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Will lose a no confidence vote in September, replaced with a centrist cross-party government of national unity led by Starmer etc. who will facilitate a second referendum. Can't really see any other outcome now, given Boris and the EU aren't going back down from their respective positions, and there have got to be enough tories would happily bring that lot down to stop no deal. If Corbyn was a credible leader they would think twice about it, but the threat of a Corbyn government is too small to stop them.
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That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 22:15 - Jul 24 with 3295 views
That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 21:58 - Jul 24 by HARRY10
At the moment Mr Piffle waffle is almost totally dependent on the bigots in NI, hence his visiting a month or so back.
He does not have a majority in the house as far as brexit goes as so will be unable to force through a no deal, and with his dependence on the DUP change any of the back stop agreement either.
As to a no confidence vote why would the pro remain MPs back that. They have Johnson just where they want and such is his unprincipled vanity that he will agree to anything to keep himm in 'power'. Remember it needs 2/3rds of MPs to vote for an election, it is not Johnson's choice.
I expect another extension will be granted on the UK agreeing to a decisive act. Which would have to be a referendum. And given how the polling is going that would be fairly decisive in Remain favour.
The Brexit company will simply wither away as did the BNP before them. the UK voters will want to embrace the future not cling to the past.
You don't need 2/3rds if there is a vote of no confidence.
If the house passes a vote of no confidence then there is a 2 week spell where someone can try to gather the neccessary support to form a government with a vote of confidence. If no one can form a government then parliament dissolves and a new election is called.
The 2/3rd vote just removes the 2 week period.
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That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 22:33 - Jul 24 with 3275 views
That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 20:25 - Jul 24 by BlueBadger
Boris himself will be backtracking like nobody's business. He doesn't want the clusterf*ck of a no-deal on his political epitaph and, at some point, will have to sell whatever policy he comes up with to parliament and quite possibly the public. He'll either end up gong to a referendum to 'reaffirm the Will Of The People' or calling a GE. Which will result in a hung parliament. And then a referendum.
Completely agree. I can’t see an outcome now other than one of a 2nd referendum.
That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 22:36 - Jul 24 by caught-in-limbo
The ending to the Brexit show was clear from the very start. The challenge has always been to make democracy appear to be the champion.
#LongLiveDemocracyInTheUk
what's the ending then? do tell.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 23:05 - Jul 24 with 3234 views
That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 20:25 - Jul 24 by BlueBadger
Boris himself will be backtracking like nobody's business. He doesn't want the clusterf*ck of a no-deal on his political epitaph and, at some point, will have to sell whatever policy he comes up with to parliament and quite possibly the public. He'll either end up gong to a referendum to 'reaffirm the Will Of The People' or calling a GE. Which will result in a hung parliament. And then a referendum.
He’s already started to backtrack. October 31st might already be extended for a short technical extension to finalise legal issues.
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That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 23:16 - Jul 24 with 3219 views
Must be setting up for a snap election, otherwise he’s going to be in trouble with so many back benchers hating him and literally only no dealers in the cabinet
That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 23:16 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe
Must be setting up for a snap election, otherwise he’s going to be in trouble with so many back benchers hating him and literally only no dealers in the cabinet
He's gambling that many tories would be worried about losing their seats to the brexit party if they force an election.
That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 00:44 - Jul 25 by Swansea_Blue
That it's not going to happen and 'democracy' is a sham. Hold the front page!
That's the problem with knowing what's going to happen so far ahead of the vast majority. You just look out of step and ridiculous. Then, when people finally catch up on any single issue they look up and see you're out of step on the next issue.
That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 22:31 - Jul 24 by Kievthegreat
You don't need 2/3rds if there is a vote of no confidence.
If the house passes a vote of no confidence then there is a 2 week spell where someone can try to gather the neccessary support to form a government with a vote of confidence. If no one can form a government then parliament dissolves and a new election is called.
The 2/3rd vote just removes the 2 week period.
Yes, I an aware of that.
My point was a rebuttal of those elsewhere who keep bleating that Boris might call an election. It is not his to do.
A vote of no confidence would be rather a silly thing just as having someone at gunpoint doing your bidding means to are in control. Pulling the trigger rather negates that.
At the moment the numbers mean that any legislation will need the backing of opponents rather than it being voted through with a majority. Too many interests from the DUP, SNP to placate.
So I suggest they will simply play cat and mouse with poor Doris. The Tory conference should be immense fun to watch - assuming you are not a bigot.
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That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 23:11 - Jul 25 with 3065 views
That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 23:16 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe
Must be setting up for a snap election, otherwise he’s going to be in trouble with so many back benchers hating him and literally only no dealers in the cabinet
eh ?
that requires 2/3rds majority in the house which would require around 120 Tory MPs to vote for and every non Tory to join them, which I very much doubt
and why when the opposition have Johnson over a barrel, with the majority likely to be one MP there is not much he can do in the way of passing legislation - which puts the DUP and other small parties in enormous power
you think they would throw that away ?
what we will see is Johnson and his lot trying to blame the rest for Brexit not happening - as they already know, that's why all the bollox about definite leaving
ie when it doesn't happen they can claim it was not through a lack of commitment on their part
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That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 08:00 - Jul 26 with 3006 views
That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 03:30 - Jul 26 by HARRY10
eh ?
that requires 2/3rds majority in the house which would require around 120 Tory MPs to vote for and every non Tory to join them, which I very much doubt
and why when the opposition have Johnson over a barrel, with the majority likely to be one MP there is not much he can do in the way of passing legislation - which puts the DUP and other small parties in enormous power
you think they would throw that away ?
what we will see is Johnson and his lot trying to blame the rest for Brexit not happening - as they already know, that's why all the bollox about definite leaving
ie when it doesn't happen they can claim it was not through a lack of commitment on their part
I think Boris will call a snap election, try to make hay whilst Corbyn is still in charge and do what he needs to do to bring back the Brexit Party voters
That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 08:00 - Jul 26 by itfcjoe
I think Boris will call a snap election, try to make hay whilst Corbyn is still in charge and do what he needs to do to bring back the Brexit Party voters
Tories standing on a No Deal platform?
If they stand on a no deal platform it'll break the Tory party as it currently is. A significant proportion of the party wouldn't be willing to stand for election for a party campaigning for a no deal Brexit. That doesn't mean he won't do it though.
That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 03:30 - Jul 26 by HARRY10
eh ?
that requires 2/3rds majority in the house which would require around 120 Tory MPs to vote for and every non Tory to join them, which I very much doubt
and why when the opposition have Johnson over a barrel, with the majority likely to be one MP there is not much he can do in the way of passing legislation - which puts the DUP and other small parties in enormous power
you think they would throw that away ?
what we will see is Johnson and his lot trying to blame the rest for Brexit not happening - as they already know, that's why all the bollox about definite leaving
ie when it doesn't happen they can claim it was not through a lack of commitment on their part
The Labour party have been calling for a GE for months - they can't vote against it if the opportunity arises. The Labour party can't say Boris is 'unelected' if they are the ones who blocked a GE. It would also wipe out the independent group.
If Boris goes for a GE the house will go along with it.
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That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 08:15 - Jul 26 with 2986 views
That cabinet isnt going to govern for long on 08:07 - Jul 26 by WD19
The Labour party have been calling for a GE for months - they can't vote against it if the opportunity arises. The Labour party can't say Boris is 'unelected' if they are the ones who blocked a GE. It would also wipe out the independent group.
If Boris goes for a GE the house will go along with it.
Indeed. Just as when May called the snap election it would look like cowardice if Labour voted against.
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