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EU elections not really proportional representation. 11:00 - May 27 with 839 viewsPinewoodblue

Malta, Luxembourg, Cyprus, Estonia & Latvia with a combined population of just over 5m elected 32 MEPs.

Ireland with less than 5m population elected 11 MEPs

London with a population in excess of 8m elected just 6 to the European parliament.


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EU elections not really proportional representation. on 11:03 - May 27 with 822 viewsWeWereZombies

Careful, if you are suggesting that national boundaries should be respected less you may just get criticised for advocating loss of sovereignty.

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EU elections not really proportional representation. on 11:18 - May 27 with 780 viewsPinewoodblue

EU elections not really proportional representation. on 11:03 - May 27 by WeWereZombies

Careful, if you are suggesting that national boundaries should be respected less you may just get criticised for advocating loss of sovereignty.


To misquote George Orwell. All countries are equal but some are more equal than others.

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EU elections not really proportional representation. on 11:50 - May 27 with 742 viewsWeWereZombies

EU elections not really proportional representation. on 11:18 - May 27 by Pinewoodblue

To misquote George Orwell. All countries are equal but some are more equal than others.


Which is what makes the European Union so imperfect but so interesting and useful. It's all a bit 'cometh the hour, cometh the man' as the migrant crisis has often brought out but in less than wonderful situations. All the drownings in the Mediterranean, refugees charging across Hungarian fields only to get tripped up (even though the existential threat of 'loss of culture' is likely to affect Germany), Sangatte all those years ago. But at least it gives the opportunity of a balanced response. Perhaps Orwell got it wrong and that the mechanics of chance and the relative positions of talents, strengths and weakness will always confound attempts at equality. I maintain that co-operation and organisation will always serve to mitigate the worst inequalities though.

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EU elections not really proportional representation. on 12:03 - May 27 with 721 viewsClapham_Junction

It seems there is a minimum number of seats a country has (no country has fewer than 6), which makes the very small countries over-represented. If each country had exactly their share of seats, Malta would be eligible for less than one.

We have a similar thing for Westminster elections - protected island constituencies that are allowed to be smaller than others.
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EU elections not really proportional representation. on 12:54 - May 27 with 672 viewsfactual_blue

It is 'degressively proportional'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apportionment_in_the_European_Parliament

There are advantages and disadvantages to this method, just as there are to any other method.

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EU elections not really proportional representation. on 13:17 - May 27 with 631 viewseireblue

EU elections not really proportional representation. on 12:54 - May 27 by factual_blue

It is 'degressively proportional'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apportionment_in_the_European_Parliament

There are advantages and disadvantages to this method, just as there are to any other method.


I believe this sort of thing was pointed out by an over-excited and rather emotional actor of one political persuasion to a much calmer politician with a different political outlook on one of those popular TV debating shows recently.
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EU elections not really proportional representation. on 13:24 - May 27 with 613 viewsfactual_blue

EU elections not really proportional representation. on 13:17 - May 27 by eireblue

I believe this sort of thing was pointed out by an over-excited and rather emotional actor of one political persuasion to a much calmer politician with a different political outlook on one of those popular TV debating shows recently.


Was he a 'tired and emotional' actor?

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EU elections not really proportional representation. on 16:19 - May 27 with 537 viewsFtnfwest

We'd have had too much power under genuine PR
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