| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? 11:44 - Jul 7 with 14607 views | Darth_Koont |
Well, this confirms my worst fears for Wednesday's Panorama exposé on Labour antisemitism.
At a time when we need balance and perspective to get past the narrative and look at facts, instead we've got a journalist who is one of the chief architects of that narrative ... he's already been accused of doing a Panorama hatchet job against Corbyn in 2015 as well as being repeatedly accused of having a pro-Israel and islamophobic stance in other stories.
https://skwawkbox.org/2019/07/07/the-background-of-the-man-behind-the-panorama-h
That doesn't read well. And looks like the BBC will be doubling down on its generally pretty awful and non-factual reporting around this crisis.
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 11:49 - Jul 7 with 6315 views | lowhouseblue |
good grief you're desperate.
i think you may be going a bit potty. |  |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 11:50 - Jul 7 with 6310 views | StokieBlue |
That's an ad hominen attack of the worst kind. You've attacked the man and dismissed the views before you've even seen it.
Given that saying "The state of our politics and our media" isn't really a good line to take given you're doing exactly what you say the media and certain posters here are doing.
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 12:17 - Jul 7 with 6177 views | Darth_Koont |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 12:13 - Jul 7 by StokieBlue |
That's all just another ad hominen. You've still not waited to see the what is actually said, in fact you've doubled-down on your original assertions.
You accuse others on this board of playing the man not the evidence yet it's fair game for you to do exactly that.
In my opinion you are in too deep on this subject, you need to step back and look at your posts as I don't think you're quite as unbiased as you seem to think. Perhaps it's tunnel vision?
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With all due respect Stokie, I'm sure you'd think it odd if the person who was charged with looking into Brexit claims was a Mail reporter with a background of supporting Leave.
Let's wait and see. Here's hoping that the BBC deliberately chose John Ware because his previous positions would take care of the accusation that he's pro-Corbyn. And not because it'll create a clickbaity, hatchety opinion piece. [Post edited 7 Jul 2019 12:19]
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 12:34 - Jul 7 with 6117 views | BloomBlue |
The evidence is there, look at what Ken Livingstone said and Labour still haven't banned him. |  | | |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 12:53 - Jul 7 with 6076 views | Darth_Koont |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 12:34 - Jul 7 by BloomBlue |
The evidence is there, look at what Ken Livingstone said and Labour still haven't banned him. |
They suspended him and later he resigned over a year ago.
FWIW I think Livingstone was far too glib and disrespectful in how he supported Naz Shah there. His answer to Vanessa Feltz was always going to cause offence. And especially when taken out of context (Feltz brought up the Hitler reference, which is what he was responding to).
But the whole episode should have been a wakeup call to how these high-profile incidents are runaway trains. There should have been a far more robust defence to stop things snowballing and being taken and subsequently used in the worst way possible. | |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:18 - Jul 7 with 6015 views | Bluefish |
Your lack of balance and objectivity is rather worrying. You are effectively an extremist. |  |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:24 - Jul 7 with 6010 views | Darth_Koont |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:18 - Jul 7 by Bluefish |
Your lack of balance and objectivity is rather worrying. You are effectively an extremist. |
Because I'm asking for balance and objectivity?
That's a bit perverse.
These have been almost completely lacking in the media and on here I might add. Addressing the other side of the story is balance and objectivity, ignoring it totally is what? | |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:24 - Jul 7 with 6000 views | GlasgowBlue |
The third thread in a week that you have started to defend racism and attack those who are exposing it.
Not a good look at all DK. You are going to get a reputation on here. |  |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:27 - Jul 7 with 6003 views | Darth_Koont |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:24 - Jul 7 by GlasgowBlue |
The third thread in a week that you have started to defend racism and attack those who are exposing it.
Not a good look at all DK. You are going to get a reputation on here. |
I'd rather stand up for truth. And against smeary, disingenuous opportunists like you. | |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:35 - Jul 7 with 5945 views | Bluefish |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:24 - Jul 7 by Darth_Koont |
Because I'm asking for balance and objectivity?
That's a bit perverse.
These have been almost completely lacking in the media and on here I might add. Addressing the other side of the story is balance and objectivity, ignoring it totally is what? |
Yes mate just like the edl and fla and all yaxleys mob ask for balance | |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:36 - Jul 7 with 5940 views | Bluefish |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:27 - Jul 7 by Darth_Koont |
I'd rather stand up for truth. And against smeary, disingenuous opportunists like you. |
Personally I think you are a disgrace to the board and it is worrying that you are allowed to continue without being seriously taken to task | |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:38 - Jul 7 with 5941 views | giant_stow |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:24 - Jul 7 by Darth_Koont |
Because I'm asking for balance and objectivity?
That's a bit perverse.
These have been almost completely lacking in the media and on here I might add. Addressing the other side of the story is balance and objectivity, ignoring it totally is what? |
In the interests of balance and objectivity, don't you think you ought to watch the show before denouncing it? [Post edited 7 Jul 2019 13:42]
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:43 - Jul 7 with 5928 views | giant_stow |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:36 - Jul 7 by Bluefish |
Personally I think you are a disgrace to the board and it is worrying that you are allowed to continue without being seriously taken to task |
Tbf to Phil, this must be a nightmare to moderate. | |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:44 - Jul 7 with 5918 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:35 - Jul 7 by Bluefish |
Yes mate just like the edl and fla and all yaxleys mob ask for balance |
I understand that Labour actually missed the 10 day deadline in which they were given to respond to allegations in the Panorama doc.
As for DK linking the Corbyn supporting Skwarkbox attacking one of the journos behind Wednesday's episode. Lots of journalists and researches are involved in making this sort of program and it will have to meet BBC standards. Plus its going to include first hand testimony from Jewish Labour members and ex employees.
DK has lost all credibility on here. At best, he is a defender and apologist for racism. I'm amazed he's allowed to get away with it so often. [Post edited 7 Jul 2019 13:46]
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:46 - Jul 7 with 5904 views | Bluefish |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:43 - Jul 7 by giant_stow |
Tbf to Phil, this must be a nightmare to moderate. |
Lots of it probably is but I think DK has long crossed the line and is refusing to come back. | |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 14:02 - Jul 7 with 5861 views | Darth_Koont |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:35 - Jul 7 by Bluefish |
Yes mate just like the edl and fla and all yaxleys mob ask for balance |
Thanks for that.
The supporters of the EDL and FLA are the ones who ignore evidence by the way, and just trot out their accusations. | |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 14:06 - Jul 7 with 5856 views | Darth_Koont |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:38 - Jul 7 by giant_stow |
In the interests of balance and objectivity, don't you think you ought to watch the show before denouncing it? [Post edited 7 Jul 2019 13:42]
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Sure, let's see.
But I think it's fair to ask questions about impartiality and integrity. It's already a hugely lop-sided "debate" because of a lack of balance and objectivity. John Ware doesn't inspire confidence that is going to change any time soon. | |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 14:11 - Jul 7 with 5837 views | Darth_Koont |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:46 - Jul 7 by Bluefish |
Lots of it probably is but I think DK has long crossed the line and is refusing to come back. |
Fancy looking at the other side of the story? Addressing the factual evidence? No, course you don't.
Laughable that you are talking about crossing lines with such low standards as that. | |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 14:18 - Jul 7 with 5803 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 14:06 - Jul 7 by Darth_Koont |
Sure, let's see.
But I think it's fair to ask questions about impartiality and integrity. It's already a hugely lop-sided "debate" because of a lack of balance and objectivity. John Ware doesn't inspire confidence that is going to change any time soon. |
Seriously? You have spent the last few months bleating about how the piss poor documentary the Lobby proves Israel is behind the allegations of anti semitism in the Labour party. The Lobby was produced by anti Israeli Al Jazeera, state funded ny those loveable antisemitdees and homophobes in Qatar, and included interviews with people suspended and expelled by the Labour party for antisemitism.
Now you are attacking a documentary that hasn't even aired yet because it was made by John Ware who you believe to be pro Israeli and anti Corbyn.
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. [Post edited 7 Jul 2019 14:20]
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 14:20 - Jul 7 with 5800 views | wkj |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 13:43 - Jul 7 by giant_stow |
Tbf to Phil, this must be a nightmare to moderate. |
Phil before this thread.
Phil after this thread.
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 14:29 - Jul 7 with 5774 views | Darth_Koont |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 14:18 - Jul 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Seriously? You have spent the last few months bleating about how the piss poor documentary the Lobby proves Israel is behind the allegations of anti semitism in the Labour party. The Lobby was produced by anti Israeli Al Jazeera, state funded ny those loveable antisemitdees and homophobes in Qatar, and included interviews with people suspended and expelled by the Labour party for antisemitism.
Now you are attacking a documentary that hasn't even aired yet because it was made by John Ware who you believe to be pro Israeli and anti Corbyn.
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. [Post edited 7 Jul 2019 14:20]
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Wow! You're even hypocritical when talking about hypocrisy.
You've refused to watch The Lobby. And I will be watching Panorama. And I will address the content.
Now your turn. | |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 14:30 - Jul 7 with 5758 views | Bluefish |
| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 14:02 - Jul 7 by Darth_Koont |
Thanks for that.
The supporters of the EDL and FLA are the ones who ignore evidence by the way, and just trot out their accusations. |
You are ridiculously ingrained in this, of edl and fla try and use evidence from ridiculous biased sources to make their disgusting racism acceptable. It is just like you do daily. | |
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| Panorama? Or Tunnel Vision? on 14:43 - Jul 7 with 5739 views | BlueBadger |
I'll tell what doesn't read well. Your constant attempts to excuse, defend and explain away genuine concerns.
You are coming across like those defending Brexit Party members bigotry, frankly. [Post edited 7 Jul 2019 15:19]
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