| TV Licences for the over 75s 15:22 - Jun 19 with 3943 views | GeoffSentence |
My Gordon Brown hating, tory voting parents-in-law are livid that their free TV licence is being taken away.
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:24 - Jun 19 with 2921 views | xrayspecs |
All benefits, including tv licences and bus passes should be means tested. Ditto winter fuel allowance.
Should prioritise those who need it the most. |  | | |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:25 - Jun 19 with 2907 views | J2BLUE |
It's about £12 a month. No sympathy for pensioners who can comfortably pay for it. |  |
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:28 - Jun 19 with 2893 views | Lesta_Tractor |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:24 - Jun 19 by xrayspecs |
All benefits, including tv licences and bus passes should be means tested. Ditto winter fuel allowance.
Should prioritise those who need it the most. |
I guess it depends if it's cheaper to give the benefits to all than it is to administer the means testing... |  |
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:30 - Jun 19 with 2871 views | footers |
These elderly layabouts should be pitching in to stimulate the economy in our hour of need. Instead they all sit about watching Cash in the Attic and sharing 'hilarious' local news stories on football message boards. |  |
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:38 - Jun 19 with 2845 views | Ryorry |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:28 - Jun 19 by Lesta_Tractor |
I guess it depends if it's cheaper to give the benefits to all than it is to administer the means testing... |
They should make paying it voluntary. Tens of thousands would quite happily do so, incl me. |  |
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:41 - Jun 19 with 2823 views | factual_blue |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:30 - Jun 19 by footers |
These elderly layabouts should be pitching in to stimulate the economy in our hour of need. Instead they all sit about watching Cash in the Attic and sharing 'hilarious' local news stories on football message boards. |
I hate Cash In The Attic.
I like Repair Shop, Bargain Hunt and Pointless. |  |
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:47 - Jun 19 with 2804 views | ballycastle |
One advert, one programme sponsored by, prior to top BBC programmes would possibly pay for a free BBC for all, the BBC is full of adverts already , adverts for it's own programmes.
The BBC is great value by the way, if one listens to radio 4 only and never radio depression 5. | | | |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:52 - Jun 19 with 2783 views | xrayspecs |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:28 - Jun 19 by Lesta_Tractor |
I guess it depends if it's cheaper to give the benefits to all than it is to administer the means testing... |
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:00 - Jun 19 with 2749 views | factual_blue |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:28 - Jun 19 by Lesta_Tractor |
I guess it depends if it's cheaper to give the benefits to all than it is to administer the means testing... |
Well, with most means testing now eliminated from the benefits system, the running costs of DWP are a mere £6.2 billion a year, £2.6 billion of which is staff costs. This is the cost of paying out about £174 billion a year in various benefits, around 61% of which (£106 billion) goes to people of pension age.
Only 10% (about £17 billion) is paid to the unemployed.
https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/11559-001-DWP-SG_6DP_final.pdf | |
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:07 - Jun 19 with 2704 views | xrayspecs |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:00 - Jun 19 by factual_blue |
Well, with most means testing now eliminated from the benefits system, the running costs of DWP are a mere £6.2 billion a year, £2.6 billion of which is staff costs. This is the cost of paying out about £174 billion a year in various benefits, around 61% of which (£106 billion) goes to people of pension age.
Only 10% (about £17 billion) is paid to the unemployed.
https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/11559-001-DWP-SG_6DP_final.pdf |
I think you need to separate out pensions from benefits in this analysis.
So £91bn on pensions, paid to pensioners funnily enough.
Leaving £83bn on benefits, of which £15bn (18%) goes to those of pensionable age.
By comparison we spend around £210bn on care (around £120bn pa on the NHS and £80bn on social care).
Edit:corrected m for bn, [Post edited 19 Jun 2019 16:08]
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:08 - Jun 19 with 2696 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:24 - Jun 19 by xrayspecs |
All benefits, including tv licences and bus passes should be means tested. Ditto winter fuel allowance.
Should prioritise those who need it the most. |
Agree apart from the bus passes.
...comfortably off people are unlikely to make use of free bus passes, so it cancels itself out. |  |
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:10 - Jun 19 with 2689 views | xrayspecs |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:08 - Jun 19 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Agree apart from the bus passes.
...comfortably off people are unlikely to make use of free bus passes, so it cancels itself out. |
I personally know a few who get a free bus pass who financially are quite comforable.
Also means they can have a few and not have to drive back home... | | | |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:11 - Jun 19 with 2681 views | PJH |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:10 - Jun 19 by xrayspecs |
I personally know a few who get a free bus pass who financially are quite comforable.
Also means they can have a few and not have to drive back home... |
Although spending 45 or so minutes on a bus when needing a slash..... |  | | |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:22 - Jun 19 with 2656 views | xrayspecs |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:11 - Jun 19 by PJH |
Although spending 45 or so minutes on a bus when needing a slash..... |
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:28 - Jun 19 with 2637 views | usm |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:24 - Jun 19 by xrayspecs |
All benefits, including tv licences and bus passes should be means tested. Ditto winter fuel allowance.
Should prioritise those who need it the most. |
Spot on
Poly Styrene [Post edited 19 Jun 2019 16:30]
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:32 - Jun 19 with 2616 views | factual_blue |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:10 - Jun 19 by xrayspecs |
I personally know a few who get a free bus pass who financially are quite comforable.
Also means they can have a few and not have to drive back home... |
Thus helping our hard-pressed publicans.... | |
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:32 - Jun 19 with 2607 views | footers |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:28 - Jun 19 by usm |
Spot on
Poly Styrene [Post edited 19 Jun 2019 16:30]
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RIP. What a woman! | |
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:39 - Jun 19 with 2576 views | Chondzoresk |
Should be means tested. I know a guy in his late 60s, amazing pension, plays the stock market for fun and still rubs everyone’s nose in it when he proclaims he gets his TV license and money towards his heating bills...like he needs it. Probably why everyone hates him.... |  | | |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:48 - Jun 19 with 2544 views | jaykay |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:39 - Jun 19 by Chondzoresk |
Should be means tested. I know a guy in his late 60s, amazing pension, plays the stock market for fun and still rubs everyone’s nose in it when he proclaims he gets his TV license and money towards his heating bills...like he needs it. Probably why everyone hates him.... |
he is amazing fellow if he get t.v. licence free before he is 75. fake news |  |
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| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:51 - Jun 19 with 2535 views | PJH |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 16:48 - Jun 19 by jaykay |
he is amazing fellow if he get t.v. licence free before he is 75. fake news |
I thought that, or maybe he lies about his age. | | | |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 17:08 - Jun 19 with 2489 views | PJH |
| TV Licences for the over 75s on 15:24 - Jun 19 by xrayspecs |
All benefits, including tv licences and bus passes should be means tested. Ditto winter fuel allowance.
Should prioritise those who need it the most. |
Taking my own case in isolation I do not feel at all guilty about accepting whatever I am given in benefits/perks having worked from age 17 until just short of my 63rd birthday apart from breaks due to being made redundant three times.
During that time I contributed in National Insurance and Income Tax(no idea what they are called now)and had very very few days off sick.
When I do feel guilty is when you hear of families living on the breadline or worse but I am not sure if my refusing my £100 per year fuel allowance or not having occasional free bus rides would make too much difference to that.
Basically there are two sides to the argument and if I was means tested then I am comfortable enough to survive without these things but where has the 40 odd years of my NI and Tax gone? | | | |
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