| Bolton's business 16:58 - Sep 2 with 6161 views | Mullet |
Jack Hobbs, Liam Bridcutt, Will Buckley and a Belgian winger from Stoke thus far.
They're dead and buried aren't they, but it will be interesting to see how Hill uses these players and what effect it has on their results. The incessant 5 nil batterings will cease fairly quickly I assume.
Do you think there will be issues if us or Gillingham pip someone to promotion or relegation GD? I can see it being like the Blunts and West Ham over Tevez and Mascherano a lot of hand wringing and a token challenge which is dismissed. |  |
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| Bolton's business on 17:00 - Sep 2 with 4948 views | Kieran_Knows |
I think they'll still sign several more, although probably not of the quality that will keep them up. 2 or 3 players are having their contracts cancelled at their clubs today (Joe Bunney & Ali Crawford) which will allow them to move after the 5pm deadline today. |  |
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| Bolton's business on 17:00 - Sep 2 with 4948 views | SitfcB |
Jake Wright on loan from Sheff U now as well.
I reckon they’ll beat the drop. |  |
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| Bolton's business on 17:01 - Sep 2 with 4922 views | wkj |
| Bolton's business on 17:00 - Sep 2 by SitfcB |
Jake Wright on loan from Sheff U now as well.
I reckon they’ll beat the drop. |
Tbf there are some names cropping up that I k ow we'd have been clamouring for in the Championship |  |
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| Bolton's business on 17:02 - Sep 2 with 4915 views | Mullet |
| Bolton's business on 17:00 - Sep 2 by SitfcB |
Jake Wright on loan from Sheff U now as well.
I reckon they’ll beat the drop. |
Would be fascinating if these new players have a big bonus for that in their contracts. | |
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| Bolton's business on 17:38 - Sep 2 with 4584 views | TractorCam |
| Bolton's business on 17:00 - Sep 2 by SitfcB |
Jake Wright on loan from Sheff U now as well.
I reckon they’ll beat the drop. |
They have 41 games to get to know each other, gel as a team, understand what the manager wants and make up 15 points. They will make a rise over time but can't see it, will probably take over Southend if that clown they have stays any longer. |  |
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| Bolton's business on 17:39 - Sep 2 with 4578 views | kizaitfc |
Doubt these players are on small wages though
Are they not in danger of being in the exact same problem in 6 months time?
Assume there is still a fine or a points deduction coming for the game they postponed too |  |
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| Bolton's business on 18:00 - Sep 2 with 4402 views | GeoffSentence |
| Bolton's business on 17:39 - Sep 2 by kizaitfc |
Doubt these players are on small wages though
Are they not in danger of being in the exact same problem in 6 months time?
Assume there is still a fine or a points deduction coming for the game they postponed too |
and there should be a penalty for the game they didn't play at the end of last season. |  |
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| Bolton's business on 18:01 - Sep 2 with 4392 views | OwainG1992 |
| Bolton's business on 18:00 - Sep 2 by GeoffSentence |
and there should be a penalty for the game they didn't play at the end of last season. |
They have signed josh emmanuel |  |
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| Bolton's business on 18:04 - Sep 2 with 4363 views | ElderGrizzly |
And funded by a very dubious looking takeover package
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| Bolton's business on 18:16 - Sep 2 with 4223 views | MattinLondon |
| Bolton's business on 17:39 - Sep 2 by kizaitfc |
Doubt these players are on small wages though
Are they not in danger of being in the exact same problem in 6 months time?
Assume there is still a fine or a points deduction coming for the game they postponed too |
Overspending Bolton try to stay up by spending a lot. |  | | |
| Bolton's business on 18:23 - Sep 2 with 4144 views | SitfcB |
Murphy confirmed as well now and that’s it.
He will score goals in this league, and plenty of them.
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| Bolton's business on 18:25 - Sep 2 with 4099 views | bournemouthblue |
| Bolton's business on 17:38 - Sep 2 by TractorCam |
They have 41 games to get to know each other, gel as a team, understand what the manager wants and make up 15 points. They will make a rise over time but can't see it, will probably take over Southend if that clown they have stays any longer. |
They going to need to be getting around
60 points in 38 games? That is some going, not to mention all the upheaval with their squad etc |  |
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| Bolton's business on 18:44 - Sep 2 with 3964 views | SitfcB |
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| Bolton's business on 18:46 - Sep 2 with 3939 views | wkj |
| Bolton's business on 18:44 - Sep 2 by SitfcB |
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In all honesty given the time he had at his disposal, there are some impressive names on that list to be fiar, a few who would handle the championship perfectly well too. | |
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| Bolton's business on 19:19 - Sep 2 with 3755 views | pointofblue |
| Bolton's business on 18:44 - Sep 2 by SitfcB |
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So their new XI: Matthews, Emmanuel, Earl, Hobbs, Wright, Verlinden, Buckley, L Murphy, Lowe, Crawford, D Murphy
That's pretty decent XI at this level but the EFL have left themselves open to a bit of controversy now - Gillingham, ourselves, Tranmere, Coventry (*cough*) and Wycombe have faced a much easier line up than the rest of the division will. [Post edited 2 Sep 2019 23:25]
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| Bolton's business on 19:25 - Sep 2 with 3713 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
What is there to challenge over?
A team that had no players has signed some players. To a lesser degree it happens every transfer window and is the nature of having an option for transfers to occur during the season.
The more intriguing thing is what are they hoping to achieve? Those players are not building for a promotion challenge from League 2 next season, they would have to go some to avoid relegation with only 11 decent players between now and January.
They are also due 2 further punishments from the EFL for calling off games (last season and this season). |  |
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| Bolton's business on 19:29 - Sep 2 with 3681 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Bolton's business on 18:25 - Sep 2 by bournemouthblue |
They going to need to be getting around
60 points in 38 games? That is some going, not to mention all the upheaval with their squad etc |
It’s not that many points at this level though really - and it may be even less given Bury’s demise meaning they only need to finish 4th bottom. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see them do it |  |
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| Bolton's business on 19:31 - Sep 2 with 3671 views | hoppy |
| Bolton's business on 19:19 - Sep 2 by pointofblue |
So their new XI: Matthews, Emmanuel, Earl, Hobbs, Wright, Verlinden, Buckley, L Murphy, Lowe, Crawford, D Murphy
That's pretty decent XI at this level but the EFL have left themselves open to a bit of controversy now - Gillingham, ourselves, Tranmere, Coventry (*cough*) and Wycombe have faced a much easier line up than the rest of the division will. [Post edited 2 Sep 2019 23:25]
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But that could be the case in any transfer window - irrespective of the problems, if one team splashes the cash on transfer deadline day, and games they've already played would've fielded weaker sides than they're then able to do. |  |
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| Bolton's business on 19:34 - Sep 2 with 3646 views | pointofblue |
| Bolton's business on 19:25 - Sep 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
What is there to challenge over?
A team that had no players has signed some players. To a lesser degree it happens every transfer window and is the nature of having an option for transfers to occur during the season.
The more intriguing thing is what are they hoping to achieve? Those players are not building for a promotion challenge from League 2 next season, they would have to go some to avoid relegation with only 11 decent players between now and January.
They are also due 2 further punishments from the EFL for calling off games (last season and this season). |
It's the discrepancy between the two squads though - the first five teams they faced played against an academy squad (excluding Matthews, L Murphy, Lowe and, in Gillingham's case, Hobbs) whilst the remaining seventeen will play a team made up of experienced professionals twice. If Goal Difference or maybe a small points differential decides something this year...
I suppose they've bought them in to at least leave League One with some dignity. Perhaps they really think they can overhaul the eleven points and then some though it does look unlikely - I guess they have to try. As you say, I can't imagine many of those players dropping to League Two. | |
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| Bolton's business on 19:35 - Sep 2 with 3627 views | Dubtractor |
| Bolton's business on 17:39 - Sep 2 by kizaitfc |
Doubt these players are on small wages though
Are they not in danger of being in the exact same problem in 6 months time?
Assume there is still a fine or a points deduction coming for the game they postponed too |
I dunno, if that list of players were good enough to demand good wages I suspect that they wouldn't have ended up at Bolton on deadline day. |  |
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| Bolton's business on 19:40 - Sep 2 with 3586 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Bolton's business on 19:29 - Sep 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
It’s not that many points at this level though really - and it may be even less given Bury’s demise meaning they only need to finish 4th bottom. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see them do it |
Last season 50 points was enough - just over a point per game. With this season being 44 matches that means around 47 points should be enough. That means they would need to gain 58 points from their next 39 matches plus make up whatever penalty the EFL apply for their 2 matches they called off without permission.
Without any further penalty they would need around 1.5 points per game which is pretty much play-off form. Can you imagine any side doing that with a squad of around 15 players, regardless of whether they include Josh Emmanuel and a 36-year-old Daryl Murphy? | |
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| Bolton's business on 19:42 - Sep 2 with 3562 views | wkj |
| Bolton's business on 19:19 - Sep 2 by pointofblue |
So their new XI: Matthews, Emmanuel, Earl, Hobbs, Wright, Verlinden, Buckley, L Murphy, Lowe, Crawford, D Murphy
That's pretty decent XI at this level but the EFL have left themselves open to a bit of controversy now - Gillingham, ourselves, Tranmere, Coventry (*cough*) and Wycombe have faced a much easier line up than the rest of the division will. [Post edited 2 Sep 2019 23:25]
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Technically, they had the same transfer window as the rest of the league too, no special rules were put in place to allow them to team build. Even though Bolton had some extraordinary circumstances, any other team in the league could have made 9 signings on the deadline day. | |
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| Bolton's business on 19:56 - Sep 2 with 3488 views | MrTown |
| Bolton's business on 18:04 - Sep 2 by ElderGrizzly |
And funded by a very dubious looking takeover package
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No real dubious action there, Sharon Brittan is the leading figure in the consortium. For her to take out a loan to a company merely means that she doesn't have to pay tax on the interest payback.
Nick Luckock is a partner at HgCapital. Venture Capitalist and Private Equity Firm. |  |
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| Bolton's business on 19:56 - Sep 2 with 3490 views | Mullet |
| Bolton's business on 19:25 - Sep 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
What is there to challenge over?
A team that had no players has signed some players. To a lesser degree it happens every transfer window and is the nature of having an option for transfers to occur during the season.
The more intriguing thing is what are they hoping to achieve? Those players are not building for a promotion challenge from League 2 next season, they would have to go some to avoid relegation with only 11 decent players between now and January.
They are also due 2 further punishments from the EFL for calling off games (last season and this season). |
I think teams will find plenty. The takeover, the lack of punishment from not fulfilling their last fixture, the allowances made to ensure they don't fail etc. I'm not saying they'd be justified in doing so, but in a game like football with money at stake you can see clubs chancing their arm if it costs them a status in any division.
As much as we've all got goodwill for them not doing a Bury, there are plenty of fans who begrudge the Shakers and Bolton their status as it affected them directly in terms of being denied promotion or revenue. If Bolton are in anyway successful this season then I can foresee it ruffling feathers. | |
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| Bolton's business on 20:01 - Sep 2 with 3442 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Bolton's business on 19:56 - Sep 2 by Mullet |
I think teams will find plenty. The takeover, the lack of punishment from not fulfilling their last fixture, the allowances made to ensure they don't fail etc. I'm not saying they'd be justified in doing so, but in a game like football with money at stake you can see clubs chancing their arm if it costs them a status in any division.
As much as we've all got goodwill for them not doing a Bury, there are plenty of fans who begrudge the Shakers and Bolton their status as it affected them directly in terms of being denied promotion or revenue. If Bolton are in anyway successful this season then I can foresee it ruffling feathers. |
Ah, so a team that is relegated challenging the EFL's lack of action against them - I misunderstood and thought you meant some sort of challenge against us having gained easy points.
I can't see them staying up even with the EFL not taking action (I hope they do and take stern enough to discourage other teams from doing it). | |
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