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So the Mark Field incident then... 07:23 - Jun 21 with 31570 views

In this longer version of the video, you can see the woman apparently posing no immediate threat as she passes behind Mark Field. He marches her out of the room by her neck. I wasnâ€™t there, so I canâ€™t say she didnâ€™t pose a risk, but it looks heavy handed. pic.twitter.com/zX2BtcPW4t
— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) June 20, 2019

Posted the longer video for context.

His explanation is that he thought she might be armed.

Can't say that he looks very scared, looks more angry than anything and then takes it out on her. Not a good look.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:04 - Jun 21 with 4408 views

Pendejo

So that wasn't considered foreplay then?

Will have to re-think the physical side of my relationship with the wife. Before anyone jumps in... she's the one that holds my neck.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:06 - Jun 21 with 4394 views

Pendejo

So the Mark Field incident then... on 09:53 - Jun 21 by flimflam
How did they even get that far? Where were security? What if it was someone who wanted to create harm? But if people want to play silly games and crash an organised event then expect to get ejected. Fair play and tough sh*t. Notice she still has hold of her phone so must of been OK.

Given that the Chancellor of the Exchequer was in attendance, let alone the City big nobs, that's a shocking security breach.

I haven't looked closely but that dress could have accommodated enough explosive to cause severe damage to attendees.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:06 - Jun 21 with 4394 views

flimflam

So the Mark Field incident then... on 08:59 - Jun 21 by StokieBlue

I do think he has a point.

It seems that nowadays people think they have the right to impose their views on people regardless of the situation or the context. I don't actually think it's acceptable.

A protest outside the venue is certainly acceptable and would also make a point, bursting into venues isn't in my opinion. If someone burst into your home and protested at you eating your spam I doubt you'd be please.

It's all about context and that has been lost over the last decade. People "know" they are right and thus these "rules" don't apply to them.

SB

Can we apply this to TWTD?

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:07 - Jun 21 with 4392 views

BiGDonnie

So the Mark Field incident then... on 09:23 - Jun 21 by giant_stow
Kicks and punches would move an incident to being an 'attack' for me. Even my using 'roughed up' might be under-cooking it a bit - she was grabbed, slammed into a pillar and then marched out by her neck ffs!

Had the silly cow stayed at home, nothing would have happened

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:08 - Jun 21 with 4388 views

Marshalls_Mullet

So the Mark Field incident then... on 09:59 - Jun 21 by Steve_M
For those who argue Mark Field was justified in his actions as the woman could have been a threat, worth noting there were several Tory MPs at Esther McVeyâ€™s leadership launch when this - genuinely very furious - man stormed the stage. He was barely touched. pic.twitter.com/cmtmSaarnB — Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) June 21, 2019

Good old twitter outrage and pedantry at work.

Take one picture, make story up, use out of context.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:10 - Jun 21 with 4372 views

giant_stow

So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:08 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet
Good old twitter outrage and pedantry at work. Take one picture, make story up, use out of context.

Not really. Just reinforces the coward point really - what a hero! What a gent.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:12 - Jun 21 with 4364 views

Marshalls_Mullet

So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:10 - Jun 21 by giant_stow
Not really. Just reinforces the coward point really - what a hero! What a gent.

The picture tells us nothing at all. It's pointless.

I wouldnt have dealt with the woman that way, but twitter can't have it both ways.

I don't think there would have been this 'outrage' if that was a man.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:15 - Jun 21 with 4356 views

Steve_M

So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:12 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet
The picture tells us nothing at all. It's pointless. I wouldnt have dealt with the woman that way, but twitter can't have it both ways. I don't think there would have been this 'outrage' if that was a man.

Classic point missing. It's not because it's a man, it's because no-one did anything to a far more aggressive protester in a similar situation a couple of weeks ago.

Field was wrong and reacted disproportionately, something he has now seemingly admitted.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:16 - Jun 21 with 4353 views

BiGDonnie

So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:12 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet
The picture tells us nothing at all. It's pointless. I wouldnt have dealt with the woman that way, but twitter can't have it both ways. I don't think there would have been this 'outrage' if that was a man.

This is a classic TWTD case of who can be the most offended by something.

Assault, shoved into a pillar, grabbed by the neck. Madness.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:18 - Jun 21 with 4348 views

Marshalls_Mullet

So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:15 - Jun 21 by Steve_M
Classic point missing. It's not because it's a man, it's because no-one did anything to a far more aggressive protester in a similar situation a couple of weeks ago. Field was wrong and reacted disproportionately, something he has now seemingly admitted.

Different people in a different place at a different time reacted to a different situation in a different way.

Doesn't tell us much.

There's been a massive over reaction here.

One lesson... don't trespass, and don't invade private events.

...or you might be marched out of a room. Oh the horror.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:19 - Jun 21 with 4340 views

Marshalls_Mullet

So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:16 - Jun 21 by BiGDonnie
This is a classic TWTD case of who can be the most offended by something. Assault, shoved into a pillar, grabbed by the neck. Madness.

Agreed, some classic exaggeration.

Who would have thought this would fall down to politics.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:22 - Jun 21 with 4336 views

flimflam

So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:18 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet
Different people in a different place at a different time reacted to a different situation in a different way. Doesn't tell us much. There's been a massive over reaction here. One lesson... don't trespass, and don't invade private events. ...or you might be marched out of a room. Oh the horror.

I remember being frog marched by my teacher from one end of the school to the other almost lifted of the floor by my ear. Does that make me a victim?

All the news channels saying charges should be pressed and emphasising she is a woman.

So what. Equality works both ways and if she wants to act like a knob then expect to get treated like one regardless of gender.

All men and women are created, by the, you know the, you know the thing.

So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:24 - Jun 21 with 4333 views

Marshalls_Mullet

So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:22 - Jun 21 by flimflam
I remember being frog marched by my teacher from one end of the school to the other almost lifted of the floor by my ear. Does that make me a victim? All the news channels saying charges should be pressed and emphasising she is a woman. So what. Equality works both ways and if she wants to act like a knob then expect to get treated like one regardless of gender.

Agreed.

As a well known feminist, I find it disappointing that the media is acting in such a patronising and misogynistic way...

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:25 - Jun 21 with 4332 views

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:24 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet
Agreed. As a well known feminist, I find it disappointing that the media is acting in such a patronising and misogynistic way...

You do get awfully het up when the fairer sex is brought up, buh! Maybe have a cold shower...

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:26 - Jun 21 with 4327 views

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:25 - Jun 21 by footers
You do get awfully het up when the fairer sex is brought up, buh! Maybe have a cold shower...

...fairer sex? You misogynist!

If anyone sound get up, it isn't me. X

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:44 - Jun 21 with 4306 views

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:18 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet
Different people in a different place at a different time reacted to a different situation in a different way. Doesn't tell us much. There's been a massive over reaction here. One lesson... don't trespass, and don't invade private events. ...or you might be marched out of a room. Oh the horror.

Absolutely, time people took some responsibility for their actions.

Man done nothing wrong here. Move on.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 11:00 - Jun 21 with 4280 views

giant_stow

So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:44 - Jun 21 by brazil1982
Absolutely, time people took some responsibility for their actions. Man done nothing wrong here. Move on.

You're absolutely right, he should take some responsibility for his actions.

And what's all this bollox about people getting offended?! No ones offended, or not me anyway, more concerned about violence, especially in the political arena, from a fcking mp of all people!

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 11:00 - Jun 21 by giant_stow
You're absolutely right, he should take some responsibility for his actions. And what's all this bollox about people getting offended?! No ones offended, or not me anyway, more concerned about violence, especially in the political arena, from a fcking mp of all people!

Violence? Behave yourself.

Man did nothing wrong, move on.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 11:08 - Jun 21 with 4267 views

BiGDonnie

So the Mark Field incident then... on 11:00 - Jun 21 by giant_stow
You're absolutely right, he should take some responsibility for his actions. And what's all this bollox about people getting offended?! No ones offended, or not me anyway, more concerned about violence, especially in the political arena, from a fcking mp of all people!

Let us know when you see some 'violence'

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GeoffSentence

So the Mark Field incident then... on 08:15 - Jun 21 by GlasgowBlue
If a bloke gatecrashed a party I was attending then I’d chuck him out. If it was a woman I would not. I understand that is an old fashioned way of looking at things but I was brought up to open doors for women and give up seats on the bus/tube etc. Im a product of an upbringing from a different age and Im not going to change.

yeah, but only because you'd be delighted have more girls turning up for your party.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 11:19 - Jun 21 with 4247 views

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 11:05 - Jun 21 by brazil1982
Violence? Behave yourself. Man did nothing wrong, move on.

Apparently he's apologised and referred himself for investigation, which suggests he himself realises he's done wrong.

Shouldn't be any more to it than that.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 11:22 - Jun 21 with 4241 views

syntaxerror

So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:44 - Jun 21 by brazil1982
Absolutely, time people took some responsibility for their actions. Man done nothing wrong here. Move on.

Did you same the same thing when your mates Nige and Tommy got milkshaked? Or is it just ok if its a lefty who gets rough handled?

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 11:36 - Jun 21 with 4213 views

GeoffSentence

So the Mark Field incident then... on 09:01 - Jun 21 by GlasgowBlue

And if he has any balls he should say yes. And if he doesn’t resign he should be sacked.

One last comment on the man/woman differences. A few years ago John Prescott punched a bloke for egging him. Most people said well done. There was no hand wringing at the time and I think Blair said it was “John being John”.

There would have quite rightly been a massive uproar if the egger was a woman rather than a burley bloke and Prescott punches her.

There is a different way that we treat men and women. People can deny this but it’s true.

I can't imagine that there would have been so many complaints if it was Tommy Robinson getting manhandled in this way, though probably there would have been a few if it was ,say ,Warwick Davies.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 12:04 - Jun 21 with 4180 views

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 11:22 - Jun 21 by syntaxerror
Did you same the same thing when your mates Nige and Tommy got milkshaked? Or is it just ok if its a lefty who gets rough handled? [Post edited 21 Jun 2019 11:22]

"My mates"

what on earth are you dribbling about.

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So the Mark Field incident then... on 12:05 - Jun 21 with 4175 views

GlasgowBlue

So the Mark Field incident then... on 10:02 - Jun 21 by BiGDonnie
If it was your or a family members party and she turned up to ruin it, you wouldn't chuck her out? I certainly would. I also would if it was a 6'5 bloke. I'd just get some help in doing so. That said, he was a bit rough with her, should have just stood in her way and said you ain't coming through.

I’d ask her to leave but wouldn’t manhandle her. If she wouldn’t move then ask one of the ladies to deal with her.

A bloke would be asked once and if that didn’t then reasonable force would be used.

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