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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM 08:28 - Jun 15 with 3933 viewsHerbivore

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/15/boris-johnson-failed-to-prot

When in office he had the power to do something and just couldn't be arsed (this is far from the only suggestion that he didn't really do much as Foreign Secretary either). As soon as he's out of the job he's writing a column calling for exactly the thing he could have done himself whilst in office. He's a publicist and a blagger, that's all he is. He's fit to agitate from the sidelines but is utterly unfit for any kind of responsibility.

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 08:43 - Jun 15 with 2492 viewsNo9

Everyone knows Mr Johnson handles truth extremely carelessly
Now his supporters shout down anyone asking reasonable questions is an interesting development
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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 08:51 - Jun 15 with 2478 viewsBlueNomad

We are heading for dark times. Government through the cult of personality, incompetence, a lack of direction, further divisions within society and no standing in the world.
[Post edited 15 Jun 2019 8:56]
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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 08:54 - Jun 15 with 2463 viewsNo9

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 08:51 - Jun 15 by BlueNomad

We are heading for dark times. Government through the cult of personality, incompetence, a lack of direction, further divisions within society and no standing in the world.
[Post edited 15 Jun 2019 8:56]


Indeed, it looks like the other members of the WTO are viewing the Uk with some distaste
If the WTO survives the Trump attack (with others) things for the UK may not be as easy as the brexiters would like?
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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:04 - Jun 15 with 2432 viewsBlueNomad

Accurate summary:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-leadershi
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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:18 - Jun 15 with 2403 viewsPinewoodblue

Couldn't the last sentence in the original post equally apply to Corbyn?

He's fit to agitate from the sidelines but is utterly unfit for any kind of responsibility

When you see the mess the conservative party is in it is hard to understand why the Labour party isn't attracting much higher support in opinion polls .

Both major parties need a much younger leadership, fresh ideas not old ideologies.

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:43 - Jun 15 with 2367 viewsPositivelyPortman

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:18 - Jun 15 by Pinewoodblue

Couldn't the last sentence in the original post equally apply to Corbyn?

He's fit to agitate from the sidelines but is utterly unfit for any kind of responsibility

When you see the mess the conservative party is in it is hard to understand why the Labour party isn't attracting much higher support in opinion polls .

Both major parties need a much younger leadership, fresh ideas not old ideologies.


Rubbish. It’s the young voters that love Corbyn- he is offering something new.
It’s the over 60’s older Labour voters that don’t like him. They buy The Sun or Mail and believe them to be left wing papers.

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:48 - Jun 15 with 2350 viewsPinewoodblue

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:43 - Jun 15 by PositivelyPortman

Rubbish. It’s the young voters that love Corbyn- he is offering something new.
It’s the over 60’s older Labour voters that don’t like him. They buy The Sun or Mail and believe them to be left wing papers.


Since when was turning the clock back offering something new.

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:51 - Jun 15 with 2342 viewsNo9

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:18 - Jun 15 by Pinewoodblue

Couldn't the last sentence in the original post equally apply to Corbyn?

He's fit to agitate from the sidelines but is utterly unfit for any kind of responsibility

When you see the mess the conservative party is in it is hard to understand why the Labour party isn't attracting much higher support in opinion polls .

Both major parties need a much younger leadership, fresh ideas not old ideologies.


The amount of anti labour in the media and some social media is it really so surprising that no party is really challenging the tories other than the Farage millionaires party?

Money talks doesn't it?
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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:57 - Jun 15 with 2323 viewsPinewoodblue

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:51 - Jun 15 by No9

The amount of anti labour in the media and some social media is it really so surprising that no party is really challenging the tories other than the Farage millionaires party?

Money talks doesn't it?


That is traditional Tory supporters turning against their own..

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 10:07 - Jun 15 with 2309 viewsNo9

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:57 - Jun 15 by Pinewoodblue

That is traditional Tory supporters turning against their own..


Traditional tory supporters are turning to Mr farage, you should have got that from two bits of evidence
1/ the tory party claims 60% of their membership voted for the brexit party
2/ Mr Johnsons is being sold as the Farage beater

So far none of them have given us the UK public much hope any (maybe Rory S alone? ) = confrontation with the EU will only see on e looser in the long run.
The rich will be OK, the rest not.
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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 10:08 - Jun 15 with 2309 viewspickles110564

Just imagine how bad it would be with Corbyn in power, God help us.
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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 10:09 - Jun 15 with 2304 viewsNo9

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 10:08 - Jun 15 by pickles110564

Just imagine how bad it would be with Corbyn in power, God help us.


Ask half a million young people
+_ those who Boris will hurt
As I said, it's OK for you rich people
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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 10:16 - Jun 15 with 2287 viewsBlueBadger

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 10:09 - Jun 15 by No9

Ask half a million young people
+_ those who Boris will hurt
As I said, it's OK for you rich people


Boris and the Dear Leader have a lot in common. They're both lazy racist incompetents bent on implementing an at-all-costs Brexit who are inexplicably popular with a somewhat cult-like following.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 10:28 - Jun 15 with 2256 viewsBinner

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:18 - Jun 15 by Pinewoodblue

Couldn't the last sentence in the original post equally apply to Corbyn?

He's fit to agitate from the sidelines but is utterly unfit for any kind of responsibility

When you see the mess the conservative party is in it is hard to understand why the Labour party isn't attracting much higher support in opinion polls .

Both major parties need a much younger leadership, fresh ideas not old ideologies.


I can not agree with your last paragraph. Rather than 'young' leadership and new ideas we need competent leaders (of any age) who are able to make things work and get us out of the almighty mess we are in.

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 11:04 - Jun 15 with 2201 viewsBlueBadger

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 10:08 - Jun 15 by pickles110564

Just imagine how bad it would be with Corbyn in power, God help us.


You'd probably get the hard Brexit you were desperate for last week.
Although it's likely you've changed your mid since then.

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 11:08 - Jun 15 with 2193 viewsSpruceMoose

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 11:04 - Jun 15 by BlueBadger

You'd probably get the hard Brexit you were desperate for last week.
Although it's likely you've changed your mid since then.


Or he's just been lying about it the whole time.

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 11:24 - Jun 15 with 2152 viewsRyorry

Not to mention -


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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 11:26 - Jun 15 with 2145 viewsPinewoodblue

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 10:28 - Jun 15 by Binner

I can not agree with your last paragraph. Rather than 'young' leadership and new ideas we need competent leaders (of any age) who are able to make things work and get us out of the almighty mess we are in.


None, of the Oldens, come to mind as competent leaders hence the need to give the next generation a chance.

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 11:30 - Jun 15 with 2134 viewsSteve_M

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 09:43 - Jun 15 by PositivelyPortman

Rubbish. It’s the young voters that love Corbyn- he is offering something new.
It’s the over 60’s older Labour voters that don’t like him. They buy The Sun or Mail and believe them to be left wing papers.


Given that younger voters are overwhelmingly pro-EU, there are problems ahead which the Dear Leader may not have thought through.

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 12:03 - Jun 15 with 2080 viewsPinewoodblue

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 11:30 - Jun 15 by Steve_M

Given that younger voters are overwhelmingly pro-EU, there are problems ahead which the Dear Leader may not have thought through.


The dear leader will not be around that long he is only interested in the next election, not the one after that

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 12:13 - Jun 15 with 2064 viewsBloomBlue

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 10:09 - Jun 15 by No9

Ask half a million young people
+_ those who Boris will hurt
As I said, it's OK for you rich people


Corbyn will hurt the young people he's anti business and the young dont understand its businesses which drive the world, they employ the people which result in taxes and its those taxes the government use for public services. Thankfully older people understand that simple fact of life.
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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 12:16 - Jun 15 with 2059 viewsDanTheMan

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 12:13 - Jun 15 by BloomBlue

Corbyn will hurt the young people he's anti business and the young dont understand its businesses which drive the world, they employ the people which result in taxes and its those taxes the government use for public services. Thankfully older people understand that simple fact of life.


Then why do old people keep trying to reduce taxes?

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 12:17 - Jun 15 with 2055 viewsSpruceMoose

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 12:16 - Jun 15 by DanTheMan

Then why do old people keep trying to reduce taxes?


Don't expect any kind of rational answer from Bloom.

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 12:40 - Jun 15 with 2028 viewsSwansea_Blue

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 10:28 - Jun 15 by Binner

I can not agree with your last paragraph. Rather than 'young' leadership and new ideas we need competent leaders (of any age) who are able to make things work and get us out of the almighty mess we are in.


Yep. What politics actually needs is for politicians to embrace the principles the TIGers were supposed to be standing for. Although it’s quite evident from their failure to get off the ground that our politicians have no truck with evidenced-based decision making, openness, honesty, equality and a socially-focussed approach to macroeconomics.

Even if we could just start first with a bit of honesty and integrity, it would be a huge improvement.

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A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 13:13 - Jun 15 with 1982 viewsBloomBlue

A microcosm of why Boris shouldn't be PM on 12:16 - Jun 15 by DanTheMan

Then why do old people keep trying to reduce taxes?


Your getting confused between the different types of taxes, but still the answer is the same business drive a country. Unfortunately some people actually think a socialised nationalised can create businesses, so so wrong. The reason the US is so successful is they understand that, entrepreneurs create new businesses. No socialist government has ever created a new business all they do is nationalise them.

History has taught us left socialised governments equals increased unemployment, it shouldn't be like that if they work with businesses. I hate Blair with a passion but at least he understood that, with JC all businesses are seen as the "bad guys'. I've not got many years left on this planet but I'll try and hold on and if JC gets into power I can then post told you so as unemployment increases.
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