| Got to be Leach in next surely 16:31 - Sep 8 with 1737 views | Ftnfwest |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:39 - Sep 8 with 1480 views | The_Romford_Blue |
I’d have him in next too.
I actually fancy us to do this if we can let these two bat for another 45 minutes til 5:15 - 5:30 ish [Post edited 8 Sep 2019 16:39]
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:42 - Sep 8 with 1471 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:39 - Sep 8 by The_Romford_Blue |
I’d have him in next too.
I actually fancy us to do this if we can let these two bat for another 45 minutes til 5:15 - 5:30 ish [Post edited 8 Sep 2019 16:39]
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I fancied us to win it with Butler cutting loose and getting 200 at a run a ball!
Seriously, though, the Aussies are beginning to tire. We need to see off the second new ball but, if these two could do so, we have some chance of scraping a draw.
How we can possibly beat them in the final test is a bigger problem. |  |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:46 - Sep 8 with 1461 views | Ftnfwest |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:39 - Sep 8 by The_Romford_Blue |
I’d have him in next too.
I actually fancy us to do this if we can let these two bat for another 45 minutes til 5:15 - 5:30 ish [Post edited 8 Sep 2019 16:39]
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Australia must have appealed about 50 times today | | | |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:51 - Sep 8 with 1452 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:42 - Sep 8 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I fancied us to win it with Butler cutting loose and getting 200 at a run a ball!
Seriously, though, the Aussies are beginning to tire. We need to see off the second new ball but, if these two could do so, we have some chance of scraping a draw.
How we can possibly beat them in the final test is a bigger problem. |
Butler out
Bollox | |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:52 - Sep 8 with 1446 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:46 - Sep 8 by Ftnfwest |
Australia must have appealed about 50 times today |
That is part of the problem with the umpiring. Ask enough ridiculous decisions, eventually one or two will be given. Ask enough ridiculous decisions, some good calls will be seen to be among the ridiculous ones.
Butler out means our hopes are down to wishing for a sudden downpour. | |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:53 - Sep 8 with 1440 views | Ftnfwest |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:52 - Sep 8 by Nthsuffolkblue |
That is part of the problem with the umpiring. Ask enough ridiculous decisions, eventually one or two will be given. Ask enough ridiculous decisions, some good calls will be seen to be among the ridiculous ones.
Butler out means our hopes are down to wishing for a sudden downpour. |
They haven’t checked no ball, it looked v close | | | |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:55 - Sep 8 with 1430 views | Ftnfwest |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:51 - Sep 8 by The_Romford_Blue |
Butler out
Bollox |
The ball they had before would never have moved like that, but there you go | | | |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:58 - Sep 8 with 1424 views | Ace_High1 |
So frustrating, every time you get your hopes up, we lose a wicket.
Archer now gone! |  | | |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:59 - Sep 8 with 1415 views | Ftnfwest |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:58 - Sep 8 by Ace_High1 |
So frustrating, every time you get your hopes up, we lose a wicket.
Archer now gone! |
He should have been batting at 11, can play a few shots but that’s not what’s required at the moment | | | |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 17:00 - Sep 8 with 1414 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:58 - Sep 8 by Ace_High1 |
So frustrating, every time you get your hopes up, we lose a wicket.
Archer now gone! |
I thought he should have reviewed. Looked plumb but did turn a lot and we have 2 reviews left don't we so would only use one up. | |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 17:01 - Sep 8 with 1411 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 17:00 - Sep 8 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I thought he should have reviewed. Looked plumb but did turn a lot and we have 2 reviews left don't we so would only use one up. |
Really? Looked absolutely plum! | |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 17:03 - Sep 8 with 1407 views | Reuser_is_God |
We are sh1t |  |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 17:05 - Sep 8 with 1400 views | Ace_High1 |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 16:59 - Sep 8 by Ftnfwest |
He should have been batting at 11, can play a few shots but that’s not what’s required at the moment |
Agreed, Leach should have been before him.
Still so long to go. | | | |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 17:09 - Sep 8 with 1389 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 17:01 - Sep 8 by The_Romford_Blue |
Really? Looked absolutely plum! |
It was but ball tracker had it as umpire's call on the impact. I thought it turned so much that it might have done too much but he was so far back in the crease it hadn't.
My point was more that with 2 wickets left it is unlikely we would need to review both of them and so worth a try. I also thought we were 9 down so would have been only a need for 1 more!
EDIT: As I said, it did look plumb but it would have been a review borne of desperation but that is where we are right now! [Post edited 8 Sep 2019 17:10]
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 17:39 - Sep 8 with 1350 views | Guthrum |
Given the way Overton and Leach are facing this new ball, I really do wonder if one of them ought to be partnering Burns (altho Denley's not done too badly in the 2nd innings). |  |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:06 - Sep 8 with 1303 views | gainsboroughblue |
Leach gone. One to get.
Where is that Manchester rain when you need it? |  |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:13 - Sep 8 with 1289 views | Steve_M |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:06 - Sep 8 by gainsboroughblue |
Leach gone. One to get.
Where is that Manchester rain when you need it? |
Labauschagne looked more threatening in that over even before the wicket.
A bit too much still to do but this one was lost on Day 1. Nice to be competitive today though, be nice to still draw the series. |  |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:17 - Sep 8 with 1283 views | Guthrum |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:06 - Sep 8 by gainsboroughblue |
Leach gone. One to get.
Where is that Manchester rain when you need it? |
Overton LBW. Gone.
Valiant resistance, but too steep a hill to climb in the end. | |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:19 - Sep 8 with 1272 views | Guthrum |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:13 - Sep 8 by Steve_M |
Labauschagne looked more threatening in that over even before the wicket.
A bit too much still to do but this one was lost on Day 1. Nice to be competitive today though, be nice to still draw the series. |
I can't help feeling the series was lost when Jason Roy was selected as an opener and retained in the team.
The playing and loss of Anderson in the first Test was almost as decisive. | |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:22 - Sep 8 with 1267 views | The_Romford_Blue |
At the end of the day, Australia have deserved to win this match. They’ve deserved to win the series tbh and I expect them to beat us in the last test.
We have no way of getting Smith out. And Anderson being injured is a big loss. Root hasn’t looked the same player since being given the captaincy and we still look fragile early when a couple of wickets fall. | |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:30 - Sep 8 with 1245 views | Ftnfwest |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:22 - Sep 8 by The_Romford_Blue |
At the end of the day, Australia have deserved to win this match. They’ve deserved to win the series tbh and I expect them to beat us in the last test.
We have no way of getting Smith out. And Anderson being injured is a big loss. Root hasn’t looked the same player since being given the captaincy and we still look fragile early when a couple of wickets fall. |
As people have been saying none of the problems that were there beforehand, particularly with the batting, have been addressed at all. Notable also that most of the better performers so far, Burns, Broad - didn’t play in the World Cup. Even Jofra missed the first test and therefore had a bit of respite. I discount Stokes because he’s superhuman anyway, although even with him it’s been restricted to that one great innings, bowled well at times as well tbf | | | |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:31 - Sep 8 with 1237 views | Guthrum |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:22 - Sep 8 by The_Romford_Blue |
At the end of the day, Australia have deserved to win this match. They’ve deserved to win the series tbh and I expect them to beat us in the last test.
We have no way of getting Smith out. And Anderson being injured is a big loss. Root hasn’t looked the same player since being given the captaincy and we still look fragile early when a couple of wickets fall. |
As a friend of mine put it last night, Smith is better than England, who are better than Australia. | |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 20:56 - Sep 8 with 1172 views | Steve_M |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 18:30 - Sep 8 by Ftnfwest |
As people have been saying none of the problems that were there beforehand, particularly with the batting, have been addressed at all. Notable also that most of the better performers so far, Burns, Broad - didn’t play in the World Cup. Even Jofra missed the first test and therefore had a bit of respite. I discount Stokes because he’s superhuman anyway, although even with him it’s been restricted to that one great innings, bowled well at times as well tbf |
True, and it's been seven years trying to replace Strauss as an opener.
I think your second point goes for much of the Australian team as well, Smith another obvious exception. It's been a competitive series bit far from a classic, too few players can bat properly for that. | |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 21:15 - Sep 8 with 1143 views | bournemouthblue |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 20:56 - Sep 8 by Steve_M |
True, and it's been seven years trying to replace Strauss as an opener.
I think your second point goes for much of the Australian team as well, Smith another obvious exception. It's been a competitive series bit far from a classic, too few players can bat properly for that. |
The Aussie attack is more experienced than ours and has been together longer. They have a better bowling attack than us, along with Smith being a massive difference with the batting
It's easy to forget Leach and Archer are new to test Cricket. Why we brought Overton into this test is another puzzler you have to say.
Fundamentally, we can't bat and that is a real problem. It has been an issue for a while too.
Are there any decent players coming through, I know he's not necessarily being talked about in the red ball game but Banton at Somerset looks like a prospect. |  |
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| Got to be Leach in next surely on 21:47 - Sep 8 with 1119 views | Ftnfwest |
| Got to be Leach in next surely on 20:56 - Sep 8 by Steve_M |
True, and it's been seven years trying to replace Strauss as an opener.
I think your second point goes for much of the Australian team as well, Smith another obvious exception. It's been a competitive series bit far from a classic, too few players can bat properly for that. |
Probably the difference being that Australia have rotated their quicks very well. Cummins is the only one to have played both World Cup and all ashes tests. But they also rotated them within the game today very well and as I mentioned before Lyon might not be bowling that well, but he can always hold an end. | | | |
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