| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge 21:30 - Aug 4 with 4647 views | m14_blue |
Not sure that’s fair on the emergency services is it?
Easy for me to say, and it must be a horrible situation, but they are risking their own lives and those of the people who will be required to try and save them. |  | | |  |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 21:36 - Aug 4 with 3439 views | ElderGrizzly |
My brother is a fireman and was saying if that was his patch, they would likely assess that it was not safe to go in and would leave them to figure it out themselves.
The selfishness of these 31 people, has also ended in 1500 people not being allowed to go back today and get pets, valuables etc as promised as the Police are worried a large number will refuse to leave |  | | |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 23:16 - Aug 4 with 3315 views | Ryorry |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 21:36 - Aug 4 by ElderGrizzly |
My brother is a fireman and was saying if that was his patch, they would likely assess that it was not safe to go in and would leave them to figure it out themselves.
The selfishness of these 31 people, has also ended in 1500 people not being allowed to go back today and get pets, valuables etc as promised as the Police are worried a large number will refuse to leave |
That's shocking re pets - cats can probably fend for themselves if they have catflaps, but dogs & any caged animals? Massive welfare issues there. |  |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 23:37 - Aug 4 with 3275 views | StokieBlue |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 21:36 - Aug 4 by ElderGrizzly |
My brother is a fireman and was saying if that was his patch, they would likely assess that it was not safe to go in and would leave them to figure it out themselves.
The selfishness of these 31 people, has also ended in 1500 people not being allowed to go back today and get pets, valuables etc as promised as the Police are worried a large number will refuse to leave |
Shouldn't they be forcibly removed?
It's a mandatory evacuation for the safety of everyone. You have the right to put your life at risk but not others and that is what they are doing as the emergency services would be bound to try and rescue them in the event of collapse.
I do understand that forcibly removing them opens up all types of other questions though so it's tricky.
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 23:38 - Aug 4 with 3281 views | Samuelowen88 |
I live in one of the villages in line to get hit if the dam goes. We should be fine as high up but village would potentially get cut off.
A lot of the bridges are old and might not survive a large surge.
Loads of roads closed in case the worst happens so we are all having to use little back roads.
The train line is also shut for the same reason. So I'm having to drive to work.
Lots of extra police/ fire and army around. Quite a surely experience.
This 32 are idiots for various reasons. However what has bee great to see Is the support of crews from around the country turning up to help and the local communities help each other. Shops donating supplies / restaurants and take aways delivering bonkers amounts of gun to the emergency services and locals offering beds / child minding / looking after animals etc
So far the expected rain hasn't materialised, fingers crossed it doesn't. |  |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 00:23 - Aug 5 with 3230 views | wellyblue |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 23:38 - Aug 4 by Samuelowen88 |
I live in one of the villages in line to get hit if the dam goes. We should be fine as high up but village would potentially get cut off.
A lot of the bridges are old and might not survive a large surge.
Loads of roads closed in case the worst happens so we are all having to use little back roads.
The train line is also shut for the same reason. So I'm having to drive to work.
Lots of extra police/ fire and army around. Quite a surely experience.
This 32 are idiots for various reasons. However what has bee great to see Is the support of crews from around the country turning up to help and the local communities help each other. Shops donating supplies / restaurants and take aways delivering bonkers amounts of gun to the emergency services and locals offering beds / child minding / looking after animals etc
So far the expected rain hasn't materialised, fingers crossed it doesn't. |
I spend a lot of time in the Peak District and am very familiar with the area around Buxworth, Whaley Bridge and New Mills. A lovely part of the country and very friendly people. All being well I shall be up that way again on Thursday, I hope all goes well for yourself and the local communities. |  | | |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 06:59 - Aug 5 with 3139 views | Samuelowen88 |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 00:23 - Aug 5 by wellyblue |
I spend a lot of time in the Peak District and am very familiar with the area around Buxworth, Whaley Bridge and New Mills. A lovely part of the country and very friendly people. All being well I shall be up that way again on Thursday, I hope all goes well for yourself and the local communities. |
Thank you.
Woken up to news that although it is currently raining around the dam the worse of the storm passed it by. | |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 07:49 - Aug 5 with 3075 views | Guthrum |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 06:59 - Aug 5 by Samuelowen88 |
Thank you.
Woken up to news that although it is currently raining around the dam the worse of the storm passed it by. |
Good news. |  |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 07:57 - Aug 5 with 3058 views | chicoazul |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 23:37 - Aug 4 by StokieBlue |
Shouldn't they be forcibly removed?
It's a mandatory evacuation for the safety of everyone. You have the right to put your life at risk but not others and that is what they are doing as the emergency services would be bound to try and rescue them in the event of collapse.
I do understand that forcibly removing them opens up all types of other questions though so it's tricky.
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You're at the beginning of a very slippery slope there. If it were me in that horrendous situation I would get my wife dog and kids out with our paperwork etc but stay in the house myself. |  |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 07:58 - Aug 5 with 3057 views | chicoazul |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 23:38 - Aug 4 by Samuelowen88 |
I live in one of the villages in line to get hit if the dam goes. We should be fine as high up but village would potentially get cut off.
A lot of the bridges are old and might not survive a large surge.
Loads of roads closed in case the worst happens so we are all having to use little back roads.
The train line is also shut for the same reason. So I'm having to drive to work.
Lots of extra police/ fire and army around. Quite a surely experience.
This 32 are idiots for various reasons. However what has bee great to see Is the support of crews from around the country turning up to help and the local communities help each other. Shops donating supplies / restaurants and take aways delivering bonkers amounts of gun to the emergency services and locals offering beds / child minding / looking after animals etc
So far the expected rain hasn't materialised, fingers crossed it doesn't. |
Good luck to you brother. | |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 09:04 - Aug 5 with 3015 views | StokieBlue |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 07:57 - Aug 5 by chicoazul |
You're at the beginning of a very slippery slope there. If it were me in that horrendous situation I would get my wife dog and kids out with our paperwork etc but stay in the house myself. |
I agree, hence I said it was a tricky situation.
If the emergency services just left them to their fate then obviously they can do what they like but they won't do that so they are putting others in potential danger.
Out of interest, why would you stay in the house?
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 09:06 - Aug 5 with 3006 views | chicoazul |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 09:04 - Aug 5 by StokieBlue |
I agree, hence I said it was a tricky situation.
If the emergency services just left them to their fate then obviously they can do what they like but they won't do that so they are putting others in potential danger.
Out of interest, why would you stay in the house?
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I'd be worried about burglars going for mine and my neighbour's houses, and i'd be worried about the other people (if there were any) staying behind, | |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 09:09 - Aug 5 with 2999 views | StokieBlue |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 09:06 - Aug 5 by chicoazul |
I'd be worried about burglars going for mine and my neighbour's houses, and i'd be worried about the other people (if there were any) staying behind, |
Fair enough.
I don't think I'd stay, in the end things can be replaced, your life can't.
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 09:11 - Aug 5 with 2992 views | Samuelowen88 |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 00:23 - Aug 5 by wellyblue |
I spend a lot of time in the Peak District and am very familiar with the area around Buxworth, Whaley Bridge and New Mills. A lovely part of the country and very friendly people. All being well I shall be up that way again on Thursday, I hope all goes well for yourself and the local communities. |
If you are up this way this week, just watch out. All the roads into New Mills are shut, as well as loads in the surrounding area. It's a pain in the ass. | |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 09:12 - Aug 5 with 2986 views | Swansea_Blue |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 21:36 - Aug 4 by ElderGrizzly |
My brother is a fireman and was saying if that was his patch, they would likely assess that it was not safe to go in and would leave them to figure it out themselves.
The selfishness of these 31 people, has also ended in 1500 people not being allowed to go back today and get pets, valuables etc as promised as the Police are worried a large number will refuse to leave |
I'd leave them to it too. Bloody idiots - if they're in the potential flood path, they've no idea what they'd be in for if it did break. Things are looking much better now though - hopefully the reservoir level is down enough to no longer be a risk. |  |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 09:13 - Aug 5 with 2983 views | chicoazul |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 09:09 - Aug 5 by StokieBlue |
Fair enough.
I don't think I'd stay, in the end things can be replaced, your life can't.
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Very true! | |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 11:12 - Aug 5 with 2903 views | Ryorry |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 21:36 - Aug 4 by ElderGrizzly |
My brother is a fireman and was saying if that was his patch, they would likely assess that it was not safe to go in and would leave them to figure it out themselves.
The selfishness of these 31 people, has also ended in 1500 people not being allowed to go back today and get pets, valuables etc as promised as the Police are worried a large number will refuse to leave |
Surely pet evacuation could be allowed/organised by other means, whether owners going in supervised by police, or vet nurses, RSPCA officers etc who'd have no vested interest in staying, being allowed in to rescue the animals?
If my dog were left alone in my house in that situation, I'd be trying illicit & possibly dangerous methods of trying to rescue him (eg sneaking round back roads or open country in the dark) rather than let him die a slow & painful death from dehydration. Better to allow people to do it in a safer way. | |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 21:52 - Aug 5 with 2760 views | Swansea_Blue |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 11:12 - Aug 5 by Ryorry |
Surely pet evacuation could be allowed/organised by other means, whether owners going in supervised by police, or vet nurses, RSPCA officers etc who'd have no vested interest in staying, being allowed in to rescue the animals?
If my dog were left alone in my house in that situation, I'd be trying illicit & possibly dangerous methods of trying to rescue him (eg sneaking round back roads or open country in the dark) rather than let him die a slow & painful death from dehydration. Better to allow people to do it in a safer way. |
Trouble is, if it does burst there would be no time to respond/escape. So it comes down to whether the life of the emergency service people helping a property/pet recovery is worth more or less than a pooch. As hard as it may be to hear it in those terms.
Hypothetical now thankfully, as the reservoir is well below a level that they’d be worried about. | |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 22:14 - Aug 5 with 2714 views | PhilTWTD |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 06:59 - Aug 5 by Samuelowen88 |
Thank you.
Woken up to news that although it is currently raining around the dam the worse of the storm passed it by. |
Good to hear it. Do you know Chapel-on-le-Frith? My mum was evacuated there during the war. Also lived in Buxton for a while. |  | | |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 22:26 - Aug 5 with 2687 views | Ryorry |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 21:52 - Aug 5 by Swansea_Blue |
Trouble is, if it does burst there would be no time to respond/escape. So it comes down to whether the life of the emergency service people helping a property/pet recovery is worth more or less than a pooch. As hard as it may be to hear it in those terms.
Hypothetical now thankfully, as the reservoir is well below a level that they’d be worried about. |
I'd go in myself on my tod then, and leave messages not to rescue me if the dam broke - I wouldn't be able to live with myself, leaving my dog in that situation.
Glad it's now hypothetical anyway! | |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 23:15 - Aug 5 with 2625 views | jeera |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 11:12 - Aug 5 by Ryorry |
Surely pet evacuation could be allowed/organised by other means, whether owners going in supervised by police, or vet nurses, RSPCA officers etc who'd have no vested interest in staying, being allowed in to rescue the animals?
If my dog were left alone in my house in that situation, I'd be trying illicit & possibly dangerous methods of trying to rescue him (eg sneaking round back roads or open country in the dark) rather than let him die a slow & painful death from dehydration. Better to allow people to do it in a safer way. |
Agree.
Nothing other than locking me up would stop me from getting to my dog[s].
I wouldn't want anyone else risking themselves but I'd be damned if I'd consider leaving them to their fate. |  |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 08:31 - Aug 6 with 2499 views | Samuelowen88 |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 22:14 - Aug 5 by PhilTWTD |
Good to hear it. Do you know Chapel-on-le-Frith? My mum was evacuated there during the war. Also lived in Buxton for a while. |
Yes, My in Laws live In Chinley (next village to Chapel), we go there quite often as there is a cracking Chinese there.
I also go climbing around there quite a bit.
Buxton just seems to have its own mico-climate. WE can all be warm and sunny and our friends there can be snowed in. | |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 08:34 - Aug 6 with 2492 views | Samuelowen88 |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 23:15 - Aug 5 by jeera |
Agree.
Nothing other than locking me up would stop me from getting to my dog[s].
I wouldn't want anyone else risking themselves but I'd be damned if I'd consider leaving them to their fate. |
There is a specialist pet/animal rescue team, that have been there since Saturday (maybe Friday).
If people couldnt get their animals they let them know, and they went in collected them and brought them out.
Lots of people locally have been offering up space for animals, from people with fields offering free stabling for horses, to people offering free rabbit housing. Been great to seen on social media. | |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 10:50 - Aug 6 with 2439 views | Ryorry |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 08:34 - Aug 6 by Samuelowen88 |
There is a specialist pet/animal rescue team, that have been there since Saturday (maybe Friday).
If people couldnt get their animals they let them know, and they went in collected them and brought them out.
Lots of people locally have been offering up space for animals, from people with fields offering free stabling for horses, to people offering free rabbit housing. Been great to seen on social media. |
That's just brilliant, hats off to them, well done! 👠â¤ï¸ 🾠| |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 18:22 - Aug 6 with 2364 views | caught-in-limbo |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 21:36 - Aug 4 by ElderGrizzly |
My brother is a fireman and was saying if that was his patch, they would likely assess that it was not safe to go in and would leave them to figure it out themselves.
The selfishness of these 31 people, has also ended in 1500 people not being allowed to go back today and get pets, valuables etc as promised as the Police are worried a large number will refuse to leave |
I'm not sure how 31 people refusing to leave affect 1500 people not being allowed to go back to rescue their pets. |  |
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| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 19:05 - Aug 6 with 2336 views | m14_blue |
| 22 households refuse to leave Whaley Bridge on 18:22 - Aug 6 by caught-in-limbo |
I'm not sure how 31 people refusing to leave affect 1500 people not being allowed to go back to rescue their pets. |
Once bitten, twice shy, for the authorities I guess. | | | |
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