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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. 10:23 - Aug 22 with 11724 viewsGlasgowBlue



Labour really need to dump Corbyn ASAP.

"History is made, sadly, by people who are bystanders and do nothing. Their inaction is an excuse and a cover for intolerance".
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:26 - Aug 22 with 2913 viewsSpruceMoose

Too many Labour members have swallowed the Kool Aid. It's more a cult than a party now.

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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:37 - Aug 22 with 2869 viewsKievthegreat

Worth pointing out that the Green Party, UKIP and the Brexit Party were not given as options for this survey. Hence they poll lower with Kantar than other pollsters.
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:38 - Aug 22 with 2867 viewsGlasgowBlue

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:26 - Aug 22 by SpruceMoose

Too many Labour members have swallowed the Kool Aid. It's more a cult than a party now.


In a poll out last week on who would make the best temporary PM of a unity government Corbyn came way behind Ken Clarke and Hattie Harman and only 2 points ahead of Swindon and Lucas.

Kier Starmer would be a credible alternative to Corbyn.

"History is made, sadly, by people who are bystanders and do nothing. Their inaction is an excuse and a cover for intolerance".
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:40 - Aug 22 with 2861 viewschicoazul

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:26 - Aug 22 by SpruceMoose

Too many Labour members have swallowed the Kool Aid. It's more a cult than a party now.


Yeah it's so weird how so many Labour party members want an avowedly-left wing leader. What are they thinking!

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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:40 - Aug 22 with 2853 viewsSteve_M

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:40 - Aug 22 by chicoazul

Yeah it's so weird how so many Labour party members want an avowedly-left wing leader. What are they thinking!


Supporting one who had some vague notion of competence about him might help their cause though.

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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:44 - Aug 22 with 2832 viewsGlasgowBlue

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:37 - Aug 22 by Kievthegreat

Worth pointing out that the Green Party, UKIP and the Brexit Party were not given as options for this survey. Hence they poll lower with Kantar than other pollsters.


It’s still part of a pattern in the polls




"History is made, sadly, by people who are bystanders and do nothing. Their inaction is an excuse and a cover for intolerance".
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:44 - Aug 22 with 2829 viewschicoazul

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:40 - Aug 22 by Steve_M

Supporting one who had some vague notion of competence about him might help their cause though.


Well he nearly won them the last election. I agree he's a knob if that's what youre saying but I dont agree that a) he is unelectable and b) the Members Spruce and others allude to are cultists for wanting a leader who bascially reflects most of the values of the Labour movement.

Words are a medium that reduces reality to abstraction for transmission to our reason, and in their power to corrode reality inevitably lurks the danger that the words will be corroded too. It might be more appropriate, in fact, to liken their action to excessive stomach fluids that digest and gradually eat away the stomach itself.
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:47 - Aug 22 with 2815 viewsGlasgowBlue

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:44 - Aug 22 by chicoazul

Well he nearly won them the last election. I agree he's a knob if that's what youre saying but I dont agree that a) he is unelectable and b) the Members Spruce and others allude to are cultists for wanting a leader who bascially reflects most of the values of the Labour movement.


That’s like saying a team nearly won a game because they only lost 1-0 rather than the expected 5-0 drubbing.

As for being unelectable. He’s lost a general election, three rounds of council elections and the EU elections.

"History is made, sadly, by people who are bystanders and do nothing. Their inaction is an excuse and a cover for intolerance".
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:48 - Aug 22 with 2814 viewsfooters

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:44 - Aug 22 by chicoazul

Well he nearly won them the last election. I agree he's a knob if that's what youre saying but I dont agree that a) he is unelectable and b) the Members Spruce and others allude to are cultists for wanting a leader who bascially reflects most of the values of the Labour movement.


Indeed. A socialist leader of a socialist party. How odd. Perhaps instead of grumbling about Corbz, these pearl clutching disaffected types should just swallow the sh1t and vote Labour regardless, much like when we had to for the 'New Labour' project.

Just a thought.

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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:48 - Aug 22 with 2809 viewsSteve_M

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:44 - Aug 22 by chicoazul

Well he nearly won them the last election. I agree he's a knob if that's what youre saying but I dont agree that a) he is unelectable and b) the Members Spruce and others allude to are cultists for wanting a leader who bascially reflects most of the values of the Labour movement.


The Labour movement isn't, and never has been, just the left though. It's always been a broader coalition.

And elections aren't normally won without appealing to the centre.

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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:50 - Aug 22 with 2792 viewschicoazul

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:48 - Aug 22 by Steve_M

The Labour movement isn't, and never has been, just the left though. It's always been a broader coalition.

And elections aren't normally won without appealing to the centre.


And I broadly agree with all that, although I would like you to show me some right wing Labour politicians. I just don't think their members are "Cultists".

Words are a medium that reduces reality to abstraction for transmission to our reason, and in their power to corrode reality inevitably lurks the danger that the words will be corroded too. It might be more appropriate, in fact, to liken their action to excessive stomach fluids that digest and gradually eat away the stomach itself.
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:53 - Aug 22 with 2782 viewschicoazul

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:47 - Aug 22 by GlasgowBlue

That’s like saying a team nearly won a game because they only lost 1-0 rather than the expected 5-0 drubbing.

As for being unelectable. He’s lost a general election, three rounds of council elections and the EU elections.


He narrowly lost the Gen Elec, let's be fair, and it's pretty much a hung parliament where nothing can be done. Who cares about council elections really in the grand scheme of things? Labour run plenty of councils.
The Maximum Leader is a lifelong campaigner and is very good at it. When the GE comes - and youre right, one is very much on the way - I think he will surprise a lot of people once again.

Words are a medium that reduces reality to abstraction for transmission to our reason, and in their power to corrode reality inevitably lurks the danger that the words will be corroded too. It might be more appropriate, in fact, to liken their action to excessive stomach fluids that digest and gradually eat away the stomach itself.
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:53 - Aug 22 with 2776 viewsGlasgowBlue

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:48 - Aug 22 by footers

Indeed. A socialist leader of a socialist party. How odd. Perhaps instead of grumbling about Corbz, these pearl clutching disaffected types should just swallow the sh1t and vote Labour regardless, much like when we had to for the 'New Labour' project.

Just a thought.


Attlee was a socialist. He was also one of the founding fathers of NATO, developed the UK’s nuclear deterrent and forged strong links with his natural allies in the west.

Corbyn's Problem with the wider electorate isn’t his socialism.
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"History is made, sadly, by people who are bystanders and do nothing. Their inaction is an excuse and a cover for intolerance".
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:55 - Aug 22 with 2767 viewschicoazul

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:48 - Aug 22 by footers

Indeed. A socialist leader of a socialist party. How odd. Perhaps instead of grumbling about Corbz, these pearl clutching disaffected types should just swallow the sh1t and vote Labour regardless, much like when we had to for the 'New Labour' project.

Just a thought.


I think the problem the Maximum Leader has is he seems a lot less business friendly and big on higher personal taxes than say Blair or Brown, both of whom think the same as he does more or less about most of the issues the Labour Party are traditionally concerned with.

Words are a medium that reduces reality to abstraction for transmission to our reason, and in their power to corrode reality inevitably lurks the danger that the words will be corroded too. It might be more appropriate, in fact, to liken their action to excessive stomach fluids that digest and gradually eat away the stomach itself.
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:57 - Aug 22 with 2759 viewsfooters

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:53 - Aug 22 by GlasgowBlue

Attlee was a socialist. He was also one of the founding fathers of NATO, developed the UK’s nuclear deterrent and forged strong links with his natural allies in the west.

Corbyn's Problem with the wider electorate isn’t his socialism.
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I think his socialism is exactly why he gets such bad press. It happened to Wilson, happened to Foot and now it's happening to Corbyn. The message is clear: follow in the Blair/Cameron mould or be forever 'unelectable' through the lens of the press.

I'm not saying he doesn't have his baggage, but it's exacerbated to such an extent by the press for obvious reason.

"We need a man in charge of boys, they wont like it up em, but they'd rather it be coming from their gaffer than those broom wrangling wannabes in league 1."
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:57 - Aug 22 with 2755 viewschicoazul

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:53 - Aug 22 by GlasgowBlue

Attlee was a socialist. He was also one of the founding fathers of NATO, developed the UK’s nuclear deterrent and forged strong links with his natural allies in the west.

Corbyn's Problem with the wider electorate isn’t his socialism.
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The left now is closely identified with pacifism and against patriotism. The kind of people you mention there - muscular left wing patriots who believe in defence & national borders - dont really exist much anymore at the high levels within the Labour Party.

EDIT; assuming you mean Attlee?
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Words are a medium that reduces reality to abstraction for transmission to our reason, and in their power to corrode reality inevitably lurks the danger that the words will be corroded too. It might be more appropriate, in fact, to liken their action to excessive stomach fluids that digest and gradually eat away the stomach itself.
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 11:00 - Aug 22 with 2734 viewsfooters

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:55 - Aug 22 by chicoazul

I think the problem the Maximum Leader has is he seems a lot less business friendly and big on higher personal taxes than say Blair or Brown, both of whom think the same as he does more or less about most of the issues the Labour Party are traditionally concerned with.


When 'business friendly' these days basically translates to simply lowering corporate tax rates even further and more deregulation I can well understand it. How did UK plc ever do business 30 or 40 years ago? How come companies didn't flee with such exorbitant taxation?

Spruce talks of people swallowing the Kool Aid, but I'm not sure we're talking about the same people.

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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 11:00 - Aug 22 with 2727 viewsDarth_Koont

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:26 - Aug 22 by SpruceMoose

Too many Labour members have swallowed the Kool Aid. It's more a cult than a party now.


Actually, I think too many have drunk the Kool Aid where Corbyn and genuine social democratic policies have become "dangerous" and "unelectable".

Which is objectively ridiculous, especially when you see where the supposedly non-dangerous and electable right aided and abetted by the centre have taken our society over the past decade or more.
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 11:03 - Aug 22 with 2703 viewsDarth_Koont

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:57 - Aug 22 by footers

I think his socialism is exactly why he gets such bad press. It happened to Wilson, happened to Foot and now it's happening to Corbyn. The message is clear: follow in the Blair/Cameron mould or be forever 'unelectable' through the lens of the press.

I'm not saying he doesn't have his baggage, but it's exacerbated to such an extent by the press for obvious reason.


Indeed. It's been as clear as day from the very start of his leadership.
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 11:03 - Aug 22 with 2706 viewsGlasgowBlue

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:57 - Aug 22 by chicoazul

The left now is closely identified with pacifism and against patriotism. The kind of people you mention there - muscular left wing patriots who believe in defence & national borders - dont really exist much anymore at the high levels within the Labour Party.

EDIT; assuming you mean Attlee?
[Post edited 22 Aug 11:01]


Edited. Predictive text in my phone.

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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 11:04 - Aug 22 with 2696 viewsSteve_M

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:55 - Aug 22 by chicoazul

I think the problem the Maximum Leader has is he seems a lot less business friendly and big on higher personal taxes than say Blair or Brown, both of whom think the same as he does more or less about most of the issues the Labour Party are traditionally concerned with.


Which issues do you think Corbyn's thinking is aligned with that of Brown let alone Blair?

Corbyn is part of a hard-left that is more concerned with anti-imperialism (but only Western imperialism) than anything else. And Corbyn's lack of electability comes down to far more than an anti-business stance (which wasn't that strong in the 2017 manifesto anyway).

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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 11:29 - Aug 22 with 2603 viewsbrazil1982

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:53 - Aug 22 by chicoazul

He narrowly lost the Gen Elec, let's be fair, and it's pretty much a hung parliament where nothing can be done. Who cares about council elections really in the grand scheme of things? Labour run plenty of councils.
The Maximum Leader is a lifelong campaigner and is very good at it. When the GE comes - and youre right, one is very much on the way - I think he will surprise a lot of people once again.


Very good at campaigning? No he isn't. What has he achieved in his career?
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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 11:30 - Aug 22 with 2593 viewsBrixtonBlue

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 10:53 - Aug 22 by chicoazul

He narrowly lost the Gen Elec, let's be fair, and it's pretty much a hung parliament where nothing can be done. Who cares about council elections really in the grand scheme of things? Labour run plenty of councils.
The Maximum Leader is a lifelong campaigner and is very good at it. When the GE comes - and youre right, one is very much on the way - I think he will surprise a lot of people once again.


Nah, Glassers has a poll that shows Labour losing, might as well not bother having an election.

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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 11:37 - Aug 22 with 2558 viewsGlasgowBlue

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 11:30 - Aug 22 by BrixtonBlue

Nah, Glassers has a poll that shows Labour losing, might as well not bother having an election.


More than one poll dear boy. More than one poll.

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This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 11:41 - Aug 22 with 2539 viewsBrixtonBlue

This latest poll will make an election far more likely sooner rather than later. on 11:37 - Aug 22 by GlasgowBlue

More than one poll dear boy. More than one poll.


I know the reason you post these polls is part of the narrative of undermining Corbyn at every turn... get it into people's heads that he's a loser and therefore not worth backing. A self-fulfilling prophecy.

Why don't you, you know, just for a change, talk about his policies? I wouldn't even mind if you slated them. At least you'd be engaging with them instead of this dirty underhand stuff all the time.

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