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Tory Leadership 16:52 - Jun 2 with 1694 viewsOldsmoker

I've just read an article in the independent discussing the runners and riders in the tory leadership contest. The article was posted an hour ago and names the 12 contenders as enough for a cricket team. I went back to the indy's main page and the top story - posted 27 mins ago - was the entry of Sam Gyimah (me neither) as the 13th candidate.
All this talk of "uniting the party" seems to be bogus if there are that many candidates.
However, it appears that 5 are genuine contenders and the other 8 are just in it to raise their profile. What a bunch of willy wavers.

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Tory Leadership on 16:59 - Jun 2 with 1672 viewsGuthrum

The ones which concern me are those pledging to wildly slash tax with no real explanation of how they'd then cover the shortfall. Pure voter bribery without a care for the proper running of the country.

Or an implicit threat of cuts to services which would make Austerity look like child's play.

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Tory Leadership on 17:15 - Jun 2 with 1629 viewsOldsmoker

Tory Leadership on 16:59 - Jun 2 by Guthrum

The ones which concern me are those pledging to wildly slash tax with no real explanation of how they'd then cover the shortfall. Pure voter bribery without a care for the proper running of the country.

Or an implicit threat of cuts to services which would make Austerity look like child's play.


Well, the ones who scare* me are those wanting a no deal Brexit.
They offer no plan on how to do it - just like your observation on tax promises.
They don't seem to realise that there is no longer any mileage in the saying "Trust me - I'm a politician - I know what I'm doing".

* 'concern' is a good word but doesn't cover it for me whereas 'scare' does.

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Tory Leadership on 17:20 - Jun 2 with 1609 viewsBlueBadger

Tory Leadership on 17:15 - Jun 2 by Oldsmoker

Well, the ones who scare* me are those wanting a no deal Brexit.
They offer no plan on how to do it - just like your observation on tax promises.
They don't seem to realise that there is no longer any mileage in the saying "Trust me - I'm a politician - I know what I'm doing".

* 'concern' is a good word but doesn't cover it for me whereas 'scare' does.


Let's be fair, they all basically look like the cast of Game of Thrones.

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Tory Leadership on 17:20 - Jun 2 with 1610 viewsGuthrum

Tory Leadership on 17:15 - Jun 2 by Oldsmoker

Well, the ones who scare* me are those wanting a no deal Brexit.
They offer no plan on how to do it - just like your observation on tax promises.
They don't seem to realise that there is no longer any mileage in the saying "Trust me - I'm a politician - I know what I'm doing".

* 'concern' is a good word but doesn't cover it for me whereas 'scare' does.


When they talk of a 'managed no deal Brexit', they are forgetting (or ignoring) the fact that Parliament has already blocked the government from making preparations for that eventuality. Might make things a little tricky.

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Tory Leadership on 17:22 - Jun 2 with 1603 viewsBlueBadger

Tory Leadership on 17:20 - Jun 2 by Guthrum

When they talk of a 'managed no deal Brexit', they are forgetting (or ignoring) the fact that Parliament has already blocked the government from making preparations for that eventuality. Might make things a little tricky.


We've seen already ad infinitum that facts and the law are of no interest to a lot of these people.

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Tory Leadership on 17:24 - Jun 2 with 1603 viewsGuthrum

Tory Leadership on 17:20 - Jun 2 by BlueBadger

Let's be fair, they all basically look like the cast of Game of Thrones.


I'd say more Monty Python, given the array of caricatures and grotesques with batty ideas.

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Tory Leadership on 17:25 - Jun 2 with 1595 viewsBlueBadger

Tory Leadership on 17:24 - Jun 2 by Guthrum

I'd say more Monty Python, given the array of caricatures and grotesques with batty ideas.


A good point. At least some of those GoT villains have a certain degree of competence and grasp on realpolitik.
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Tory Leadership on 17:33 - Jun 2 with 1578 viewsPinewoodblue

Tory Leadership on 17:25 - Jun 2 by BlueBadger

A good point. At least some of those GoT villains have a certain degree of competence and grasp on realpolitik.
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Have a feeling the casualty rate will be as high as GoT

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Tory Leadership on 17:34 - Jun 2 with 1579 viewsBlueBadger

Tory Leadership on 17:33 - Jun 2 by Pinewoodblue

Have a feeling the casualty rate will be as high as GoT


I'm sure we all have our fingers crossed.

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Tory Leadership on 17:35 - Jun 2 with 1575 viewsOldsmoker

Tory Leadership on 17:20 - Jun 2 by Guthrum

When they talk of a 'managed no deal Brexit', they are forgetting (or ignoring) the fact that Parliament has already blocked the government from making preparations for that eventuality. Might make things a little tricky.


Parliament blocked the May goverments no-deal.
This is completely different because it's their no-deal.
Same turd - different wrapper.

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Tory Leadership on 17:44 - Jun 2 with 1551 viewsHerbivore

What's the collective noun for Tory leadership contenders? I'm going to go with 'shower'. A shower of Tory leadership contenders.

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Tory Leadership on 17:44 - Jun 2 with 1552 viewsfactual_blue

Tory Leadership on 17:24 - Jun 2 by Guthrum

I'd say more Monty Python, given the array of caricatures and grotesques with batty ideas.


Here is how the tory leadership process works, as borrowed from the bullingdon club


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Tory Leadership on 17:49 - Jun 2 with 1541 viewsOldsmoker

Tory Leadership on 17:44 - Jun 2 by factual_blue

Here is how the tory leadership process works, as borrowed from the bullingdon club



The leadership contest should be a version of Running Man.
Last man/woman gets No 10.
The rest of them recylced for dog food.

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Tory Leadership on 17:53 - Jun 2 with 1525 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Tory Leadership on 17:35 - Jun 2 by Oldsmoker

Parliament blocked the May goverments no-deal.
This is completely different because it's their no-deal.
Same turd - different wrapper.


May thought that if she kept bringing her deal back to Parliament it would eventually cave in to it.

They either think they can do the same or just force it through without the agreement of Parliament.

Either they are as deluded as May or they are dangerous megalomaniac dictators in waiting.

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Tory Leadership on 17:44 - Jun 2 by Herbivore

What's the collective noun for Tory leadership contenders? I'm going to go with 'shower'. A shower of Tory leadership contenders.


I've never met a tory leadership contender.

But I trod in some once.

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Tory Leadership on 17:59 - Jun 2 with 1523 viewsfactual_blue

Tory Leadership on 17:33 - Jun 2 by Pinewoodblue

Have a feeling the casualty rate will be as high as GoT


Are we going to see Andrea Deadweight and Esher McVitie half-naked?

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Tory Leadership on 18:04 - Jun 2 with 1516 viewsOldsmoker

Tory Leadership on 17:53 - Jun 2 by Nthsuffolkblue

May thought that if she kept bringing her deal back to Parliament it would eventually cave in to it.

They either think they can do the same or just force it through without the agreement of Parliament.

Either they are as deluded as May or they are dangerous megalomaniac dictators in waiting.


The shortest odds are on "dangerous megalomaniac dictators in waiting".

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Tory Leadership on 17:49 - Jun 2 by Oldsmoker

The leadership contest should be a version of Running Man.
Last man/woman gets No 10.
The rest of them recylced for dog food.


And then the door of Number Ten is opened by a flunkey who shoots the 'winner'.

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Tory Leadership on 19:02 - Jun 2 with 1455 viewsGlasgowBlue

Tory Leadership on 17:20 - Jun 2 by BlueBadger

Let's be fair, they all basically look like the cast of Game of Thrones.


Boris - Robert Baratheon
Gove - Littlefinger
Leadsom - Cersei
Raab - Viserys Targaryen


Anyone else add at will as I can't be arsed.

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Tory Leadership on 19:25 - Jun 2 with 1424 viewsHerbivore

Tory Leadership on 19:02 - Jun 2 by GlasgowBlue

Boris - Robert Baratheon
Gove - Littlefinger
Leadsom - Cersei
Raab - Viserys Targaryen


Anyone else add at will as I can't be arsed.


Dominic Raab - Hodor.

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Tory Leadership on 22:19 - Jun 2 with 1251 viewsGlasgowBlue

Tory Leadership on 19:25 - Jun 2 by Herbivore

Dominic Raab - Hodor.


Rory Stewart - Tyrion Lannister
Penny Mourdaunt - Yara Greyjoy
Steve Baker - Alliser Thorne
Sir Graham Brady - Mace Tyrell
James Cleverly - Bronn
Matt Hancock - Podrick
Jeremy Hunt - Jaime Lannister
Sajid Javid - Varys
Esther McVey - Melisandre (The Red Woman)

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Tory Leadership on 07:29 - Jun 3 with 1155 viewsChurchman

Tory Leadership on 17:20 - Jun 2 by Guthrum

When they talk of a 'managed no deal Brexit', they are forgetting (or ignoring) the fact that Parliament has already blocked the government from making preparations for that eventuality. Might make things a little tricky.


There is no such thing as ‘managed no deal’. It is a phrase used to make the ending of many of our current trading arrangements and the shredding of large chunks of our economy with loss of people’s livelihoods and potentially worse sound palatable and sensible.

It’s like the phrase used a lot in government ‘sub-optimal’. In other words shi&£. So ITFC had a sub-optimal season. That sounds far nicer than relegated by a country mile with one of the worst teams in its professional history.
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