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Is it just me? 19:51 - Jun 10 with 11978 viewsSpruceMoose

Or does anyone else find the thought of Boris Johnson being our PM, something we can never erase from our history books, utterly and thoroughly depressing?

I mean, ffs, what's the point of anything if that sh!tstain is our representative?

Britain's fall to complete laughing stock will be complete should this come to pass.

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Is it just me? on 08:42 - Jun 11 with 771 viewsflimflam

Just think why we may be getting a new PM?

If all the parties had not been such useless twerps for the last 3 years then we would not be where we are today.
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Is it just me? on 08:49 - Jun 11 with 763 viewsSteve_M

Is it just me? on 20:06 - Jun 10 by SpruceMoose

Well yes. Now you've made me feel even worse. But I think such is my hatred for Johnson it would bother me to see him get what he wants more than the other candidates.


Johnson's sheer vanity and obvious desire to be PM purely for it's own sake means that his failure to do so will be enjoyable but the alternatives are all crap. And that obviously includes Corbyn who struggles to show any opposition to even this sh1tshow of a government.

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Is it just me? on 08:51 - Jun 11 with 761 viewsDarth_Koont

Is it just me? on 19:57 - Jun 10 by slump

All all gone to sh!t since 24 June 2016.

Literally nothing would surprise me now.


It's been sh!t for a lot longer than that.

Brexit has served a certain purpose in that regard. By being an inescapably real situation instead of the usual posturing with words, it's exposed our Westminster politicians, the system and a self-interested media that keep fuelling it for what they are. Basically, they're not fit for purpose.

The question is what do we do about that instead of this being exploited by populist chancers like Farage. In Scotland, the truth has been inescapable for longer and has resulted in the SNP. So perhaps this surge of support to the LibDems can last a bit longer and stem a slide to the silly right-wing?
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Is it just me? on 09:00 - Jun 11 with 735 viewsHerbivore

Is it just me? on 08:42 - Jun 11 by flimflam

Just think why we may be getting a new PM?

If all the parties had not been such useless twerps for the last 3 years then we would not be where we are today.


What should they have done?

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Is it just me? on 09:03 - Jun 11 with 730 viewsflimflam

Is it just me? on 09:00 - Jun 11 by Herbivore

What should they have done?


Implemented Brexit for a start and then BJ would not be anywhere near being PM.
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Is it just me? on 09:05 - Jun 11 with 722 viewsHerbivore

Is it just me? on 09:03 - Jun 11 by flimflam

Implemented Brexit for a start and then BJ would not be anywhere near being PM.


How should they have implemented Brexit? You make it sound like it's straightforward.

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Is it just me? on 09:12 - Jun 11 with 707 viewsflimflam

Is it just me? on 09:05 - Jun 11 by Herbivore

How should they have implemented Brexit? You make it sound like it's straightforward.


I guess we will see how simple it can be in October.
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Is it just me? on 09:14 - Jun 11 with 702 viewsRadlett_blue

It's depressing, but nowhere near as frightening as the prospect of Corbyn as PM.
The next Tory leader is going to be toast anyway unless they can deliver an acceptable form of Brexit, which is impossible.
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Is it just me? on 09:19 - Jun 11 with 700 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Saw this little gem during last nights Thatcher documentary..

....let's not pretend 'populism' is new.....

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Is it just me? on 09:31 - Jun 11 with 680 viewsBlueBadger

Is it just me? on 09:12 - Jun 11 by flimflam

I guess we will see how simple it can be in October.


So, the last three years haven't convinced you that it might be a tad more complicated than it was sold?

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Is it just me? on 09:38 - Jun 11 with 677 viewsBlueBoots

Is it just me? on 08:04 - Jun 11 by BanksterDebtSlave

Too late they've already ridden...Thatcher, Reagan, Brezhnev and Li.


Nah - world didn't end then; those 4 had unpleasant ideas, the new 4 have deranged ideas...

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Is it just me? on 09:41 - Jun 11 with 674 viewsMrTown

Who cares, we’ve got James Norwood.
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Is it just me? on 09:43 - Jun 11 with 669 viewsflimflam

Is it just me? on 09:31 - Jun 11 by BlueBadger

So, the last three years haven't convinced you that it might be a tad more complicated than it was sold?


Like I said we will see when we actually go and negotiate with a backbone.

They have said no more negotiations so that leaves only one option.
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Is it just me? on 09:44 - Jun 11 with 666 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Is it just me? on 09:38 - Jun 11 by BlueBoots

Nah - world didn't end then; those 4 had unpleasant ideas, the new 4 have deranged ideas...

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/10/north-korean-general-executed-thrown-piranha-fill


Like the Korean general it was the start of a long slow death!

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Is it just me? on 09:51 - Jun 11 with 654 viewsblueislander

Is it just me? on 09:43 - Jun 11 by flimflam

Like I said we will see when we actually go and negotiate with a backbone.

They have said no more negotiations so that leaves only one option.


If you think that the EU are going to roll over when faced with Boris’s idle and fatuous threats then I think you are in for a nasty surprise. What is it that makes you think they will change the agreement that has already been made?
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Is it just me? on 09:57 - Jun 11 with 639 viewsflimflam

Is it just me? on 09:51 - Jun 11 by blueislander

If you think that the EU are going to roll over when faced with Boris’s idle and fatuous threats then I think you are in for a nasty surprise. What is it that makes you think they will change the agreement that has already been made?


They wont. Which leaves just the one option.
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Is it just me? on 09:57 - Jun 11 with 640 viewsSteve_M

Is it just me? on 09:51 - Jun 11 by blueislander

If you think that the EU are going to roll over when faced with Boris’s idle and fatuous threats then I think you are in for a nasty surprise. What is it that makes you think they will change the agreement that has already been made?


The problem is that too many in the UK don't understand the relative strengths of the EU compared to this country. As evidenced by the post your replied to.

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Is it just me? on 10:08 - Jun 11 with 617 viewschiddley

And you believe this man is going to be top of the pile?
It doesn't matter who gets voted in the government always win.

chill.

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Is it just me? on 10:47 - Jun 11 with 575 viewsBrixtonBlue

Is it just me? on 07:04 - Jun 11 by jimmyvet

If it’s a choice between Boris and JC I would vote for Boris every time. If however the opposition had a rationale centrist none Marxist then at a GE I would be very happy to vote for them. But we don’t we are stuck with current Tories or 70 something bloke who shouts at rallies but doesn’t do a lot else.


What else is he supposed to do when he's not in power?

You're a symptom of what's wrong in this country - people voting for personalities rather than policies.

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Is it just me? on 11:02 - Jun 11 with 546 viewsitfcjoe

Is it just me? on 10:47 - Jun 11 by BrixtonBlue

What else is he supposed to do when he's not in power?

You're a symptom of what's wrong in this country - people voting for personalities rather than policies.


You do realise many people disagree with his policies too, and his personality his intertwined with that.

The poster has said if Labour was more centrist he'd vote for them, he clearly doesn't like Corbyn's polciies

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Is it just me? on 11:03 - Jun 11 with 539 viewsDarth_Koont

Is it just me? on 10:47 - Jun 11 by BrixtonBlue

What else is he supposed to do when he's not in power?

You're a symptom of what's wrong in this country - people voting for personalities rather than policies.


Indeed.

The idea that Boris or indeed any of the other contenders leading the Conservatives is what the UK now needs is frankly insanity. Their record domestically and over Brexit is shocking, and now they look like doubling down.

Objectively we need to reappraise and rebalance the social conditions in this country. Whatever one thinks about Corbyn as a leader, if it's a choice between Red and Blue then there's only one reasonable choice.
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Is it just me? on 11:11 - Jun 11 with 521 viewsitfcjoe

Is it just me? on 11:03 - Jun 11 by Darth_Koont

Indeed.

The idea that Boris or indeed any of the other contenders leading the Conservatives is what the UK now needs is frankly insanity. Their record domestically and over Brexit is shocking, and now they look like doubling down.

Objectively we need to reappraise and rebalance the social conditions in this country. Whatever one thinks about Corbyn as a leader, if it's a choice between Red and Blue then there's only one reasonable choice.


Yellow

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Is it just me? on 11:12 - Jun 11 with 514 viewsWeWereZombies

Is it just me? on 11:03 - Jun 11 by Darth_Koont

Indeed.

The idea that Boris or indeed any of the other contenders leading the Conservatives is what the UK now needs is frankly insanity. Their record domestically and over Brexit is shocking, and now they look like doubling down.

Objectively we need to reappraise and rebalance the social conditions in this country. Whatever one thinks about Corbyn as a leader, if it's a choice between Red and Blue then there's only one reasonable choice.


Well, there may be another choice:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-48580971

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Is it just me? on 11:17 - Jun 11 with 501 viewsDarth_Koont

Is it just me? on 11:11 - Jun 11 by itfcjoe

Yellow


We'll see. I doubt that will translate into a real GE performance but the LibDems do seem to be to the left of the old New Labour so that's a step in the right direction.

It's time for someone to pick up the ball and sort out the UK's structural issues and imbalances. Actively and not just talking about it.
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Is it just me? on 11:20 - Jun 11 with 491 viewsDarth_Koont

Is it just me? on 11:12 - Jun 11 by WeWereZombies

Well, there may be another choice:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-48580971


Well, she's not wrong:

"Ahead of her speech at the European Policy Centre, Ms Sturgeon said people in Scotland had "shown that they comprehensively reject Brexit and want to remain as a European nation".

She added: "Membership of the EU not only has huge economic benefits for Scotland, but is the basis of the core values we share around democracy, equality, co-operation and human rights.

"My engagements in Brussels are an opportunity to outline the Scottish government's support for those values and how they contribute to a better Scotland, Europe and wider world.

"On issues such as climate change and tackling inequality we can all work together to ensure the wellbeing of our citizens, as well as the wealth of member states."

And none of that will be coming from Westminster unless there's a radical shift in priorities and taking responsibility.
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