without a care in the world.
He had no idea what losing the referendum might mean. He did not consider it or allow it to be considered. His pre-referendum begging bowl visit to EU leaders was pathetic because not only did he have no idea how to deal with them, but he also had no idea what he was talking about. There are so many things he could and should have done differently and saying that is not the gift of hindsight. Mix arrogance and stupidity and it looks like call-me-Dave.
TM: she has tried to deal with a problem not of her making which is all that saves her from top spot. In my view she is clueless in every way. Poor judgement, devious (trying to kick the vote down the road on her wretched agreement to scare MPs into voting for it), inflexible, poor listener, micro manager, zero leadership skills, divisive, poor negotiator, poor communicator, put her rotten party before the country etc etc.
I didn’t think I’d see worse than Blair with what he did, but DC and TM have topped him. Sorry Tony, just a bronze medal for you. |
“Unnecessary austerity”
Some people have very short memories. Alistair Darling, Labour’s Chancellor at the time of the recession said that if re-elected Labour planned cuts in public spending will be "deeper and tougher" than Margaret Thatcher's in the 1980s
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/mar/25/alistair-darling-cut-deeper-mar |  |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 07:46 - May 24 with 621 views | chicoazul |
Thatcher. |  |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 07:53 - May 24 with 598 views | gordon |
The next one is going to be much, much worse. |  | | |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 07:56 - May 24 with 603 views | Churchman |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 23:47 - May 23 by Ryorry |
"He had no idea what losing the referendum might mean. He did not consider it or allow it to be considered"
Actually, he did, as Tusk repeatedly warned him about it & told him the Referendum was a terrible gamble which could have potentially catastrophic results - so in a way, he/it was even worse than you paint. [Post edited 23 May 2019 23:48]
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In that you are so right so yep, I agree, he’s even worse. Listening skills zero.
What I meant though was that he could before he went grovelling to the EU he could have explored and understood the options and consequences of leave. It would have strengthened his hand with the Tuskmeister and co and it would have provided more substance than the lies, rhetoric and fearmongering that characterised the referendum.
This is not the gift of hindsight. And his actions in this are typical of this government. No research needed, just do it, whether it’s crucifying the police to save money, slashing council budgets without bothering to work out what the outcome might be or the disgraceful Windrush scandal. |  | | |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:00 - May 24 with 595 views | chicoazul |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 07:56 - May 24 by Churchman |
In that you are so right so yep, I agree, he’s even worse. Listening skills zero.
What I meant though was that he could before he went grovelling to the EU he could have explored and understood the options and consequences of leave. It would have strengthened his hand with the Tuskmeister and co and it would have provided more substance than the lies, rhetoric and fearmongering that characterised the referendum.
This is not the gift of hindsight. And his actions in this are typical of this government. No research needed, just do it, whether it’s crucifying the police to save money, slashing council budgets without bothering to work out what the outcome might be or the disgraceful Windrush scandal. |
No Etonian PPE born to rule scumbag should ever be given the keys to the kingdom ever again. Oh hello Boris, please come in, you sometimes say long words and you wrote a few terrible books, here are the Trident codes, please continue to slowly kill the most disadvantaged people in our society.
Give Us Gove! | |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:02 - May 24 with 591 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 07:56 - May 24 by Churchman |
In that you are so right so yep, I agree, he’s even worse. Listening skills zero.
What I meant though was that he could before he went grovelling to the EU he could have explored and understood the options and consequences of leave. It would have strengthened his hand with the Tuskmeister and co and it would have provided more substance than the lies, rhetoric and fearmongering that characterised the referendum.
This is not the gift of hindsight. And his actions in this are typical of this government. No research needed, just do it, whether it’s crucifying the police to save money, slashing council budgets without bothering to work out what the outcome might be or the disgraceful Windrush scandal. |
You’re aware that the Windrush debacle wouldn’t have occurred had the previous Labour government not decided to destroy the landing cars records?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43835664 | |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:03 - May 24 with 590 views | DanTheMan |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:00 - May 24 by chicoazul |
No Etonian PPE born to rule scumbag should ever be given the keys to the kingdom ever again. Oh hello Boris, please come in, you sometimes say long words and you wrote a few terrible books, here are the Trident codes, please continue to slowly kill the most disadvantaged people in our society.
Give Us Gove! |
He's too sensible, it'll end up being bloody Boris. |  |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:04 - May 24 with 587 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:03 - May 24 by DanTheMan |
He's too sensible, it'll end up being bloody Boris. |
Worryingly it’s starting to look very likely to be Boris. | |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:06 - May 24 with 583 views | hampstead_blue |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 22:16 - May 23 by gazzer1999 |
Well the Liar Blair, will take some beating. |
I'll second you.
His track record is without challenge. No PM can stand next to him for blood spilled | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:08 - May 24 with 581 views | Churchman |
I am not saying public spending didn’t need to be reigned in after labour’s sorry ‘efforts’ and the financial crisis, but Alastair Darling was proposing a more balanced approach digging this country out of the mess it was in if memory serves me right. In my view, the tory approach was as much about ideology (seizing on the chance of their nirvana of small State etc) as economic necessity.
For the record, I thought Darling was very competent by comparison with his predecessor and successors. Shame he worked for Brown | | | |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:10 - May 24 with 577 views | chicoazul |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:06 - May 24 by hampstead_blue |
I'll second you.
His track record is without challenge. No PM can stand next to him for blood spilled |
If we are talking about the criteria for worst PM being "killed loads" then Churchill has Blair beat about a thousand times over. | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 08:16 - May 24 with 565 views | Churchman |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:02 - May 24 by GlasgowBlue |
You’re aware that the Windrush debacle wouldn’t have occurred had the previous Labour government not decided to destroy the landing cars records?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43835664 |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:16 - May 24 with 560 views | Keaneish |
She's been in an impossible situation since day one. Gordon Brown, Tony Blair, Cameron, there have been a few shockers in recent memory! |  |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:19 - May 24 with 553 views | GeoffSentence |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 20:41 - May 23 by SpruceMoose |
I think Cameron deserves a special mention, being the melt who kicked this all off and then ran away and hid. |
Cameron at least managed to get some things achieved in his time, some of it good, same sex marriage for instance, some of it he may not have wanted but at least didn't stop his Lib Dem partners from introducing - the 10K tax limit for instance.
TM on the other hand has achieved nothing, what she has tried to do she has failed on miserably and even by the standards she set herself when she became prime minister, those burning injustices, she hasn't even started on them.
By all measures TM has been an utter failure and is streets ahead for worst PM in my lifetime, |  |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:22 - May 24 with 548 views | itfcjoe |
For me she is, she has just spent her whole time trying to cling onto power and nothing more.
She hasn't engaged or got anyone on side, she and her advisers called an ill timed General Election and then ran a terrible campaign where they tried to sell her 'personality', then had to get into bed with the backwards DUP at great cost.
She has just tried to steam roll everything through with no attempt to gain consensus with anyone - she has not been able to get remainers, ERG or Labour on side at all - she has tried to appeal to everyone but has appealed to no-one.
She's a micro manager, not a head of state. |  |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:24 - May 24 with 546 views | hampstead_blue |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:10 - May 24 by chicoazul |
If we are talking about the criteria for worst PM being "killed loads" then Churchill has Blair beat about a thousand times over. |
I was waiting for Churchill's name to be mentioned. He did drop a few clangers I recall.
His war was 'legal' and pretty much saved us from the Germans.
Blair's was based on his ego and lies. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 08:39 - May 24 with 521 views | Churchman |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:02 - May 24 by GlasgowBlue |
You’re aware that the Windrush debacle wouldn’t have occurred had the previous Labour government not decided to destroy the landing cars records?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43835664 |
I did and I think the labour governments were dreadful in so many ways. But that doesn’t detract from how the tories ‘handled’ it, in my view. The epic failings of successive governments throughout so much of my lifetime suggests we need parliamentary reform! [Post edited 24 May 2019 9:13]
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:57 - May 24 with 486 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:02 - May 24 by GlasgowBlue |
You’re aware that the Windrush debacle wouldn’t have occurred had the previous Labour government not decided to destroy the landing cars records?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43835664 |
Presumably because they had no intentions of revolking the rights to remain of people who'd been contributing to society and bringing up British families for decades? |  |
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| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 08:59 - May 24 with 487 views | ShropshireBluenago09 |
| Will Teresa May go down as the worst PM in the country’s political history? on 20:41 - May 23 by SpruceMoose |
I think Cameron deserves a special mention, being the melt who kicked this all off and then ran away and hid. |
Cameron did his best to try and get some concessions from the EU, but typical EU did not bend for us, hence the referendum. |  |
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