England have been poor throughout 21:20 - Jun 6 with 2490 views | sparks | Barely kept the ball outside of their own defensive third. Chased shadows. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 21:25 - Jun 6 with 2473 views | Trequartista | They've been outplayed by the Dutch. The midfield are offering absolutely no options for the defence to pass to. Walker is having an absolute nightmare. But this is a good England team, some players are missing, some players have gone off the boil after such a long break from the last day of the season, and there is still the feeling that this is a glorified friendly. Henderson coming on I think will help matters. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 21:28 - Jun 6 with 2455 views | christiand | The Dutch do look the better side. It does remind me of last year’s World Cup, our performances did flatter to deceive at times, but we managed to get the results. Fingers crossed we can find a winner here!! 🤞🻠| |
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England have been poor throughout on 21:30 - Jun 6 with 2442 views | vapour_trail | 2-1 then. VAR pending. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 21:31 - Jun 6 with 2438 views | vapour_trail |
England have been poor throughout on 21:30 - Jun 6 by vapour_trail | 2-1 then. VAR pending. |
As you were | |
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England have been poor throughout on 21:34 - Jun 6 with 2414 views | SpruceMoose |
England have been poor throughout on 21:31 - Jun 6 by vapour_trail | As you were |
That was some BS right there | |
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England have been poor throughout on 21:38 - Jun 6 with 2399 views | vapour_trail |
England have been poor throughout on 21:34 - Jun 6 by SpruceMoose | That was some BS right there |
It would appear I called that one incorrectly. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 21:39 - Jun 6 with 2390 views | sparks |
England have been poor throughout on 21:38 - Jun 6 by vapour_trail | It would appear I called that one incorrectly. |
Only 1 replay. Couldnt say it as offside... | |
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England have been poor throughout on 21:40 - Jun 6 with 2380 views | vapour_trail |
England have been poor throughout on 21:39 - Jun 6 by sparks | Only 1 replay. Couldnt say it as offside... |
I’m cooking and on the radio so can’t really comment. They agreed though. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 21:43 - Jun 6 with 2360 views | pointofblue |
England have been poor throughout on 21:39 - Jun 6 by sparks | Only 1 replay. Couldnt say it as offside... |
Think it was... just. We seem to have improved since their equaliser; have had more of a foot in the game. Think Southgate made a mistake resting the Champions League players. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 21:49 - Jun 6 with 2311 views | vilanovablue | Although the Dutch for all their possession have been pretty toothless. Lots of playing it in front of England. 2 chances which any of our strikers would have scored gone begging. A goal from a CB says it all for me... Once the Dutch equalised England made a much better fist of it and have been a little unlucky. Happy to be shot down in flames but its what I'm watching. | | | |
England have been poor throughout on 21:53 - Jun 6 with 2289 views | christiand |
England have been poor throughout on 21:49 - Jun 6 by vilanovablue | Although the Dutch for all their possession have been pretty toothless. Lots of playing it in front of England. 2 chances which any of our strikers would have scored gone begging. A goal from a CB says it all for me... Once the Dutch equalised England made a much better fist of it and have been a little unlucky. Happy to be shot down in flames but its what I'm watching. |
Certainly see your angle there, to me the Dutch look a more complete team unit without being overly threatening. We just look a little disjointed. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 22:05 - Jun 6 with 2209 views | MrTown | Absolutely right. Could not begrudge a loss here, deserved nothing more. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 22:16 - Jun 6 with 2177 views | sparks |
England have been poor throughout on 22:05 - Jun 6 by MrTown | Absolutely right. Could not begrudge a loss here, deserved nothing more. |
Indeed. The complete inability to hold the ball in the middle or to win it is pretty stark. It is not disguised by trying desperately, and poorly, to play out from the back either. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 22:18 - Jun 6 with 2163 views | pointofblue |
England have been poor throughout on 22:16 - Jun 6 by sparks | Indeed. The complete inability to hold the ball in the middle or to win it is pretty stark. It is not disguised by trying desperately, and poorly, to play out from the back either. |
Why did Southgate decide to drop the seven who played in Madrid? Think that's cost us more than anything - we've almost treated today like a friendly. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 22:21 - Jun 6 with 2134 views | sparks |
England have been poor throughout on 22:18 - Jun 6 by pointofblue | Why did Southgate decide to drop the seven who played in Madrid? Think that's cost us more than anything - we've almost treated today like a friendly. |
Who do you say deserved to start? Injured and ineffective Kane? Henderson, perhaps. Ali has had a lousy season. Who else? | |
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England have been poor throughout on 22:22 - Jun 6 with 2125 views | SpruceMoose | On another note, can anyone else not see the point of a third place game? | |
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England have been poor throughout on 22:23 - Jun 6 with 2126 views | vilanovablue |
England have been poor throughout on 21:53 - Jun 6 by christiand | Certainly see your angle there, to me the Dutch look a more complete team unit without being overly threatening. We just look a little disjointed. |
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England have been poor throughout on 22:26 - Jun 6 with 2112 views | pointofblue |
England have been poor throughout on 22:21 - Jun 6 by sparks | Who do you say deserved to start? Injured and ineffective Kane? Henderson, perhaps. Ali has had a lousy season. Who else? |
Alexander-Arnold at right back ahead of Walker. Henderson as you say and probably Gomez but that's most definitely after the event; I would have picked Stones and Maguire heading into the match. Even a struggling Alli would be better than Delph who can't even play a league match. Outside of the Champions League players not sure why Lingard didn't start? | |
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England have been poor throughout on 22:27 - Jun 6 with 2105 views | sparks |
England have been poor throughout on 22:26 - Jun 6 by pointofblue | Alexander-Arnold at right back ahead of Walker. Henderson as you say and probably Gomez but that's most definitely after the event; I would have picked Stones and Maguire heading into the match. Even a struggling Alli would be better than Delph who can't even play a league match. Outside of the Champions League players not sure why Lingard didn't start? |
A three in midfield involving Lingard and Berkley would be painfully lightweight. Rice was invisible despite his plaudits. Alex Arnold- perhaps. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 22:58 - Jun 6 with 2030 views | pointofblue |
England have been poor throughout on 22:27 - Jun 6 by sparks | A three in midfield involving Lingard and Berkley would be painfully lightweight. Rice was invisible despite his plaudits. Alex Arnold- perhaps. |
Lingard usually plays as one of the front three doesn’t he, with Kane and Sterling? Dier, Henderson and Alli making up the middle three with the back four comprising of Alexander-Arnold, Stones, Maguire and Shaw. Laying it out like that shows how many players we were missing tonight - only three of the ten noted started. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 23:05 - Jun 6 with 2017 views | sparks |
England have been poor throughout on 22:58 - Jun 6 by pointofblue | Lingard usually plays as one of the front three doesn’t he, with Kane and Sterling? Dier, Henderson and Alli making up the middle three with the back four comprising of Alexander-Arnold, Stones, Maguire and Shaw. Laying it out like that shows how many players we were missing tonight - only three of the ten noted started. |
Ali has been poor this season. Dier is cumbersome and not as good as Rice- who was poor. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 23:47 - Jun 6 with 1954 views | Nthsuffolkblue | Poor decision making compounded by lack of options in midfield. Often comes as a result of tiredness but feel the defence and midfield lacked enough quality to do what was being asked well enough as well. A game too many but this England side are a lot better than I expected them to be before the last World Cup. Southgate has done a great job with them. It says a lot that we are disappointed to be losing in extra time to a Dutch side that we gifted the goals to and had a close VAR decision to thank for not having won. | |
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England have been poor throughout on 00:24 - Jun 7 with 1946 views | Swansea_Blue |
England have been poor throughout on 23:47 - Jun 6 by Nthsuffolkblue | Poor decision making compounded by lack of options in midfield. Often comes as a result of tiredness but feel the defence and midfield lacked enough quality to do what was being asked well enough as well. A game too many but this England side are a lot better than I expected them to be before the last World Cup. Southgate has done a great job with them. It says a lot that we are disappointed to be losing in extra time to a Dutch side that we gifted the goals to and had a close VAR decision to thank for not having won. |
Plus we're nowhere near as good as people think we are. Seriously, how many of this squad are up to the level of past England players. Gerard, Beckham, G. Neville, Rooney, Scholes, Terry, Owen, Seaman, Shearer, Pearce, Gascoigne, Lineker, Robson, Hoddle, Shilts, etc.... Answer = not many. We've a good bunch who did really well together in the age group teams ,but few have gone on to be really world class. Kane is absolute quality at his best. Sterling has fantastic domestic seasons but struggles to translate that. Where are the real characters and 'generals' who make a difference on international duty? | |
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