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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern 14:24 - Aug 28 with 633 viewsJimInGreensboro

By definition, Conservatives do not focus on how to govern. That is why they rarely have any ideas on how to move forward, for that would be "progressive". Instead, they focus on ways to limit or dismantle government. This move by Boris, therefore, should come as no surprise.
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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:28 - Aug 28 with 613 viewsDarth_Koont

Probably more accurate about US conservatism over the years but yes, with the current lot we're well into that type of thinking.

They're absolute loons who know nothing (and care even less) about how the world actually works nowadays and what the major social and economic challenges are.
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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:29 - Aug 28 with 601 viewsGlasgowBlue

Conservative governments are usually voted in to clear up the financial mess left by the previous labour government. After a few years in power they run out of ideas and turn on each other.

This cycle is repeated every 10-15 years.

"History is made, sadly, by people who are bystanders and do nothing. Their inaction is an excuse and a cover for intolerance".
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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:33 - Aug 28 with 584 viewsDarth_Koont

By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:29 - Aug 28 by GlasgowBlue

Conservative governments are usually voted in to clear up the financial mess left by the previous labour government. After a few years in power they run out of ideas and turn on each other.

This cycle is repeated every 10-15 years.


That's the myth but Conservative governments actually spend more on less.

The cycle is just them repeatedly telling people they know what they're doing either in government or in opposition. Even if that's just the global economy at work.

Their actual record of social and economic management is very poor.
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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:40 - Aug 28 with 545 viewsGlasgowBlue

By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:33 - Aug 28 by Darth_Koont

That's the myth but Conservative governments actually spend more on less.

The cycle is just them repeatedly telling people they know what they're doing either in government or in opposition. Even if that's just the global economy at work.

Their actual record of social and economic management is very poor.


I said they were voted in to clean up the mess left. I didn’t say whether they succeeded or not.

"History is made, sadly, by people who are bystanders and do nothing. Their inaction is an excuse and a cover for intolerance".
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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:48 - Aug 28 with 533 viewsDarth_Koont

By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:40 - Aug 28 by GlasgowBlue

I said they were voted in to clean up the mess left. I didn’t say whether they succeeded or not.


Agreed. Why be an actual solution or indeed better at financial management when slimy and disingenuous politics and propaganda will get you the gig?

It's their inability to deal with the real world and its real challenges (and, let's be honest, a lack of interest or concern) that has gotten us into such a mess.
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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:51 - Aug 28 with 514 viewshampstead_blue

By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:29 - Aug 28 by GlasgowBlue

Conservative governments are usually voted in to clear up the financial mess left by the previous labour government. After a few years in power they run out of ideas and turn on each other.

This cycle is repeated every 10-15 years.


Careful......there are bears in them there woods.......

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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:55 - Aug 28 with 503 viewsNo9

By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:29 - Aug 28 by GlasgowBlue

Conservative governments are usually voted in to clear up the financial mess left by the previous labour government. After a few years in power they run out of ideas and turn on each other.

This cycle is repeated every 10-15 years.


One eye only?

http://www.primeeconomics.org/articles/conservative-budget-deficits-on-average-t

Once again you are handling the truth carelessly, or worse
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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:58 - Aug 28 with 495 viewshampstead_blue

Being a politician is 'the' thankless task.

We've got this lot for lots of reasons, many of our (the voters) own desire.

One example is pay.
If the PM only gets £150k then what do you expect?

I know builders who earn more.

An MP gets £80k.......

Ok so you're now to going to tell me all about their expenses etc. Well I am talking salary here.

To get a better standard you have to pay a LOT more. I'm talking £150k starting wage.
It's a really tough and hard job. Anyone who thinks they swan around is talking gumph.

You pay for what you get.

Oh, Public Service? That argument only goes a short distance. Pay proper wages for real talent and we will all live in a much better country.

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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:58 - Aug 28 with 491 viewsNo9

By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:29 - Aug 28 by GlasgowBlue

Conservative governments are usually voted in to clear up the financial mess left by the previous labour government. After a few years in power they run out of ideas and turn on each other.

This cycle is repeated every 10-15 years.


Not so-
https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/11/27/the-tories-created-two-thirds-of-
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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 15:01 - Aug 28 with 483 viewsDarth_Koont

By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:58 - Aug 28 by hampstead_blue

Being a politician is 'the' thankless task.

We've got this lot for lots of reasons, many of our (the voters) own desire.

One example is pay.
If the PM only gets £150k then what do you expect?

I know builders who earn more.

An MP gets £80k.......

Ok so you're now to going to tell me all about their expenses etc. Well I am talking salary here.

To get a better standard you have to pay a LOT more. I'm talking £150k starting wage.
It's a really tough and hard job. Anyone who thinks they swan around is talking gumph.

You pay for what you get.

Oh, Public Service? That argument only goes a short distance. Pay proper wages for real talent and we will all live in a much better country.


What are you talking about?

They ARE public fecking servants. We're so used to them serving anyone but the public we think they should be rewarded like bankers with the same erroneous judgements about their actual talents and what they deserve.

This country ...
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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 15:03 - Aug 28 with 476 viewsSpruceMoose

By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 14:58 - Aug 28 by hampstead_blue

Being a politician is 'the' thankless task.

We've got this lot for lots of reasons, many of our (the voters) own desire.

One example is pay.
If the PM only gets £150k then what do you expect?

I know builders who earn more.

An MP gets £80k.......

Ok so you're now to going to tell me all about their expenses etc. Well I am talking salary here.

To get a better standard you have to pay a LOT more. I'm talking £150k starting wage.
It's a really tough and hard job. Anyone who thinks they swan around is talking gumph.

You pay for what you get.

Oh, Public Service? That argument only goes a short distance. Pay proper wages for real talent and we will all live in a much better country.


Again, it appears the intelligence agencies have a very low entry standard.

Worried.

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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 17:17 - Aug 28 with 384 viewshampstead_blue

By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 15:01 - Aug 28 by Darth_Koont

What are you talking about?

They ARE public fecking servants. We're so used to them serving anyone but the public we think they should be rewarded like bankers with the same erroneous judgements about their actual talents and what they deserve.

This country ...


my point is to pay them in accordance to the job.

It's bonkers to expect the most talented people to earn that wage when they can treble it for less hours, less scrutiny, no grief, no hassle.

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By definition, "Conservatives" do not know how to govern on 17:21 - Aug 28 with 372 viewsjas0999

Sadly, the alternative is also bleak. I won’t vote for either the Tories or Corbyn led Labour.
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