| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem 22:37 - Sep 4 with 7467 views | Bluedandy |
... appears to imply, possibly rightly, that parliament derives its sovereignty from the people and therefore does not possess a divine right to defy the biggest democratic mandate in British political history.
Recent shenanigans are not really about blocking no deal, it's all about blocking Brexit and parliamentarians are hoping millions of working-class people are just too stupid to work it out.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/03/today-was-a-very-dark-day-for-british-d |  | | |  |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 22:42 - Sep 4 with 3700 views | Herbivore |
Spiked? Lol. |  |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 22:43 - Sep 4 with 3708 views | factual_blue |
There is no historical evidence to support the notion that parliamentary sovereignty in England (or indeed Britain) derives from the people. Over several hundred years the balance of power between the monarch, the Lords and the Commons has moved in favour of the Commons because politicians in the Commons have made it thus. |  |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 22:48 - Sep 4 with 3691 views | mr_bean |
"biggest democratic mandate in British political history"
That's one way of looking at it.
Another way of looking at it is that it was a 52% to 48% split, which is far too narrow to authorise such a seismic constitutional upheaval as brexit. With a split that narrow, the outcome was only ever going to be the protracted and bitter wrangling that we find ourselves embroiled in. | | | |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 23:26 - Sep 4 with 3600 views | BlueBadger |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 22:48 - Sep 4 by mr_bean |
"biggest democratic mandate in British political history"
That's one way of looking at it.
Another way of looking at it is that it was a 52% to 48% split, which is far too narrow to authorise such a seismic constitutional upheaval as brexit. With a split that narrow, the outcome was only ever going to be the protracted and bitter wrangling that we find ourselves embroiled in. |
Particularly when you factor in the illegal activities of the Leave campaign. |  |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 23:27 - Sep 4 with 3595 views | BlueBadger |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 22:42 - Sep 4 by Herbivore |
Spiked? Lol. |
Come on now, that's nearly as credible a news source as The Canary or Breitbart. | |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 23:31 - Sep 4 with 3600 views | SomethingBlue |
I think millions of working-class people are now tuning into the fact that they've been misled by a bunch of multimillionaire gangsters who literally detest them. | |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 23:33 - Sep 4 with 3584 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 22:48 - Sep 4 by mr_bean |
"biggest democratic mandate in British political history"
That's one way of looking at it.
Another way of looking at it is that it was a 52% to 48% split, which is far too narrow to authorise such a seismic constitutional upheaval as brexit. With a split that narrow, the outcome was only ever going to be the protracted and bitter wrangling that we find ourselves embroiled in. |
"biggest democratic mandate in British political history"
If we are talking about referendums, the 1975 one on staying in the EEC had a larger mandate. |  | | |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 23:39 - Sep 4 with 3564 views | gordon |
This legislation does absolutely nothing to prevent Johnson from bringing back and passing the deal he says he wants and is making good progress on with the EU. |  | | |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 08:25 - Sep 5 with 3349 views | homer_123 |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 23:39 - Sep 4 by gordon |
This legislation does absolutely nothing to prevent Johnson from bringing back and passing the deal he says he wants and is making good progress on with the EU. |
Also - am I correct in thinking that the bill that passed last night and that could go through Monday could simply be repelled by a new incoming government.
In short, should Boris win the election with a majority, he can simply remove it.
I know that the liklihood of the Tories winning and winning with the majority is slim to none but.....well.....Trump, Corbyn etc etc |  |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 08:28 - Sep 5 with 3339 views | Herbivore |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 08:25 - Sep 5 by homer_123 |
Also - am I correct in thinking that the bill that passed last night and that could go through Monday could simply be repelled by a new incoming government.
In short, should Boris win the election with a majority, he can simply remove it.
I know that the liklihood of the Tories winning and winning with the majority is slim to none but.....well.....Trump, Corbyn etc etc |
He could, but Labour have now shifted their position to wait until Boris comes back from the EU with or more likely without a deal and the extension then has to be triggered. That will ruin him. | |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 08:39 - Sep 5 with 3315 views | homer_123 |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 08:28 - Sep 5 by Herbivore |
He could, but Labour have now shifted their position to wait until Boris comes back from the EU with or more likely without a deal and the extension then has to be triggered. That will ruin him. |
Doesn't he have the option to call an election with a simple majority though - which is an option I'm sure he's exploring.
"No 10 could introduce a simple vote where they would only need a majority of one, or in a more extreme circumstance, hold a vote of no-confidence in itself, that Labour might find hard to stand against." [Post edited 5 Sep 2019 8:40]
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 08:41 - Sep 5 with 3299 views | Herbivore |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 08:39 - Sep 5 by homer_123 |
Doesn't he have the option to call an election with a simple majority though - which is an option I'm sure he's exploring.
"No 10 could introduce a simple vote where they would only need a majority of one, or in a more extreme circumstance, hold a vote of no-confidence in itself, that Labour might find hard to stand against." [Post edited 5 Sep 2019 8:40]
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He does, but he won't get one if Labour and the other opposition parties stay united. Fewer than 300 MPs voted for a GE last night. | |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 08:43 - Sep 5 with 3294 views | WD19 |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 22:48 - Sep 4 by mr_bean |
"biggest democratic mandate in British political history"
That's one way of looking at it.
Another way of looking at it is that it was a 52% to 48% split, which is far too narrow to authorise such a seismic constitutional upheaval as brexit. With a split that narrow, the outcome was only ever going to be the protracted and bitter wrangling that we find ourselves embroiled in. |
Good luck arguing that with Wee Jimmy Krankie when the Scots inevitably vote for independence on a similar split. |  | | |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 08:48 - Sep 5 with 3279 views | giant_stow |
It is indeed interesting to read how dom will be making his case online. |  |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 08:52 - Sep 5 with 3259 views | homer_123 |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 08:41 - Sep 5 by Herbivore |
He does, but he won't get one if Labour and the other opposition parties stay united. Fewer than 300 MPs voted for a GE last night. |
Not entirely confident that's the case. | |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 09:02 - Sep 5 with 3219 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 08:41 - Sep 5 by Herbivore |
He does, but he won't get one if Labour and the other opposition parties stay united. Fewer than 300 MPs voted for a GE last night. |
The problem Boris faces isn't that he would be voted down but that the bill would be ammended and the GE would be later than he wants. |  |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 09:22 - Sep 5 with 3135 views | Herbivore |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 22:42 - Sep 4 by Herbivore |
Spiked? Lol. |
Oh lowie, surely you're not a fan of Spiked now? | |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 09:29 - Sep 5 with 3130 views | BlueinBrum |
Hahaha check your sources before presenting this as some kind of impartial analysis |  | | |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 10:00 - Sep 5 with 3089 views | brazil1982 |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 23:26 - Sep 4 by BlueBadger |
Particularly when you factor in the illegal activities of the Leave campaign. |
The Remain campaign also had dubious spending practices. | | | |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 10:11 - Sep 5 with 3053 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 10:00 - Sep 5 by brazil1982 |
The Remain campaign also had dubious spending practices. |
True enough - both sides were slapped with fines around spending returns. Look at the details though and you're comparing chalk with cheese, with regards to nature of the misdemeanors, where the donations were coming from and level of criminal activity.
There should be no excuse for any misdemeanors, on either side, but tit's obviuously quite stacked in scale and seriousness on the Leave side - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_campaigning_in_the_2016_EU_referendum |  |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 10:13 - Sep 5 with 3040 views | tabletopjoe |
Having an 'unwritten constitution' actually means that you are always guided by the morality of the people. We're doomed. |  |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 10:18 - Sep 5 with 3004 views | connorscontract |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 22:43 - Sep 4 by factual_blue |
There is no historical evidence to support the notion that parliamentary sovereignty in England (or indeed Britain) derives from the people. Over several hundred years the balance of power between the monarch, the Lords and the Commons has moved in favour of the Commons because politicians in the Commons have made it thus. |
In English Law all Sovereignty derives from the Monarch.
Anyone here own their own house?
No you don't, you own the Freehold to enjoy it, subject to the pleasure of the Monarch.
Anyone here consider themselves free?
Well, you may be, until such time as you are detained at Her Majesty's Pleasure.
Anyone here found an Anglo-Saxon hoard?
Sorry, you don't own it, but Her Majesty may grant you a partial finders fee through one of her Coroners.
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 10:21 - Sep 5 with 2985 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 10:18 - Sep 5 by connorscontract |
In English Law all Sovereignty derives from the Monarch.
Anyone here own their own house?
No you don't, you own the Freehold to enjoy it, subject to the pleasure of the Monarch.
Anyone here consider themselves free?
Well, you may be, until such time as you are detained at Her Majesty's Pleasure.
Anyone here found an Anglo-Saxon hoard?
Sorry, you don't own it, but Her Majesty may grant you a partial finders fee through one of her Coroners.
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Pleasuring her majesty sounds a bit wrong 😟 | |
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| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 10:22 - Sep 5 with 2978 views | GaryCooper |
| Interesting piece on why potentially unhinged Remainers are the real problem on 22:42 - Sep 4 by Herbivore |
Spiked? Lol. |
If I wished for a totally unbiased, no agenda news feed who would you suggest please?
It is becoming increasingly difficult. |  | | |
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