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It's coming again, boys and girls 15:34 - May 29 with 5166 viewsDarth_Koont

Be interesting to see if the hard-core Brexiteers care more about the UK than Brexit itself. They seem to be doing a fantastic job of opening a path forward for Indyref2.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-48435198

I suspect this time around there will be a bit more understanding for the desire to leave Westminster's toxic sphere.
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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:35 - May 29 with 1929 viewsJ2BLUE

I hope you succeed.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:36 - May 29 with 1932 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

...but you cant have a second vote..... on anything.

Looking forward to the hard border though if Scotland get back into the EU!!

To be fair, if Sturgeon wants to succeed, she needs to open the vote up to the English as well.
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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:38 - May 29 with 1918 viewsDarth_Koont

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:36 - May 29 by Marshalls_Mullet

...but you cant have a second vote..... on anything.

Looking forward to the hard border though if Scotland get back into the EU!!

To be fair, if Sturgeon wants to succeed, she needs to open the vote up to the English as well.
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That would mean a hard deal Brexit for the UK. Again, a good reason to jump ship rather than stay and get the rough end of a bad deal.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:38 - May 29 with 1914 viewsflimflam

Can we vote on Scotland leaving as I can guess what the result will be.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:40 - May 29 with 1891 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:38 - May 29 by Darth_Koont

That would mean a hard deal Brexit for the UK. Again, a good reason to jump ship rather than stay and get the rough end of a bad deal.


I'm not too fussed about either to be fair.

I'd rather remain in the EU, but that's unlikely.

Not fussed if the Scottish want to leave the UK.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:40 - May 29 with 1889 viewsDarth_Koont

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:38 - May 29 by flimflam

Can we vote on Scotland leaving as I can guess what the result will be.


I think you lot are proving you can't vote on anything.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:36 - May 29 by Marshalls_Mullet

...but you cant have a second vote..... on anything.

Looking forward to the hard border though if Scotland get back into the EU!!

To be fair, if Sturgeon wants to succeed, she needs to open the vote up to the English as well.
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I bet Sturgeon wouldn't be so bothered about regions in Scotland being taken out of the union against their will if she got a 52-48 vote.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:41 - May 29 with 1879 viewsflimflam

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:40 - May 29 by Darth_Koont

I think you lot are proving you can't vote on anything.


Pretty much nailed that one

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:41 - May 29 with 1883 viewsSteve_M

If only you could see the overlap in attitude and approach between Scottish and English nationalism.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:43 - May 29 with 1859 viewsDarth_Koont

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:40 - May 29 by Marshalls_Mullet

I'm not too fussed about either to be fair.

I'd rather remain in the EU, but that's unlikely.

Not fussed if the Scottish want to leave the UK.


Well, I am fussed. It'll be a bittersweet day if Scotland leave the UK. And proof how badly run the UK has been — to the detriment of millions of people still left behind in England, wales and Northern Ireland.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:43 - May 29 with 1848 viewshomer_123

Was in Scotland the other week at a clients (manufacturing) and the topic of Brexit and Indy came up - in short, was pretty much a 50/50 split between those wanting independance and those that didn't - feelings seemed to run as strong on either side as they are with Remain and Leave!

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:45 - May 29 with 1839 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:43 - May 29 by Darth_Koont

Well, I am fussed. It'll be a bittersweet day if Scotland leave the UK. And proof how badly run the UK has been — to the detriment of millions of people still left behind in England, wales and Northern Ireland.


'Left behind'. Nice try. ;-)

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:45 - May 29 with 1835 viewsDarth_Koont

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:41 - May 29 by Steve_M

If only you could see the overlap in attitude and approach between Scottish and English nationalism.


What are you basing that opinion on?

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:46 - May 29 with 1825 viewsflimflam

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:43 - May 29 by Darth_Koont

Well, I am fussed. It'll be a bittersweet day if Scotland leave the UK. And proof how badly run the UK has been — to the detriment of millions of people still left behind in England, wales and Northern Ireland.


Do you think it is a given that you would win this time?

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:47 - May 29 with 1820 viewsDarth_Koont

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:45 - May 29 by Marshalls_Mullet

'Left behind'. Nice try. ;-)


It's not a dig as such. There are already many people today (regions and sections of the population) who have been left behind.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:49 - May 29 with 1809 viewsSwansea_Blue

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:41 - May 29 by Steve_M

If only you could see the overlap in attitude and approach between Scottish and English nationalism.


Very different causes though. The provinces have a genuine reason to feel aggrieved. The English don't, so make reasons up.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:50 - May 29 with 1800 viewsDarth_Koont

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:46 - May 29 by flimflam

Do you think it is a given that you would win this time?


No. I think the last few years have made that a lot more likely though.

If the answer for a lot of people is Farage and a no deal Brexit, then you know you're in the wrong place.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:52 - May 29 with 1787 viewsJ2BLUE

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:49 - May 29 by Swansea_Blue

Very different causes though. The provinces have a genuine reason to feel aggrieved. The English don't, so make reasons up.


Independence for England!

Perhaps we could feel aggrieved at Scotland getting more money per head than people in England?

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:54 - May 29 with 1775 viewsDarth_Koont

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:49 - May 29 by Swansea_Blue

Very different causes though. The provinces have a genuine reason to feel aggrieved. The English don't, so make reasons up.


Indeed. The idea of being a Scottish nationalist on ethnic/cultural grounds is a joke even north of the border.

It's by being an utterly mediocre nation that we know we should aim higher.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:56 - May 29 with 1762 viewsGeoffSentence

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:52 - May 29 by J2BLUE

Independence for England!

Perhaps we could feel aggrieved at Scotland getting more money per head than people in England?


And being over-represented in parliament compared to the English.

They dont know when they are on to a good thing those perfidious scotch.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:56 - May 29 with 1760 viewsOldsmoker

If Scotland leave then the Tories will have a majority in the HOC.
Please don't go.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:58 - May 29 with 1741 viewsDarth_Koont

It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:56 - May 29 by Oldsmoker

If Scotland leave then the Tories will have a majority in the HOC.
Please don't go.


That might work in your favour. Maybe with a majority, they'll calm down and stop fighting for the right-wing vote (or indeed trying to appease the extremists in their own party)?

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 16:00 - May 29 with 1729 viewsWD19

No it isn't.

Odds are Nicola will arrange a show vote without permission, but it will be a pointless, non-binding protest vote at the expense of Scottish taxpayers.
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It's coming again, boys and girls on 15:58 - May 29 by Darth_Koont

That might work in your favour. Maybe with a majority, they'll calm down and stop fighting for the right-wing vote (or indeed trying to appease the extremists in their own party)?


Yeah, instead they'll have free reign to privatise the sh*t out of most things and cut to the bone the rest.

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It's coming again, boys and girls on 16:04 - May 29 with 1706 viewsJ2BLUE

It's coming again, boys and girls on 16:00 - May 29 by WD19

No it isn't.

Odds are Nicola will arrange a show vote without permission, but it will be a pointless, non-binding protest vote at the expense of Scottish taxpayers.


What if she lost that vote? I'm guessing the counters would be SNP members.

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